NEW BOND POLLS 2021: Every Bond actor's 1st Bond film!

edited August 10 in Actors Posts: 11,119
The game is quite simple, but also puts some serious critical judgment on all 6 Bond actors and their first Bond films. We do that in two stages:

A) We are going to rank all six Bond actor's acting skills in their first Bond film outing
For that you can give points:
--> 01 POINT for the Bond actor that should be 6th in your TOP 6
--> 02 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 5th in your TOP 6
--> 03 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 4th in your TOP 6
--> 04 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 3rd in your TOP 6
--> 06 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be the runner-up in your TOP 6
--> 08 POINTS for the Bond actor that should top your TOP 6

B) This stage is all about ranking the actual film and not the outing of the Bond actor in his 1st film. It is of my opinion that a Bond actor carries the film for an important part. But do not forget plot, screenplay, originality, theme, other characters, music, production design. Things like storyline and plot can make or break a film. And because of that, in the long end, a film can get that everlasting 'evergreen status'-status or 'quality classic'. Not just because of the Bond actor, but also because of all other people involved in it.

That's why I ask you to rate the actual film in which the Bond actor starred for the first time. For this I will double the amount of points, so you can rank the actual films in this way:
--> 02 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 6th in your TOP 6
--> 04 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 5th in your TOP 6
--> 06 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 4th in your TOP 6
--> 08 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 3rd in your TOP 6
--> 12 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be the runner-up in your TOP 6
--> 16 POINTS for the Bond actor that should top your TOP 6

C) The final stage is about ranking the actual 'total package' of 'Best Bond actor' combined with 'The Best Bond Film'. In the end I will add up the points in the following way. Watch my personal example in the following post:
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  • edited July 2013 Posts: 11,119
    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Actor' in his first Bond outing:
    08 POINTS --> Sean Connery in....
    06 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in....
    04 POINTS --> George Lazenby in....
    03 POINTS --> Roger Moore in....
    02 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in....
    01 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in....

    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Film' in which the Bond actor appeared for the first time:
    16 POINTS --> ....'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' (1969)
    12 POINTS --> ....'Casino Royale' (2006)
    08 POINTS --> ....'Doctor No' (1962)
    06 POINTS --> ....'The Living Daylights' (1987)
    04 POINTS --> ....'Live And Let Die' (1973)
    02 POINTS --> ....'GoldenEye' (1995)

    TOP 6 ranking totals (I will sum them up in an Excel sheet myself, just in case you find it a bit too much work):
    20 POINTS --> The total package of George Lazenby in 'OHMSS'
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    18 POINTS --> The total package of Daniel Craig in 'CR'
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    16 POINTS --> The total package of Sean Connery in 'DN'
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    08 POINTS --> The total package of Timothy Dalton in 'TLD'
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    07 POINTS --> The total package of Roger Moore in 'LALD'
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    03 POINTS --> The total package of Pierce Brosnan in 'GE'
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    Now it's your turn. I know it's a bit of hefty jury work, but it'll perhaps give you some new insight in the actual Bond actor, how well they performed in their first Bond film and how much 'classic longevity' a Bond film apart from its actor (potentially) has :-).

    Good luck with both of your TOP 6-es. I will occassionally post the current standings :-).

    PS: The BD-covers are fan-art......but I just love them. I'm using them for my new collection of James Bond on BluRay I'm currently making.
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Searching for No Time to Die in the "Favourite Bond Film" section...
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    My TOP 6 for the Actors:
    08 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in...
    06 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in...
    04 POINTS --> George Lazenby in...
    03 POINTS --> Sean Connery in...
    02 POINTS --> Roger Moore in...
    01 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in....

