The DANIEL CRAIG Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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  • RC7RC7
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    Germanlady wrote:
    Even though you write this to bitch again in such a grown up fashion, you are not even wrong. He would - no doubt - do exactly that, if anybody ever dared to do that. If he would see that and gets out of the house, you better run. I don't think, he would actually hurt anybody physically, but he can be scary enough, I think, without having to do that. Not all his Bond attitude is acting ;)

    He's usually incognito around Hampstead...

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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Germanlady wrote:
    Even though you write this to bitch again in such a grown up fashion, you are not even wrong. He would - no doubt - do exactly that, if anybody ever dared to do that. If he would see that and gets out of the house, you better run. I don't think, he would actually hurt anybody physically, but he can be scary enough, I think, without having to do that. Not all his Bond attitude is acting ;)

    Relax GL I'm just winding you up!

    #whosaysthegermanshavenosenseofhumour
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601
    ..and don't I know it. If this is what makes you happy...I must be quite important to you with all the time you spend thinking of me. Not sure, I appreciate it though. I have been in Kindergarden, when I was 4,5. Maybe we can up the level? OR drop it altogether? ;)

    So RC7, Wizard - why not make peace and allow each other to gush over what we choose, without getting ridiculed? I know, its hard for some - obviously - to accept, that
    - no, I am not first and foremost a Bondfan
    - yes, I am first and foremost a Caigfan
    But don't you think by now, I got enough beating for this incredible sin?
  • RC7RC7
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    Germanlady wrote:
    ..and don't I know it. If this is what makes you happy...I must be quite important to you with all the time you spend thinking of me. Not sure, I appreciate it though. I have been in Kindergarden, when I was 4,5. Maybe we can up the level? OR drop it altogether? ;)

    So RC7, Wizard - why not make peace and allow each other to gush over what we choose, without getting ridiculed?

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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Let's try and keep this thread for the appreciation of Daniel Craig please fellas.
    ;)

    Appreciaton threads are for just that.
    Though it must be said you're doing yourself no favours by responding to the people you have a qualm with @Germanlady.
    The old saying 'people who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones'
    Germanlady wrote:
    Since they won't be coming to my towen, it doesn't really mattter ;) But the bigger the town or/and the studio, the more on set etc we will get. The book comes out in Germany soon, so I will have a look.
    Sandy wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Since they won't be coming to my towen, it doesn't really mattter ;) But the bigger the town or/and the studio, the more on set etc we will get. The book comes out in Germany soon, so I will have a look.

    I guess there is no hope they come here either :( I haven't read the book but I knew about these men for a long time. Still no idea who is playing who?
    Germanlady wrote:
    Sandy wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    Since they won't be coming to my towen, it doesn't really mattter ;) But the bigger the town or/and the studio, the more on set etc we will get. The book comes out in Germany soon, so I will have a look.

    I guess there is no hope they come here either :( I haven't read the book but I knew about these men for a long time. Still no idea who is playing who?

    Nope, its not revealed yet. But I am looking forward to read this book.
    http://monumentsmen.com/

    I was curious why you derailed your own thread earlier with a discussion about George Clooney???
    Thankfully the topic was brought back on track quickly.
    At the end of the day I would strongly suggest all parties let it go. This tedious bickering and one upmanship is getting boring.
    We all have differing opinions on the subject of James Bond, none of us are right so sometimes you just have to accept it and carry on.
    I for one rank Octopussy as my favourite Bond film, something I know many fans would laugh at and disagree with. That's fine, and this isn't about that. It's each fans right to their opinion on Bond. And hopefully we can discuss these in a polite and friendly manner.
    Carry on.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601
    Talking about Clooney is not derailing, Benny, as the next project IS with Clooney and since I named the thread appreciation AND news, THIS was news and will be talked further about, once they start filming.

