NEW BOND POLLS 2021: Every Bond actor's 1st Bond film!

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  • Posts: 11,119
    Keep on voting....as there's such a lack of Bond 24 news (:|
  • 1) Connery - 8pts
    2) Craig - 6pts
    3) Lazenby - 4pts
    4) Moore - 3pts
    5) Dalton - 2pts
    6) Brosnan - 1pt

    1) CR - 8pts
    2) OHMSS - 6pts
    3) DN - 4pts
    4) L&LD - 3pts
    5) GE - 2pts
    6) LD - 1pt
  • Keep voting guys :-)
  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
    Posts: 523
    1) Sean Connery
    2) Pierce Brosnan
    3) Timothy Dalton
    4) Daniel Craig
    5) Roger Moore
    6) George Lazenby

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    1) GoldenEye
    2) Dr No
    3) TLD
    4) LALD
    5) CR
    6) OHMSS
  • 1) Sean Connery
    2) Pierce Brosnan
    3) Timothy Dalton
    4) Daniel Craig
    5) Roger Moore
    6) George Lazenby

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    1) GoldenEye
    2) Dr No
    3) TLD
    4) LALD
    5) CR
    6) OHMSS

    Wow, what did you do with CR and OHMSS? Killed them with a poisoned pen?? :-O
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,622
    here are my votes

    First category
    Sean Connery in DN ......................8p
    George Lazenby in OHMSS..............6
    Roger Moore in LALD.......................4
    Tim Dalton in TLD.............................3
    Pierce Brosnan in GE..........................2
    blue snuggers in CR............................1


    2nd Category...film in totality
    1. DN.....................16p
    2. OHMSS................12 p
    3. LALD....................8
    4. GE........................6
    5. TLD.......................4
    6. CR.........................2

    Combined totals

    DN...................24 (maximum)
    OHMSS.............18
    LALD................12
    GE......................8
    TLD....................7
    CR......................3 (minimum)

  • Posts: 7,500
    I initially tried, but gave up giving a balanced vote. Its just to hard to rank this. I love both Graigs, Connery's and Dalton's premiere performances so much in their own way its practically impossible to rank them apart. And its the same with the films in total. Im usually a ranker by heart, but here it just seems inappropriate and a little uncomfortable in a way...
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 4,622
    ;) I have no such compunctions. The Connery and Lazenby efforts tower above everything else.
    The Rog efforts are solid middle ground, challenged somewhat by the Broz and Dalts contributions occasionally. But LALD IMO is an excellent Bond film- Rog's best work, and faces no challenge at all from any of the Dalts or Broz work. Subsequent Rog efforts though, not so much.

    The angsty Craig portrayal and general re-boot effort settles easily well below everything else.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited November 2014 Posts: 45,489
    First category
    Sean Connery in DN ......................8p
    Daniel Craig in CR..............6p
    George Lazenby in OHMSS.......................4p
    Tim Dalton in TLD.............................3p
    Roger Moore in LALD..........................2p
    Pierce Brosnan in GE............................1p


    2nd Category...film in totality
    1. CR.....................16p
    2. OHMSS................12 p
    3. DN....................8p
    4. TLD........................6p
    5. LALD.......................4p
    6. GE.........................2p

    Combined totals

    DN...................16
    OHMSS.............16
    LALD................6
    TLD......................9
    GE....................3
    CR......................22



  • An update, as of 15.11.2014 :-):

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    I still find it remarkable that George Lazenby is on last place in his first Bond outing. I think it's not really fair, considering he did only one Bond film and he got a lot of blaim for following Connery's footsteps.

    I think, if one is truly neutral, and puts aside all the gossip that went going on in 1969/1970, Lazenby now should really have a higher ranking.
  • Anyone curious?
  • Keep voting anyway :-). I hope you like the results so far. Any "weird" outcomes?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    An update, as of 15.11.2014 :-):

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    I still find it remarkable that George Lazenby is on last place in his first Bond outing. I think it's not really fair, considering he did only one Bond film and he got a lot of blaim for following Connery's footsteps.

