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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Can’t wait for the Nintendo Switch edition coming soon. I adore the first couple in particular, both 10/10s. Going to hit different after Conroy’s tragic passing. I’d rank:

    1. Arkham City
    2. Arkham Asylum
    3. Arkham Origins
    4. Arkham Knight

    Frankly, I thought Knight was very disappointing story-wise and made a big mistake with Scarecrow’s characterization and shoehorning in The Joker - it’s the one where I’d say the extra / side content surpassed the main campaign. The Professor Pyg mission in particular is a highlight.

    My beef with Origins is that it doesn't have the two lead voices I want (though Craig Smith and Baker do very well), tends to go buggy on me, and has a poor story overall. I in particular find the crime-scene-investigation missions a bit tedious.

    But the AO score is awesome! Christopher Drake knows what he's doing. I wish he'd be more involved with the Batman films.
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    There are admittedly way more bugs in it - it needed more time to be polished. But yeah, I was especially impressed by Craig Smith honestly, even though he is no Conroy. Asylum is my most nostalgic one, tons of great memories playing it as a youngster. Best atmosphere and music for sure. Also I think Conroy and Hamill’s best performances came in Asylum. City though I feel achieved the best balance of things I want from a great Batman game. But they are essentially 1A and 1B I love them both so much.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    For Batman fans (of a certain age or disposition), @Classic_Film is holding a "best of" villain tournament:

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    Where's Catwoman ?

    And in other vids :

  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    Gerard wrote: »
    Where's Catwoman ?

    A question for me? If so, Catwoman is actually the top seed in the contest.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    There are admittedly way more bugs in it - it needed more time to be polished. But yeah, I was especially impressed by Craig Smith honestly, even though he is no Conroy. Asylum is my most nostalgic one, tons of great memories playing it as a youngster. Best atmosphere and music for sure. Also I think Conroy and Hamill’s best performances came in Asylum. City though I feel achieved the best balance of things I want from a great Batman game. But they are essentially 1A and 1B I love them both so much.

    I agree, Arkham Asylum is my favorite of the series. I like it, as it focuses on the story and it's small scale. A great start to the series. Arkham City is a close second, for its villain's portrayals, and surprises you don't truly see coming. A few tweaks, with boss fights and a certain character rewrite, and Arkham Knight would truly be as great as Asylum and City.

    I never played much of Arkham Origins, so I can't judge. I also think that its studio wanted Gotham Knights to truly follow the Arkham Trilogy like Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League. But Rocksteady and others told them no. I have yet to play Gotham Knights, but I am interested.

    Two of my other favorite Batman videogames are Vengeance and Begins for Xbox. A lot of great memories of playing those, growing up and now.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    There are admittedly way more bugs in it - it needed more time to be polished. But yeah, I was especially impressed by Craig Smith honestly, even though he is no Conroy. Asylum is my most nostalgic one, tons of great memories playing it as a youngster. Best atmosphere and music for sure. Also I think Conroy and Hamill’s best performances came in Asylum. City though I feel achieved the best balance of things I want from a great Batman game. But they are essentially 1A and 1B I love them both so much.

    I agree, Arkham Asylum is my favorite of the series. I like it, as it focuses on the story and it's small scale. A great start to the series. Arkham City is a close second, for its villain's portrayals, and surprises you don't truly see coming. A few tweaks, with boss fights and a certain character rewrite, and Arkham Knight would truly be as great as Asylum and City.

    I never played much of Arkham Origins, so I can't judge. I also think that its studio wanted Gotham Knights to truly follow the Arkham Trilogy like Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League. But Rocksteady and others told them no. I have yet to play Gotham Knights, but I am interested.

    Two of my other favorite Batman videogames are Vengeance and Begins for Xbox. A lot of great memories of playing those, growing up and now.

    @MaxCasino, you make an excellent comment about the scale. Arkham Asylum can be beaten, Riddler Trophies included, in a reasonable amount of time. Arkham City takes a lot longer but is still doable. Arkham Knight... Oh boy. If you really want to get all those Riddler Trophies and whatnot, you'll have to play for weeks if not months on end. That's my only beef with AK. Because I'm the kind of player who wants to do it all... and yet, here I am, complaining about all that playable content being too much. ;-)
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    Am i the only one who puts origins first

    Look the twist is beyond stupid but they took detective mode up to 11

    I wish we could have an origins 2 to be honest

    My ranking

    1. Origins
    2. City
    3. Asylum
    4. Blackgate
    5. Orgins for the ipad
    6. Then Knight



    I hated arkham knight despite playing in the keaton bat suit the game was still horrible


    And again spoliers

    joker being the main bad guy of all four games was well annoying and beyond stupid i still think some how joker will be the main villain of sucide squad kills the justice league

    That being said i hope to get an xbox series x soon so i can play gotham knights which i dont care what people say in my head works better as a follow up to arkham knight then sucide squad