    BTW - on the subject of how much of him is in JB, at 2:10

  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    It wasn't specific in your post as to Craigs next project. As I'm not an uber fanboy of Mr.Craig I wasn't aware of that.
    One should never assume that other posters are aware of the next projects of actors in the Bond universe.
    Also your tone toward other members myself included is very hostile and biting. The use of THIS in your posts is very DEMANDING and hostile I find. If you wish to earn the respect of your fellow poster, you'll find this is not the way to do so.
    It certainly isn't the way I appreciate being spoken to albeit via the forum.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601
    You are right about not having been specific. As of the other aspect, I don't share this notion, but we all feel different and not always happy about what is thrown at us, believe me.
    I hope, you have as much a problem with the tone of some posters in this thread, as you have with ine. If that is so, I am good, if not, I have a problem, but that might just be me then. Because its very obvious, that the fighting was started by others and still, I am the one being called out, AGAIN! Now don't expect me to appreciate that either.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Can we please quite moaning and groaning and appreciate Dan, PLEASE?! (rhetorical question)

    I'd just love that! ;;)
  • Although I don't love him like most of this site do, I think he's a good Bond and a fantastic actor (despite doing his fair share of crap movies).

    He was good in Layer Cake and he was fantastic in Our Friends In The North.
    Germanlady wrote:
    I don't think, he would actually hurt anybody physically, but he can be scary enough, I think, without having to do that. Not all his Bond attitude is acting ;)

    Meh. Dalts could take him :P
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    Meh. Dalts could take him :P

    And Connery would smack him over his with with a Golfclub and say something like ....hole in one. ;)

  • SaintMark wrote:
    Meh. Dalts could take him :P

    And Connery would smack him over his with with a Golfclub and say something like ....hole in one. ;)

    Dalts would just set Connerys toupe (I'm assuming it's young Connery) on fire with the lighter Felix gave him ;)

    For the record I think Lazenby (in his prime) is the toughest Bond. Trained the army in hand to hand combat, had a few blackbelts, knew Bruce Lee, etc.
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    Meh. Dalts could take him :P

    :D I would like to see them do it - both at the same age, lets say what DC is now. Dalton is taller (who isen't?) but I doubt, he was stronger. We'll never find out. But if Lazenby had the black belt, he might be able to take them all in - at the same time. ;)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Laz would be too busy staring at himself in the mirror...

    Oy, this is turning into the Bond actors fighting thread. :-S

    Ahh...back on topic...

    What is everyone's favorite Bond moment with Dan's Bond?
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 6,601
    What's yours? ;)

    Just a short run through the films, forgetting half of what else I like best.:

    CR:opening chase
    Poker table Miami
    Walking to the Casino in Montevideo
    shower scene

    QOS
    Hotelroomfight
    in the hotel with Fields
    plane scene (yes, I am one of the few, who thought it was good)
    scene with Camille afterwards
    jumping over the car, as its him

    SF
    Scorpion scene
    M scene in her house "enjoying death"
    "Done"
    Arriving in Macao
    Aston scene
    Scotland


  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Oh Dan, no amount of praise is enough to fully recognize you as the best Bond since Sean's era.

    At #2 and seriously challenging Sean, Dan has brought back a heart to Bond that we saw in Sean's era and got a wonderful glimpse of in Tim's impressive yet short era. His interpretation has made me realize why I love Bond so much: His serious, gritty, and emotive performances give Bond the dimensions such a class A character deserves. He is a new Bond for his day, a man who bleeds, missteps, and sheds tears for fallen comrades and lovers alike. If not for Dan most of my time would be spent here praising Sean and Tim. He gave me a refreshed reason to love Bond and all he is with the likes of CR, QoS and Skyfall. The minute I saw CR I fell instantly in love. How he handled the tough Bond who was rough around the edges was masterful, and I knew great things were coming in the future. In addition, his first three films are like a grand journey, where each carries into the other as Bond grows from a reckless rookie to a competent agent of great courage and loyalty. His chemistry with Dame Judi as M is the very heart of the era, and with this relationship CR, QoS and Skyfall now officially encompass The M Trilogy in my eyes. The bond ( ;) ) between them is so palpable, and so grown after what they have been through all these years that it makes the other Bond/M relationships look amateurish in comparison. To see them go from angry boss and misbehaving employee to proud boss and accomplished employee is heart warming and an immaculate part of the films and Bond history in general. It took the characters beyond the desk briefings and gave a compassion to their relationship. M is like a mother to Dan's Bond, and with his chemistry with Judi you feel that, right up until the moment when
    you realize that Bond is M's greatest legacy as she passes away to a much better and deserved rest.
    Seeing Bond running to save her in Skyfall against the recitation of Tennyson and Newman's powerful score represents everything Bond can and should be to me, and is the reason why I love the character so much. He retains his loyalty at any cost, even when it gets personal, and he never gives up no matter how beaten down or exhausted he is. Dan's performances in this regard are the best of the series, a perfect mix of brutality and suave, and also so deep, emotive and evocative of the best of Bond in his every mannerism and word. This, in addition to his unmatched dedication to the role and all its responsibilities prove that decades from now Bond fans both come and gone will look back at Daniel Craig's Bond era and smile fondly at a man who truly was the embodiment of James Bond 007.