    My TOP 6 for the Films:
    16 POINTS --> ...'The Living Daylights' (1987)
    12 POINTS --> ...'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' (1969)
    08 POINTS --> ...'Casino Royale' (2006)
    06 POINTS --> ...'GoldenEye' (1995)
    04 POINTS --> ...'Dr. No' (1962)
    02 POINTS --> ...'Live and Let Die' (1973)

    Total Points:
    24 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in 'The Living Daylights' (1987)
    16 POINTS --> George Lazenby in 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service' (1969)
    14 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in 'Casino Royale' (2006)
    7 POINTS --> Sean Connery in 'Dr. No' (1962)
    7 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in 'GoldenEye' (1995)
    4 POINTS --> Roger Moore in 'Live and Let Die' (1973)
  • edited July 2013 Posts: 11,119
    So the Total points so far, after 3 voters, are:

    56 POINTS --> The total package of Daniel Craig in 'CR'
    49 POINTS --> The total package of George Lazenby in 'OHMSS'
    44 POINTS --> The total package of Timothy Dalton in 'TLD'
    31 POINTS --> The total package of Sean Connery in 'DN'
    21 POINTS --> The total package of Pierce Brosnan in 'GE'
    15 POINTS --> The total package of Roger Moore in 'LALD'
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 11,516
    Top 6 - Actor's skills in their debut:
    08 points - Daniel Craig
    06 points - Timothy Dalton
    04 points - Sean Connery
    03 points - Pierce Brosnan
    02 points - Roger Moore
    01 points - George Lazenby

    Top 6 - Film quality:
    16 points - CR
    12 points - OHMSS
    08 points - GE
    06 points - TLD
    04 points - DN
    02 points - LALD

    Total points:
    24 points - Daniel Craig/CR
    13 points - George Lazenby/OHMSS
    12 points - Timothy Dalton/TLD
    11 points - Pierce Brosnan/GE
    8 points - Sean Connery/DN
    4 points - Roger Moore/LALD
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,207
    Well, I'm a sucker for rankings so I'll play along...

    Performances
    1) Craig - 8 points
    2) Connery - 6 points
    3) Moore - 4 points
    4) Dalton - 3 points
    5) Brosnan - 2 points
    6) Lazenby - 1 point


    Films
    1) CR - 16 points
    2) OHMSS - 12 points
    3) GE - 8 points
    4) LALD - 6 points
    5) TLD - 4 points
    6) DN - 2 points


    Total Points
    1) Craig/CR - 24 points
    2) Lazenby/OHMSS - 13 points
    3) Moore/LALD - 10 points
    3) Brosnan/GE - 10 points
    5) Connery/DN - 8 points
    6) Dalton/TLD - 7 points
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe Still waiting for the Jena Malone Batwoman movie that's never going to be made.Moderator
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    Actors:
    1) Timothy Dalton - 8 pts
    2) Sean Connery - 6 pts
    3) George Lazenby - 4 pts
    4) Pierce Prosnan - 3 pts
    5) Roger Moore - 2 pts
    6) Daniel Craig - 1 pt

    Films:
    1) The Living Daylights - 16 pts
    2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 12 pts
    3) Dr No - 8 pts
    4) Live And Let Die - 6 pts
    5) GoldenEye - 4 pts
    6) Casino Royale - 2pts

    Total:
    1) Timothy Dalton - 24 pts
    2) George Lazenby - 16 pts
    3) Sean Connery - 14 pts
    4) Roger Moore - 8 pts
    5) Pierce Brosnan - 7 Pts
    6) Daniel Craig - 3 pts
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited July 2013 Posts: 13,305
    Performances

    1) Dalton - 8 points
    2) Connery - 6 points
    3) Craig - 4 points
    4) Moore - 3 points
    5) Brosnan - 2 points
    6) Lazenby - 1 point

    Films

    1) OHMSS - 16 points
    2) DN - 12 points
    3) TLD - 8 points
    4) LALD - 6 points
    5) GE - 4 points
    6) CR - 2 points