    I think, if one is truly neutral, and puts aside all the gossip that went going on in 1969/1970, Lazenby now should really have a higher ranking.

    Even without the gossip and the blame, the feeling remains that Lazenby's performance just wasn't very good aside from the fighting and the other physical aspects. It could be argued that a lot of the dubbing etc took away from his acting, but the fact remains that it's there. Just the way the game goes.
  • An update, as of 15.11.2014 :-):

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    I still find it remarkable that George Lazenby is on last place in his first Bond outing. I think it's not really fair, considering he did only one Bond film and he got a lot of blaim for following Connery's footsteps.

    I think, if one is truly neutral, and puts aside all the gossip that went going on in 1969/1970, Lazenby now should really have a higher ranking.

    Even without the gossip and the blame, the feeling remains that Lazenby's performance just wasn't very good aside from the fighting and the other physical aspects. It could be argued that a lot of the dubbing etc took away from his acting, but the fact remains that it's there. Just the way the game goes.

    Then I really think people, fans also, forget a few acting highlights of George Lazenby in OHMSS:
    01) The wedding proposal in the barn. Yes, obviously Rigg "helped" on set as being a more experienced actress, "facilitating" better acting from Lazenby. But really, when Bond says: "Tracy......an agent should not be concerned about anything but himself. I need to find something else to do. Will you......marry me?". I found that wunderful acting. You truly sensed Bond being in complete doubt about his life and work as an agent. For me it actually worked better than when Craig started to propose to Vesper.
    02) The moment when Tracy got killed. George delivered there. And although I think Craig did a great acting job shortly after Vesper was killed. The crying, the desperation was just a bit too much. The scene with Lazenby worked better, because it sticked to Fleming's material. It was kept simple and intimate.

    And there are more examples. George Lazenby playing baccarat in the Casino Palacio. Did he really fell short compared to other Bond actors when they did a casino scene? Or when Tracy and Bond meet each other in Bond's hotel room. "Le Blue...isn't that a bit heady for you?", when Bond observes Tracy on the outside bed.

    For me, Lazenby was at least way better in his first portrayal of Bond when compared to, let's say, Brosnan in GE and Moore in LALD. He HAD to act, given the circumstances of the more complex role Lazenby had to play, as Fleming made Bond in OHMSS a way more complex character. For me he is even more suave, frivolous than Timothy Dalton's first outing.

    No, Lazenby IMO solely scores bad, because others think he always scores bad. That influences our judgement a bit I think. Moreover, Lazenby truly is the only actor who got a Golden Globe nomination for his 1st Bond outing. Let's not forget that.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited November 2014 Posts: 5,080
    An update, as of 15.11.2014 :-):

    gPbRLv.jpg

    I still find it remarkable that George Lazenby is on last place in his first Bond outing. I think it's not really fair, considering he did only one Bond film and he got a lot of blaim for following Connery's footsteps.

    I think, if one is truly neutral, and puts aside all the gossip that went going on in 1969/1970, Lazenby now should really have a higher ranking.

    Even without the gossip and the blame, the feeling remains that Lazenby's performance just wasn't very good aside from the fighting and the other physical aspects. It could be argued that a lot of the dubbing etc took away from his acting, but the fact remains that it's there. Just the way the game goes.


    No, Lazenby IMO solely scores bad, because others think he always scores bad. That influences our judgement a bit I think. Moreover, Lazenby truly is the only actor who got a Golden Globe nomination for his 1st Bond outing. Let's not forget that.

    No, people give Lazenby low scores because they simply don't like his performance. I'm not one of those people who hate his performance (l adore it, in fact. IMO, the closest portrayal of Fleming's character), but I understand their dislike and criticisms of his performance- yes, even the "wooden performance" argument.