    Much love to you Dan, and thanks for everything both now and in the future. :)>-

    Brilliantly said.

  • What is everyone's favorite Bond moment with Dan's Bond?

    Moment is either adjusting his cuffs in Skyfall or cleaning himself up after the fight on the stairs in CR.

    Scene is probably Silvas intro speech in Skyfall. Bardem and Craig were brilliant there.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited January 2013 Posts: 28,694
    Germanlady wrote:
    What's yours? ;)

    My favorite scene of Dan's Bond era and of the franchise is...

    The Tennyson scene.

    As I have said, it is the exemplification of why I love Bond so much, and in just a little scene EON have summed up why Bond is still around 50 years going. This powerful scene makes me so proud to be a Bond fan, especially in his milestone year, and I get emotional every time I see it. :((


    ...But they are happy tears, of course. ;)
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    CR:
    Beating the crap out of Fisher
    The Madagascar chase
    Bond clowning those German tourists
    Seducing Solange (getting her in the car and driving around in a circle)
    The smile he gives after Dimitrios' goon blows himself up
    The verbal exchange with Vesper on the train
    The Stephanie Broadchest joke
    Vesper pissed at Bond and telling him to take another lift
    Bond confidently walking to and through the casino to where the game is being held
    Bond's scrap with Obanno and his henchman
    Bond and Vesper sitting in the shower
    AM car flip (btw, Craig looks so badass when he drives in pursuit or away from villains)
    LeChiffre torturing Bond
    Bond in pursuit of Vesper
    Venice sinking building fight
    Bond trying to save/revive Vesper
    Bond shooting Mr White

    QoS:
    Opening car chase
    Time to get out
    Bond vs Slate
    Tosca fight
    Bond talking to Mathis on the plane
    Bond's arrival at the more sophisticated hotel
    Mathis' death
    Bond's confrontation with Yusef

    SF:
    Everything!
  • Posts: 6,601
    Germanlady wrote:
    What's yours? ;)

    My favorite scene of Dan's Bond era and of the franchise is...

    The Tennyson scene.

    As I have said, it is the exemplification of why I love Bond so much, and in just a little scene EON have summed up why Bond is still around 50 years going. This powerful scene makes me so proud to be a Bond fan, especially in his milestone year, and I get emotional every time I see it. :((


    ...But they are happy tears, of course. ;)

    True, this scene really delivers the goods. Fantastic editing. There is a lot to love, like I said, I forgot half of it. This certainly belongs in my list, too.

  • RC7RC7
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    My favourite Bond 'moment' is unquestionably when he cradles Vesper after her death. I can't think of another scene that has such emotional gravitas. He's simultaneously heartbroken, yet so incensed, you believe he could rip a man apart, limb from limb. I think it's moments like this that will endure, and become the hallmark's of the Craig era.

    Honourable mention: Bond confronts Yusef. However, for me it's contextually at odds with the rest of the film. The Vesper moment is a genuine emotional climax.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    RC7 wrote:
    My favourite Bond 'moment' is unquestionably when he cradles Vesper after her death. I can't think of another scene that has such emotional gravitas. He's simultaneously heartbroken, yet so incensed, you believe he could rip a man apart, limb from limb. I think it's moments like this that will endure, and become the hallmark's of the Craig era.

    Honourable mention: Bond confronts Yusef. However, for me it's contextually at odds with the rest of the film. The Vesper moment is a genuine emotional climax.

    What do you mean "contextually at odds"?
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote:
    My favourite Bond 'moment' is unquestionably when he cradles Vesper after her death. I can't think of another scene that has such emotional gravitas. He's simultaneously heartbroken, yet so incensed, you believe he could rip a man apart, limb from limb. I think it's moments like this that will endure, and become the hallmark's of the Craig era.

    Honourable mention: Bond confronts Yusef. However, for me it's contextually at odds with the rest of the film. The Vesper moment is a genuine emotional climax.