    Total Points

    1) Connery/DN - 18 points
    2) Lazenby/OHMSS - 17 points
    3) Dalton/TLD - 16 points
    4) Moore/LALD - 9 points
    5) Craig/CR - 6 points
    6) Brosnan/GE - 6 points
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 3,764
    Actors:
    1) Roger Moore - 8 pts
    2) Pierce Brosnan - 6 pts
    3) Sean Connery - 4 pts
    4) Timothy Dalton - 3 pts
    5) Daniel Craig - 2 pts
    6) George Lazenby - 1 pt

    Films:
    1) Goldeneye - 16 pts
    2) On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 12 pts
    3) Live And Let Die - 8 pts
    4) The Living Daylights - 6 pts
    5) Dr No - 4 pts
    6) Casino Royale - 2pts

    Total:
    1) Pierce Brosnan - 22 pts (6+16)
    2) Roger Moore - 16 pts (8+8)
    3) George Lazenby - 12 pts (1+12)
    5) Timothy Dalton - 9 pts (3+6)
    5) Sean Connery - 8 pts (4+4)
    6) Daniel Craig - 4 pts (2+2)
  • edited July 2013 Posts: 1,580
    Actors:
    08 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton
    06 POINTS --> Sean Connery
    04 POINTS --> Daniel Craig
    03 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan
    02 POINTS --> Roger Moore
    01 POINTS --> George Lazenby

    Films:
    16 POINTS --> Dr. No
    12 POINTS --> The Living Daylights
    08 POINTS --> On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    06 POINTS --> Casino Royale
    04 POINTS --> GoldenEye
    02 POINTS --> Live and Let Die

    Total:
    22 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    20 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in The Living Daylights
    10 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
    09 POINTS --> George Lazenby in On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    07 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye
    04 POINTS --> Roger Moore in Live and Let Die
  • Posts: 5,767
    Actors:
    Dalton 8
    Craig 6
    Connery 4
    Moore 3
    Lazenby 2
    Brosnan 1

    Films: Tough call, 2nd to 5th I would rank more or less equal.
    OHMSS 16
    CR 12
    DN 8
    LALD 6
    TLD 4
    GE 2

    Total:
    OHMSS 18
    CR 18
    DN 12
    TLD 12
    LALD 9
    GE 3
    Wow, wouldn´t have thought GE gets so little points from me ;-).
  • Posts: 11,119
    So the Total points so far, after 9 voters, are:

    134 POINTS --> The total package of George Lazenby in 'OHMSS'
    132 POINTS --> The total package of Timothy Dalton in 'TLD'
    121 POINTS --> The total package of Daniel Craig in 'CR'
    113 POINTS --> The total package of Sean Connery in 'DN'
    076 POINTS --> The total package of Pierce Brosnan in 'GE'
    071 POINTS --> The total package of Roger Moore in 'LALD'
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,372
    Great idea for a thread @Gustav_Graves.

    This will take a bit of thinking of my part...

    :-)
  • Actors:

    Sean Connery 8
    Daniel Craig 6
    Timothy Dalton 4
    Pierce Brosnan 3
    Roger Moore 2
    George Lazenby 1

    Connery and Craig were nearly tied, but Connery invented the role, so he gets the nod.

    Movies:

    Casino Royale 16
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service 12
    GoldenEye 8
    Dr. No 6
    The Living Daylights 4
    Live and Let Die 2

    Casino Royale-Goldeneye are 3-5 on my list, and Dr. No comes in at 7. Hardly seems fair, but then that's life.

    Total Package:
    Daniel Craig (6) in Casino Royale (16) for 22
    Sean Connery (8) in Dr. No (6) for 14
    George Lazenby (1) in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (12) for 13
    Pierce Brosnan (3) in GoldenEye (8) for 11
    Timothy Dalton (4) in The Living Daylights (4) for 8
    Roger Moore (2) in Live and Let Die (2) for 4
  • Posts: 11,119
    I'm quite surprised that George Lazenby as an actor is still scoring that low. I think it's mainly because of the rather 'negative image' he has.