    The only reason I have not participated in this poll is because I'm finding it too difficult to rank them.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited November 2014 Posts: 17,691
    No, people give Lazenby low scores because they simply don't like his performance. I'm not one of those people who hate his performance (l adore it, in fact. IMO, the closest portrayal of Fleming's character)
    I actually like his performance a great deal, not because he could act in any sense of the word, but because Lazenby himself at that particular time was in a Bond frame of mind. The mission: to secure the part. The reason to follow through: the babes. The resume: he could kick ass. Acting life expectancy: none at all.
    They cast a non-actor that was very much already the cinematic/literary Bond in real life.
    ;)
  • An update, as of 15.11.2014 :-):

    gPbRLv.jpg

    I still find it remarkable that George Lazenby is on last place in his first Bond outing. I think it's not really fair, considering he did only one Bond film and he got a lot of blaim for following Connery's footsteps.

    I think, if one is truly neutral, and puts aside all the gossip that went going on in 1969/1970, Lazenby now should really have a higher ranking.

    Even without the gossip and the blame, the feeling remains that Lazenby's performance just wasn't very good aside from the fighting and the other physical aspects. It could be argued that a lot of the dubbing etc took away from his acting, but the fact remains that it's there. Just the way the game goes.


    No, Lazenby IMO solely scores bad, because others think he always scores bad. That influences our judgement a bit I think. Moreover, Lazenby truly is the only actor who got a Golden Globe nomination for his 1st Bond outing. Let's not forget that.

    No, people give Lazenby low scores because they simply don't like his performance. I'm not one of those people who hate his performance (l adore it, in fact. IMO, the closest portrayal of Fleming's character), but I understand their dislike and criticisms of his performance- yes, even the "wooden performance" argument.

    The only reason I have not participated in this poll is because I'm finding it too difficult to rank them.

    But don't you think at least in part that people rate Lazenby so low, because he only did one....which he kinda fucked up on set and off set? Because he still has this "stigma" on his name? A stigma that indirectly clouds our judgements at least slightly? I mean, try to think if for all these 6 actors each first outing was also his last? How would people vote then.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    This is a very difficult one, as you just made me realise that 4 of these films are in my top 6 in my /23 ranking.

    And before I go ahead and rank, I think 5 of these films are great Bond films so it's a very hard ranking

    Actor
    01. Moore
    02. Lazenby - acting aside, at least Lazenby is convincing in a fight, I love all the fight sequences from beginning to end
    03. Brosnan
    04. Dalton - More accomplished as an actor than Connery, but as a Bond, not as much
    05. Connery
    06. Craig - This was difficult but I think while Connery was extremely cool in the role (thanks to Terence Young), Craig's acting is better although he was given more meat to chew in that department

    Film (so so difficult)
    02. LALD
    04. DN (not because it's bad, I just like the others better)
    06. GE (I love this one but mainly the score lets it down)
    08. OHMSS
    12. CR - close but I'll put this above OHMSS (for now)
    16. TLD - Top film at the moment
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited November 2014 Posts: 5,080
    An update, as of 15.11.2014 :-):

    gPbRLv.jpg

    I still find it remarkable that George Lazenby is on last place in his first Bond outing. I think it's not really fair, considering he did only one Bond film and he got a lot of blaim for following Connery's footsteps.

    I think, if one is truly neutral, and puts aside all the gossip that went going on in 1969/1970, Lazenby now should really have a higher ranking.

    Even without the gossip and the blame, the feeling remains that Lazenby's performance just wasn't very good aside from the fighting and the other physical aspects. It could be argued that a lot of the dubbing etc took away from his acting, but the fact remains that it's there. Just the way the game goes.


    No, Lazenby IMO solely scores bad, because others think he always scores bad. That influences our judgement a bit I think. Moreover, Lazenby truly is the only actor who got a Golden Globe nomination for his 1st Bond outing. Let's not forget that.

    No, people give Lazenby low scores because they simply don't like his performance. I'm not one of those people who hate his performance (l adore it, in fact. IMO, the closest portrayal of Fleming's character), but I understand their dislike and criticisms of his performance- yes, even the "wooden performance" argument.