    Also also there was a origins 2 in development with (shock horror) joker not as the main villain…

    Its been a while since i looked up info about it but it was to show case Robin’s origins two face was the main villain i beilieve bigger map then Knight with haley’s circus being playable location etc


    There was also a Batman Beyond Arkham game that featured Damian wayne as batman that some character art work was leaked that also got scrapped because Wb doesnt want to make money i guess
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Nolan’s trilogy to return to theaters for Batman Day on Sep 16th.

    https://collider.com/the-dark-knight-trilogy-batman-day-screenings-showcase-theaters/
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I returned to Arkham Knight to get the Platinum some months back, and if I thought getting all the Riddler trophies was a pain before, it was even worse when coming back after 7-8 years of not having played it. I even managed to beat it on Knightmare Difficulty. Took a lot of teaching myself the controls and the fluidity of the movement and everything from scratch.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I returned to Arkham Knight to get the Platinum some months back, and if I thought getting all the Riddler trophies was a pain before, it was even worse when coming back after 7-8 years of not having played it. I even managed to beat it on Knightmare Difficulty. Took a lot of teaching myself the controls and the fluidity of the movement and everything from scratch.

    You have more patience than I have, @Creasy47!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I returned to Arkham Knight to get the Platinum some months back, and if I thought getting all the Riddler trophies was a pain before, it was even worse when coming back after 7-8 years of not having played it. I even managed to beat it on Knightmare Difficulty. Took a lot of teaching myself the controls and the fluidity of the movement and everything from scratch.

    You have more patience than I have, @Creasy47!

    I think I came back and had about 80-85% or so already found, so thankfully there weren't too many lingering out there, but holy hell the in-game list of them compared to trying to actually find them cohesively was the worst part. I thought the solutions and whatnot would be, but nope, it was trying to scratch them off as I went along and not overlook one in a corner that I'd never find again. Definitely a pain.

    I think the worst ones were when I'd have to press a button on a rooftop, dive down, hop in the Batmobile, and drive with perfection to the final button to unlock one.
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    Nolan’s trilogy to return to theaters for Batman Day on Sep 16th.

    https://collider.com/the-dark-knight-trilogy-batman-day-screenings-showcase-theaters/

    A nice opportunity for Bat-fans. I had the privilege of seeing all three in the same night at a theater coinciding with the midnight release of The Dark Knight Rises back in the day. Was an awesome time. I’ll likely just stick to watching one Batman film at home if I remember the special day - probably Burton’s original.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Nolan’s trilogy to return to theaters for Batman Day on Sep 16th.

    https://collider.com/the-dark-knight-trilogy-batman-day-screenings-showcase-theaters/

    A nice opportunity for Bat-fans. I had the privilege of seeing all three in the same night at a theater coinciding with the midnight release of The Dark Knight Rises back in the day. Was an awesome time. I’ll likely just stick to watching one Batman film at home if I remember the special day - probably Burton’s original.

    I would do the same. I also heard that some theaters are playing Batman 89 and Joker. My top 5 favorite live action versions of Batman (and Joker). Ironically, I view The Dark Knight Trilogy as one long movie.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I returned to Arkham Knight to get the Platinum some months back, and if I thought getting all the Riddler trophies was a pain before, it was even worse when coming back after 7-8 years of not having played it. I even managed to beat it on Knightmare Difficulty. Took a lot of teaching myself the controls and the fluidity of the movement and everything from scratch.

    You have more patience than I have, @Creasy47!

    I think I came back and had about 80-85% or so already found, so thankfully there weren't too many lingering out there, but holy hell the in-game list of them compared to trying to actually find them cohesively was the worst part. I thought the solutions and whatnot would be, but nope, it was trying to scratch them off as I went along and not overlook one in a corner that I'd never find again. Definitely a pain.

    I think the worst ones were when I'd have to press a button on a rooftop, dive down, hop in the Batmobile, and drive with perfection to the final button to unlock one.

    Don't get me started on those. That's when the fun is being sucked out of a game and I'm basically doing tedious homework. When games become too challenging, I start losing my appetite.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I returned to Arkham Knight to get the Platinum some months back, and if I thought getting all the Riddler trophies was a pain before, it was even worse when coming back after 7-8 years of not having played it. I even managed to beat it on Knightmare Difficulty. Took a lot of teaching myself the controls and the fluidity of the movement and everything from scratch.

    You have more patience than I have, @Creasy47!

    I think I came back and had about 80-85% or so already found, so thankfully there weren't too many lingering out there, but holy hell the in-game list of them compared to trying to actually find them cohesively was the worst part. I thought the solutions and whatnot would be, but nope, it was trying to scratch them off as I went along and not overlook one in a corner that I'd never find again. Definitely a pain.

    I think the worst ones were when I'd have to press a button on a rooftop, dive down, hop in the Batmobile, and drive with perfection to the final button to unlock one.