    Sean Connery had the big advantage that he was the first ever actor to play 007. But was he really that 'glorious' as an actor? Connery and Lazenby are actually quite similar, in that they both had rather 'different' jobs until they got their first major breakthrough: Modelling, bodybuilding, coffin builder....to name a few.

    And if I compare Dalton's first outing with Lazenby's first outing, then I am certain: Lazenby is the better one. It starts with Lazenby's fantastic fight scenes, differently edited compared to Connery's fight scenes. Actually, Lazenby set a little standard here that we only saw back when Jason Bourne and Daniel Craig as 007 came to the cinemas.

    The love/romantic scenes Lazenby did in 'OHMSS': Ab-so-lu-te-ly stunning. The wedding proposal scene, the actual wedding, Bond in shambles when Tracy got killed. It were pure acting highlights, that Moore, Dalton and Connery actually never had. Perhaps it's only matched by Craig's acting in 'CR' and 'SF'.

    Sorry, I just don't get Lazenby's low ratings as an actor. Considering where he comes from......I think he was a major talent. Hence the fact he was nominated in 1970 for a Golden Globe in the category 'Best Newcomer' for his role as 007. None of the other Bond actors managed to get such a nomination in their first outing as James Bond.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Also.......I remember back in 2012 I organized a Bond movie marathon. I was showing my friends the following films: 'From Russia With Love', 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service', 'For Your Eyes Only', 'The Living Daylights', 'The World Is Not Enough' and 'Casino Royale'.

    You know what my friend Rutger said afterwards something like that? "Sjee.....I didn't know James Bond was such an emotional wreck. I look a bit differently to the films now. Especially acting-wise..." :P
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2013 Posts: 3,764
    Lazenby get 1 point from me because he only play Bond once, but he is part of OHMSS and i liked him as Bond in that movie. If not then the movie never end as 6/23 and it not get 12 points from me. With Timothy Dalton - Daniel Craig who's Bond i like the moost from those 2 and then Dalton wins because of humor in LTK and how much he controbute to the whole movie.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded Riding a white swan to Matera
    edited July 2013 Posts: 12,158
    Actors:
    1) Sean Connery - 8 pts
    2) Daniel Caig - 6 pts
    3) Pierce Brosnan - 4 pts
    4) Timothy Dalton - 3 pts
    5) Roger Moore - 2 pts
    6) George Lazenby - 1 pt

    Films:
    1) Casino Royale - 16 pts
    2) Goldeneye - 12 pts
    3) The Living Daylights - 8 pts
    4) Dr No- 6 pts
    5) Live And Let Die - 4 pts
    6) OHMSS - 2 pts
  • Posts: 479
    It always surprises me how much people hate Roger Moore as Bond on this thread. I could have guessed, considering the Dalton/Craig bias that exists here that naturally the exact opposite of their performances, which are dark and serious, would be panned. Oh well, I guess I'll have to be one of the lone people who actually respects Moore on this thread.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 11,516
    Sammm04 wrote:
    It always surprises me how much people hate Roger Moore as Bond on this thread. I could have guessed, considering the Dalton/Craig bias that exists here that naturally the exact opposite of their performances, which are dark and serious, would be panned.
    From what I can tell, there's only a small minority on this forum that 'hate' or 'disrespect' Moore as Bond. Many of us just think his portrayal is less Flemingesque than some of the other actors.
    Sammm04 wrote:
    Oh well, I guess I'll have to be one of the lone people who actually respects Moore on this thread.
    So, in order to respect Moore, I have to make him my favourite Bond?
  • Posts: 11,119
    M_Balje wrote:
    Lazenby get 1 point from me because he only play Bond once, but he is part of OHMSS and i liked him as Bond in that movie. If not then the movie never end as 6/23 and it not get 12 points from me. With Timothy Dalton - Daniel Craig who's Bond i like the moost from those 2 and then Dalton wins because of humor in LTK and how much he controbute to the whole movie.