    The only reason I have not participated in this poll is because I'm finding it too difficult to rank them.

    But don't you think at least in part that people rate Lazenby so low, because he only did one....which he kinda fucked up on set and off set? Because he still has this "stigma" on his name? A stigma that indirectly clouds our judgements at least slightly? I mean, try to think if for all these 6 actors each first outing was also his last? How would people vote then.

    No differently, because you still have Connery's exemplary first performance, Roger's different, more light-hearted approach, Dalton's intense performance, Brosnan's cool, confident take and Craig's balls of steel (no pun intended) performance; and, for a lot of people,... Lazenby's performance (a good fighter, but nothing more of interest). Please note, that these don't reflect my own opinion.

    When I first watched OHMSS, I was free of any "prejudice" or "stigmas", as I had hardly heard of the film beforehand, and didn't know about Lazenby or his behaviour off-screen. Safe to say, the film blew me away, and is now my favourite Bond film. As for Lazenby, I felt rather indifferent. I thought he was very similar to Connery at the time, and that he was wonderful in his scenes with Tracy (especially "we have all the time in the world"). But I didn't think much more of him- the film as a whole is a masterpiece.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2014 Posts: 23,883
    Actors
    8 Points - Sean Connery in Dr No (the gold standard -no Bond without him)
    6 Points - Daniel Craig in CR (brillaint to this day - a superb turn)
    4 Points - Roger Moore in (for doing the impossible & establishing an alternative to Connery)
    3 Points - Timothy Dalton in (closest to Fleming they say)
    2 Points - Pierce Brosnan in (for not screwing it up)
    1 Point - George Lazenby in (a little stiff & a Connery-lite, but a decent debut)

    I want to clarify, no Bond actor put in a bad debut performance in my mind. Those who got a chance all got better or stayed the same in performance in ensuing movies.

    Movies
    16 Points - CR (brilliant reimagination)
    12 Points - Dr No (must have been great to viewers then & still holds up now but a bit dated to me, hence it's lower ranking vs. CR)
    8 Points - OHMSS (grows on you)
    6 Points - TLD (love it despite the week latter half)
    4 Points - GE (for bringing back Bond after all those years)
    2 Points - LALD (because Moore did so many better)

    I want to clarify that these are all very good movies IMO in the 50 year Bond history. Moore & Connery though did much better movies than their debut in my mind. Brosnan did not. Dalton was even (liked TLD & LTK equally). I still think Craig has yet to best his CR debut (Bond 24 will be that movie IMO).

    Total Package
    22 Points - CR
    20 Points - Dr. No
    9 Points - OHMSS
    9 Points - TLD
    6 Points - GE
    6 Points - LALD
  • Continue voting guys ;-)
  • Posts: 11,119
    Please cast your votes in this poll also. I'd like to receive a bit more results before I'm going to ask the moderator to close it.
  • Posts: 632
    Actors

    Craig
    Dalton
    Brosnan
    Connery
    Moore
    Lazenby

    Films

    Casino Royale
    The Living Daylights
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Goldeneye
    Dr. No
    Live & Let Die

    Total Package

    Casino Royale 24 pts
    The Living Daylights 18 pts
    Goldeneye 10 pts
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service 9 pts
    Dr. No 7 pts
    Live & Let Die 4 pts

    Like everyone says, it's a pretty tough choice. Goldeneye and Dr. No both took hits for musical score. JW Pepper and the boat chase took down Live & Let Die for me. All have their good points, tho'. It was a difficult call.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Thanks for the votes @JET007 ;-)
  • Jazz007Jazz007 Minnesota
    Posts: 257
    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Actor' in his first Bond outing:
    08 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
    06 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in The Living Daylights
    04 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    03 POINTS --> George Lazenby in OHMSS
    02 POINTS --> Roger Moore in Live And Let Die
    01 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye

    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Film' in which the Bond actor appeared for the first time:
    16 POINTS --> Casino Royale
    12 POINTS --> OHMSS
    08 POINTS --> Dr. No
    06 POINTS --> The Living Daylights
    04 POINTS --> GoldenEye
    02 POINTS --> Live And Let Die

    Total Points:
    24 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
    15 POINTS --> George Lazenby in OHMSS
    12 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    12 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in The Living Daylights
    05 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye
    04 POINTS --> Roger Moore in Live And Let Die


    A perfect score for Mr. Craig!