    Don't get me started on those. That's when the fun is being sucked out of a game and I'm basically doing tedious homework. When games become too challenging, I start losing my appetite.

    Well said. It quickly becomes miserable and ruins any sense of fun.
  • As much as I love and adore all the Arkham Games, Asylum is the only one I can bring myself to complete 100%. The others I usually just stop playing after the main campaign ends.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    FYI,
    The JOKER won – barely over the CATWOMAN.


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    While we were specifically asked to vote for the “character” and not necessarily for the performer, that was almost impossible – at least for me as Frank Gorshin, Burgess Meredith, Cesar Romero and Julie Newmar made quite the impression back in the day.

    And, of course, many of the “second tier” villains like George Sanders / Otto Preminger / Eli Wallach (MR. FREEZE), Roddy McDowall (THE BOOKWORM), Van Johnson (THE MINSTREL), Shelley Winters (MA PARKER), Vincent Price (EGGHEAD), Cliff Robertson (SHAME), David Wayne (THE MAD HATTER) and Malachi Throne (FALSE FACE) were great as well! A virtual “who’s who” of film and TV stars. What Fun!


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    Sanders did a movie with Cleese actually
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    FYI,
    And, of course, many of the “second tier” villains like George Sanders / Otto Preminger / Eli Wallach (MR. FREEZE), Roddy McDowall (THE BOOKWORM), Van Johnson (THE MINSTREL), Shelley Winters (MA PARKER), Vincent Price (EGGHEAD), Cliff Robertson (SHAME), David Wayne (THE MAD HATTER) and Malachi Throne (FALSE FACE) were great as well!

    This might be controversial, but I found George Sanders as Mr. Freeze far superior to Otto Preminger and Eli Wallach, who leaned too far into hamfisted camp. I also found Van Johnson's The Minstrel to be somewhat boring, though his episode had a decent script. But I fully agree with anyone who praises Roddy McDowall's Bookworm, Vincent Price's Egghead, Cliff Robertson's Shame, David Wayne's Mad Hatter, and Malachi Throne's False Face. The latter might be the best of all the second-tier villains, and it's a shame he never returned. Apparently the producers thought he was too sinister, but why is that a bad thing in a villain?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Thirty-one years ago today, this highly influential classic was shown to the public for the first time. Happy anniversary Batman: The Animated Series! You have proven to be a timeless classic that is arguably the best version of Batman.
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    BTAS is the GOAT. We’re so lucky we to have it. Can’t wait to pick up Mask of the Phantasm 4K.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    MaxCasino wrote: »




    Thirty-one years ago today, this highly influential classic was shown to the public for the first time. Happy anniversary Batman: The Animated Series! You have proven to be a timeless classic that is arguably the best version of Batman.

    31 years I can't believe it, I remember watching the show debut. The Mask of the Phantasm is still my favorite Batman film.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    BTAS is an incredibly unique gift that we received from DC. Its animation, storytelling, music, voice acting, characterizations,... everything is perfect!
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    Used to watch BTAS all the time as a kid (not to mention Batman Beyond, both of which had been around a while even then). Honestly, I still think Mask of The Phantasm is the best Batman film by a quite a margin (so much better written than any of the Nolan films in my opinion).
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Used to watch BTAS all the time as a kid (not to mention Batman Beyond, both of which had been around a while even then). Honestly, I still think Mask of The Phantasm is the best Batman film by a quite a margin (so much better written than any of the Nolan films in my opinion).

    Nonsense, son! The best Batman film remains Batman '66.

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    I mean, MOTP!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Batman Day | September 16 | DC
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.cbr.com/batman-day-announcements-dc/

    https://comicbook.com/dc/news/joker-2-composer-hildur-gudnadottir-folie-a-duex-score-exclusive/

    I really hope we see more comic book characters in this. I could see Dr. Hugo Strange, Toyman, Professor Pyg, and a few other characters fitting in this world well.
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    It took me three nights to watch, but I enjoyed The Batman although I didn't expect to. Despite reading a rave review about the heat generated between Cat and The Bat, I didn't see it. She came across as a bit immature. I probably like the more cartoonish appearances of the villains as done in previous films, but I get this film was not trying to be previous iterations. I don't feel the overall story is strong, but enough it going on in this film that I look forward to Part II.
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    It took me three nights to watch, but I enjoyed The Batman although I didn't expect to. Despite reading a rave review about the heat generated between Cat and The Bat, I didn't see it.

    Neither did I. She was an adequate Catwoman, but there wasn't much electricity between her and Batman. West and Keaton had better luck with their Catwomen.
    I don't feel the overall story is strong, but enough it going on in this film that I look forward to Part II.

    My feeling was that the movie started out strong but lost steam in the third act, which didn't seem as tightly written as the previous two. The Riddler became less interesting as the movie went on. Nor was the running time justified (why does every movie have to be three hours long nowadays?). But Pattinson was an effective mopey Batman and the movie was enjoyable enough to merit a sequel.
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