    Forget all other Bond films the other Bond actors did! It's all about judging that single acting experience from that Bond actor in his first Bond film. Just think as only these Bond films exist: DN, OHMSS, LALD, TLD, GE and CR.
  • edited July 2013 Posts: 11,119
    QBranch wrote:
    Sammm04 wrote:
    It always surprises me how much people hate Roger Moore as Bond on this thread. I could have guessed, considering the Dalton/Craig bias that exists here that naturally the exact opposite of their performances, which are dark and serious, would be panned.
    From what I can tell, there's only a small minority on this forum that 'hate' or 'disrespect' Moore as Bond. Many of us just think his portrayal is less Flemingesque than some of the other actors.
    Sammm04 wrote:
    Oh well, I guess I'll have to be one of the lone people who actually respects Moore on this thread.
    So, in order to respect Moore, I have to make him my favourite Bond?

    Off course not. It's your opinion mister. And only yours ;-). But looking at the results thus far, it is George Lazenby who still doesn't get the respect for his 1st Bond outing, compared to the other 5 actors and their 1st Bond outings. It really strikes me :-).

    Results so far after 11 voters:
    First Bond acting experience from these actors:
    61 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton
    59 POINTS --> Sean Connery
    57 POINTS --> Daniel Craig
    33 POINTS --> Roger Moore
    29 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan
    25 POINTS --> George Lazenby

    Rating of the actual film in which the Bond actor starred for his first time:
    130 POINTS --> 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    108 POINTS --> 'Casino Royale'
    090 POINTS --> 'The Living Daylights'
    078 POINTS --> 'Doctor No'
    074 POINTS --> 'GoldenEye'
    048 POINTS --> 'Live And Let Die'

    Points Total Package:
    165 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in 'Casino Royale'
    154 POINTS --> George Lazenby in 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    151 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in 'The Living Daylights'
    141 POINTS --> Sean Connery in 'Doctor No'
    103 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in 'GoldenEye'
    081 POINTS --> Roger Moore in 'Live And Let Die'
  • edited July 2013 Posts: 3,494
    Lazenby doesn't deserve respect for his first outing, it's clear that he's awful and where he belongs, in the cellar with Brozzer. The film and those around him are the only real reason he's doing so well here so please @GustavGraves, let's not spin this into some sort of statement of reality.

    Actors:
    1) Sean Connery - 8 pts
    2) Timothy Dalton - 6 pts
    3) Daniel Craig - 4 pts
    4) Roger Moore - 3 pts
    5) Pierce Brosnan - 2 pts
    6) George Lazenby - 1 pt

    Films:
    1) Casino Royale - 16 pts
    2) The Living Daylights - 12 pts
    3) OHMSS- 8 pts
    4) Dr.No- 6 pts
    5) Live And Let Die - 4 pts
    6) GoldenEye - 2 pts

    TOTALS-

    20 POINTS--> Daniel Craig in "Casino Royale" (2006)
    18 POINTS--> Timothy Dalton in "The Living Daylights" (1987)
    14 POINTS--> Sean Connery in "Dr. No" (1962)
    09 POINTS--> George Lazenby in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (1969)
    07 POINTS--> Roger Moore in "Live And Let Die" (1973)
    04 POINTS--> Pierce Brosnan in "GoldenEye" (1995)

    UPDATED-

    185 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in 'Casino Royale'
    169 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in 'The Living Daylights'
    163 POINTS --> George Lazenby in 'On Her Majesty's Secret Service'
    154 POINTS --> Sean Connery in 'Doctor No'
    107 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in 'GoldenEye'
    089 POINTS --> Roger Moore in 'Live And Let Die'