    I've always been a defender of George Lazenby's performance as genuine, edgy and all-around enjoyable; but it's also pretty clear to me that a number of other Bond performances have been better and Connery, Moore or Dalton would have elevated the wonderful OHMSS even more.

    Connery and Dalton score a tie - I'll choose Dr. No as a film over The Living Daylights, it's far more stylish with better supporting characters. But Dalton's performance is fantastic and, although Connery is the definitive James Bond, Dalton gives a wonderfully layered performance with a certain about of vulnerability that Connery never had (not to his discredit, but still....).

    I'll take GoldenEye any day of the week over Live And Let Die - so Moore gets a raw deal because I easily prefer Moore as Bond well over Brosnan. It's a strange circumstance... GoldenEye is the only Bond film in the Brosnan era that I have any time for and Live And Let Die is the only one of Moore's that I say isn't all that fun to watch; but Brosnan's tenure got worse in quality and Moore's got better since the first films. Live And Let Die has its moments for sure, all of which I credit to the presence of Moore, but it's not as solid of a movie as GoldenEye is. If Moore's first film was a stronger one, it would have been a different total.

    All-in-all, this was a fun poll!
  • Posts: 11,119
    Thanks for the votes buddy ;-)
  • edited July 2015 Posts: 832
    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Actor' in his first Bond outing:
    08 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
    06 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    04 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in The Living Daylights
    03 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye
    02 POINTS --> Roger Moore in Live And Let Die
    01 POINTS --> George Lazenby in OHMSS

    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Film' in which the Bond actor appeared for the first time:
    16 POINTS --> Casino Royale
    12 POINTS --> OHMSS
    08 POINTS --> GoldenEye
    06 POINTS --> The Living Daylights
    04 POINTS --> Dr. No
    02 POINTS --> Live And Let Die

    Total Points:
    24 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
    13 POINTS --> George Lazenby in OHMSS
    11 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye
    10 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    10 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in The Living Daylights
    04 POINTS --> Roger Moore in Live And Let Die


    I hate to give LALD such a low rating, I love that film.
  • M16_CartM16_Cart Craig fanboy?
    Posts: 538
    Actor's First Performance
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    1 - Daniel Craig
    2 - Sean Connery
    3 - Timothy Dalton
    4 - Pierce Brosnan
    5 - Roger Moore
    6 - George Lazenby
  • Posts: 11,119
    Thanks for the votes, but please rank the Bond outing and their first Bond film separately. And then the totals as well.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Actor' in his first Bond outing:
    08 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in TLD
    06 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    04 POINTS --> Roger Moore in LALD
    03 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye
    02 POINTS --> George Lazenby in OHMSS
    01 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale

    My TOP 6 of 'Best Bond Film' in which the Bond actor appeared for the first time:
    16 POINTS --> Goldeneye
    12 POINTS --> The Living Daylights
    08 POINTS --> OHMSS
    06 POINTS --> Casino Royale
    04 POINTS --> Dr. No
    02 POINTS --> Live And Let Die

    Total Points:
    20 POINTS --> Timothy Dalton in TLD
    19 POINTS --> Pierce Brosnan in Goldeneye
    10 POINTS --> George Lazenby in OHMSS
    10 POINTS --> Sean Connery in Dr. No
    07 POINTS --> Daniel Craig in Casino Royale
    06 POINTS --> Roger Moore in Live And Let Die
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