    I predict Connery and DN will shortly take the #3 position :)
  • edited July 2013 Posts: 5,767
    I'm quite surprised that George Lazenby as an actor is still scoring that low.
    Sammm04 wrote:
    It always surprises me how much people hate Roger Moore as Bond on this thread.
    We surely can´t speak of hate or disrespect in a poll where ranks have to be chosen? If there´s no possibility of a draw, someone has to be last, right? That doesn´t say anything about wether that one is hated or simply the others even more valued, perhaps only a mere bit.
    QBranch wrote:
    Sammm04 wrote:
    It always surprises me how much people hate Roger Moore as Bond on this thread. I could have guessed, considering the Dalton/Craig bias that exists here that naturally the exact opposite of their performances, which are dark and serious, would be panned.
    From what I can tell, there's only a small minority on this forum that 'hate' or 'disrespect' Moore as Bond. Many of us just think his portrayal is less Flemingesque than some of the other actors.
    That is of course wild guessing. I for one don´t think Connery is more Fleming-esque than Moore, nor do I think being Fleming-esque is a criterion for me at all.

  • Posts: 2
    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Actor' in his first Bond outing:
    08 POINTS --> Sean Connery
    06 POINTS --> Daniel Craig
    04 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in....
    03 POINTS --> Roger Moore in....
    02 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in....
    01 POINTS --> George Lazenby in....

    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Film' in which the Bond actor appeared for the first time:
    16 POINTS --> ....Casino Royale
    12 POINTS --> ....Skyfall
    08 POINTS --> ....Dr. No
    06 POINTS --> ....The World is not enough
    04 POINTS --> ....On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    02 POINTS --> ....Goldfinger
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,372
    Actors -

    6th – Roger Moore – 1pt

    Poor old Sir, someone has to be last, and alas it's him. Unflappable and suave as ever, I think Moore needed a director like Lewis Gilbert to really let his put his own stamp, and personality, on the character. One can feel Moore feeling his way into the character, but his performance improves from here on in.

    5th – Pierce Brosnan – 2pts

    Despite his nerves, Brosnan came up with the ideal blend of humour and steel, with a little bit of dramatic stuff to keep things interesting. The script helps a lot with this; Brosnan would never get a script as strong as this in his subsequent adventures.

    4th – George Lazenby – 3pts

    At times Lazenby was simply unbelievable, and at other times, he was incredibly wooden. (Confronting Blofeld and M in the case of the former, and for the latter, when Bond is first introduced to Draco).

    I felt that Lazenby really grew in stature as the film went on, and by the end of it, you really felt, and believed, in this Bond. The film, and the storyline, go in a big way to achieve that, but Lazenby played an important part too.

    He was Fleming's every-man; he made me care about his Bond. And for a rookie actor, never mind an established actor, steeping into Connery's shoes, was like an inexperienced musician steeping into Lennon's shoes in the Beatles.

    3rd – Sean Connery – 4pts

    Cool, calm, authoritative, loaded with bags of machismo and great grace and poise, sophisticated etc... And with a real sense of purpose and inner calm, that typifies the Bond of the book and Connery's Bond, this is a very good début.

    It's hard not to put Connery on-top of any list in the world of Bond, but his being too harsh (think of the superintendent of Kingston for example), keeps him from reaching my No 1 spot.

    2nd – Timothy Dalton – 6pts

    Very Fleming-esque. The only caveat I have about Dalton's Bond, is his brooding and cynicism; true they are key components to Fleming's Bond, but not too this extent. Still, this is very fine début, and it is to Dalton's supreme credit that I find relatively small details to find fault about – no other actor has done that. Superb Mr Dalton, superb!

    1st – Daniel Craig – 8pts

    Dark and dangerous Craig has made 007 relevant again. I love seeing him evolve from a proto Bond into the fully formed agent that we know and love. Kudos to Craig's physicality, the best since Connery and Lazenby.


    Films

    6th - Live and Let Die (19/23) – 2pts

    Very understated entrance for Roger Moore. Very good cast, especially the heavies, ( “You’re entering Harlem, baby!”), ingenious plot; cunning in its simplicity, and some delicious lines.

    5th – GoldenEye (15/23) - 4pts

    A greatest hits Bond film that launched our venerable hero into the nineties. There really is a lot to enjoy with this one, namely a superb primary cast and a very strong script.

    Indeed this script helps anchor GoldenEye’s more fantastical elements, allowing for some rare moments of introspection. The script also cleverly asks Bond to validate himself in the post cold war era, something he achieves with aplomb.

    There are a few quibbles; some of the action scenes need trimming, while Boris gets far too much screen-time, especially for such an annoying and superfluous character.

    4th – Dr. No (9/23) - 6pts

    Simply classic, iconic Bond. Young used to say, about DN success, that it was all “Connery, Connery, and Connery”. I think he’s being too modest; Young, and indeed, Hunt and Adam all contributed massively to the earlier Bond movies. Although Connery is immense as James Bond, 007, naturally.

    3rd – The Living Daylights (6/23) – 8pts

    This ranks as one of the very best Bond films. Glen’s direction is assured while it also features probably the best cinematography of his tenure. The screenplay is as intelligent and complex as any in the series. Barry’s score serves as a fitting swansong to this great man. The film is filled with a real sense of Fleming, yet all the cinematic hallmarks are here, and executed brilliantly and originally. And I haven’t even mentioned Tim Dalton, who’s the closest we ever got to Fleming’s 007.

    2nd – Casino Royale (3/23) - 12pts

    The most visceral performance ever to be seen in a James Bond movie, Craig makes the role of 007 dangerous, sexy and charismatic, and breaths new life into the character, which has been in the public consciousness for nearly 50 years.

    What else is there to enjoy about CR, well; an excellent cast, superb main titles, and the accompanying main title theme, sumptuous cinematography and great music, plus Martin Campbell's direction is brisk, bruising and very effective. And it's from a great adaptation from a great book.

    The only thing I can reproach this film with, is the scene where Bond breaks into M's apartment. Fleming's 007 would never have been so disrespectful, and as Bond is a military man, he wouldn't have lasted long in the military.

    1st – On Her Majesty's Secret Service (2/23)

    Other than Lazenby, everyone is on form here; from John Barry to Diana Rigg, this is a sublime, emotional experience.


    Total -

    6th Roger Moore – 3pts
    5th Pierce Brosnan – 6pts
    4th Sean Connery – 10pts
    3rd Timothy Dalton – 14pts
    2nd George Lazenby – 19pts
    1st – Daniel Craig – 20pts

    Very surprising, I must say!

  • Posts: 11,119
    BondOO7 wrote:
    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Actor' in his first Bond outing:
    08 POINTS --> Sean Connery
    06 POINTS --> Daniel Craig
    04 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in....
    03 POINTS --> Roger Moore in....
    02 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in....
    01 POINTS --> George Lazenby in....

    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Film' in which the Bond actor appeared for the first time:
    16 POINTS --> ....Casino Royale
    12 POINTS --> ....Skyfall
    08 POINTS --> ....Dr. No
    06 POINTS --> ....The World is not enough
    04 POINTS --> ....On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    02 POINTS --> ....Goldfinger

    Sorry, can you please correct your list of films? It is only possible to vote for the Bond film the specific Bond actor appeared in first.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Actors:
    1) Dalton - 8 pts
    2) Brosnan - 6 pts
    3) Connery - 4 pts
    4) Craig - 3 pts
    5) Moore - 2 pts
    6) Lazenby - 1 pt

    Films:
    1) TLD - 16 pts
    2) GE - 12 pts
    3) DN- 8 pts
    4) LALD- 6 pts
    5) CR - 4 pts
    6) OHMSS - 2 pts

    TOTALS-

    24 POINTS--> Dalton & TLD
    18 POINTS--> Brosnan & GE
    12 POINTS--> Connery & DN
    08 POINTS--> Moore & LALD
    07 POINTS--> Craig & CR
    03 POINTS--> Lazenby & OHMSS
  • RecipeRecipe Banned
    Posts: 56
    The game is quite simple, but also puts some serious critical judgment on all 6 Bond actors and their first Bond films. We do that in two stages:

    A) We are going to rank all six Bond actor's acting skills in their first Bond film outing
    For that you can give points:
    --> 01 POINT for the Bond actor that should be 6th in your TOP 6
    --> 02 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 5th in your TOP 6
    --> 03 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 4th in your TOP 6
    --> 04 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 3rd in your TOP 6
    --> 06 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be the runner-up in your TOP 6
    --> 08 POINTS for the Bond actor that should top your TOP 6

    B) This stage is all about ranking the actual film and not the outing of the Bond actor in his 1st film. It is of my opinion that a Bond actor carries the film for an important part. But do not forget plot, screenplay, originality, theme, other characters, music, production design. Things like storyline and plot can make or break a film. And because of that, in the long end, a film can get that everlasting 'evergreen status'-status or 'quality classic'. Not just because of the Bond actor, but also because of all other people involved in it.

    That's why I ask you to rate the actual film in which the Bond actor starred for the first time. For this I will double the amount of points, so you can rank the actual films in this way:
    --> 02 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 6th in your TOP 6
    --> 04 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 5th in your TOP 6
    --> 06 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 4th in your TOP 6
    --> 08 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be 3rd in your TOP 6
    --> 12 POINTS for the Bond actor that should be the runner-up in your TOP 6
    --> 16 POINTS for the Bond actor that should top your TOP 6

    C) The final stage is about ranking the actual 'total package' of 'Best Bond actor' combined with 'The Best Bond Film'. In the end I will add up the points in the following way. Watch my personal example in the following post:

    Wow well. I don't understand a word of this frankly mate. You made it BY FAR too complicated for a lot of us younger 007 fans to follow. But anyway...

    1) Connerys performance in Dr No: 10/10 (young and vital)
    Dr No itself as a film: 4/10 (really quite slow and boring)

    2) Lazenbies performances in OHMSS: 5/10 (young but not experienced there)
    OHMSS itself as a film: 10/10 (a real classic with some chick European locations like FYEO)

    3) Roger Moore's performance in LALD: 7/10 (a very slick trenchcoat/gloves outfit in NYC in the opening scenes... I want that outfit myself now)
    LALD itself as the film: 7/10 (a good boat chase or two)

    4) Dalton as performance in TLD: 8/10 (I have difficulty now making out a lot of what he's saying. Like when he says "Barracks hidden back there..." after Saunders is iced by Necros... LOL I mean what is he saying?)
    TLD itself as a film: 7/10 (good action but your typical John Glen snoozer. Fell asleep while watching it on the couch last month. Woke up and had a shower, then tried again to watch it and fall asleep again this time on the couch!)

    5) Pierce's performance as 007 in GE: 10/10 (I love watching the way he moves. It's like poetry. When he moves down the staircase in the PTS I get chills up and down my spine.)
    GE as a film: 10/10 (what more can you say? Get out the recipe book (that's where my name comes from) and cook up a meal every time I put on the Blu Ray. It calls for a celebration every time. Here's where I admit I like cooking. :)

    6) Craig's performance in CR: 10/10 (what more can I say? Wounded, vunerable)
    CR as a film: 3/10 (I'm not a fan of how cheap it looks. The Miami Skywalk annex scene looks like a Taken film, made in France on the cheap frankly.)

    OK I'll leave you to do the math Gustav_Graves that's what your so good at. But realistically here all that matters if Bond fan's opinions, not some cooked up number system.
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    I think it's not that complicated ;-). Just first rank the acting performances of the actors in their first Bond films in TOP 6 order.

    Secondly rank the actual films in all its aspects in TOP 6 order.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Please keep voting lads and gals ;-).
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