    What do you mean "contextually at odds"?

    The whole scene feels like an afterthought, shoe-horned in to tie up a loose end. As fans who analyse every detail, we're able to glean some relevance from it, but in the context of the film it doesn't sit well. Like I've said, you either deal with thd Vesper angle, front and centre, or you don't. Topping and tailing an otherwise irrelevant story with it, doesn't work for me.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    RC7 wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    My favourite Bond 'moment' is unquestionably when he cradles Vesper after her death. I can't think of another scene that has such emotional gravitas. He's simultaneously heartbroken, yet so incensed, you believe he could rip a man apart, limb from limb. I think it's moments like this that will endure, and become the hallmark's of the Craig era.

    Honourable mention: Bond confronts Yusef. However, for me it's contextually at odds with the rest of the film. The Vesper moment is a genuine emotional climax.

    What do you mean "contextually at odds"?

    The whole scene feels like an afterthought, shoe-horned in to tie up a loose end. As fans who analyse every detail, we're able to glean some relevance from it, but in the context of the film it doesn't sit well. Like I've said, you either deal with thd Vesper angle, front and centre, or you don't. Topping and tailing an otherwise irrelevant story with it, doesn't work for me.

    I don't think it is shoe-horned in. The plot only happens over the course of a short time, so it is plausible that Yusef would be found to still be alive by MI6 when they are in Siena and then they are able to track him down not long afterwards in Kabal. The scene alone is some of the best in Bond on its own accord, and I wouldn't trade it for any other scene in the film.
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    My favourite Bond 'moment' is unquestionably when he cradles Vesper after her death. I can't think of another scene that has such emotional gravitas. He's simultaneously heartbroken, yet so incensed, you believe he could rip a man apart, limb from limb. I think it's moments like this that will endure, and become the hallmark's of the Craig era.

    Honourable mention: Bond confronts Yusef. However, for me it's contextually at odds with the rest of the film. The Vesper moment is a genuine emotional climax.

    What do you mean "contextually at odds"?

    The whole scene feels like an afterthought, shoe-horned in to tie up a loose end. As fans who analyse every detail, we're able to glean some relevance from it, but in the context of the film it doesn't sit well. Like I've said, you either deal with thd Vesper angle, front and centre, or you don't. Topping and tailing an otherwise irrelevant story with it, doesn't work for me.

    I don't think it is shoe-horned in. The plot only happens over the course of a short time, so it is plausible that Yusef would be found to still be alive by MI6 when they are in Siena and then they are able to track him down not long afterwards in Kabal. The scene alone is some of the best in Bond on its own accord, and I wouldn't trade it for any other scene in the film.

    Yeah it's a showcase in acting terms, which is why I referenced it. But it only works on a level which allows me to put together the pieces around it. It just doesn't work in context. I don't understand why M deems it so important, that she travels to Russia? Yusef is small fry. It feels like an unnecessary and frankly whimsical decision to include it where they did. That said, there's a lot of things I'd alter in QoS. It's s hotchpotch of scenes, some good, some bad, but not a cohesive whole. When a film operates in such a way, it can't possibly have the emotional resonance of one with a fully formed narrative. CR does it superbly and SF does it in a different way, shifting the emphasis onto the character arcs, pretty much wholesale.
  • RC7 wrote:
    SF does it in a different way, shifting the emphasis onto the character arcs, pretty much wholesale.

    I think SF suffered in some ways because of that. It focused on the characters almost entirely and so the story suffered. The film had it's fair share of plot holes and the story sometimes seemed too implausible for what the film was trying to be.
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    actonsteve wrote:
    Craig is a titan who grinds brozzer bond into the gravel with the heel of his foot.

    The bonds have been so acclaimed, profitable or esteemed as in his tenure.

    I feel sorry for the poor bugger who comes after him...

    A lot of people said that about Brosnan - they couldn't imagine whoever came after him reaching anywhere near the same popularity!

    The situation with Brosnan and Craig reminds me of Matt Smith replacing David Tennant in Doctor Who. Both Brosnan and Tennant were very much "stars" who brought their franchises to huge levels of popularity not seen for a very long time. Because of that, their fans were very sorry to see them go and people were wary of the actors who would follow them. Then , when Craig and Smith were both announced, there was a shocked response to their casting with a lot of people wondering how the powers that be could have got it all so wrong (Craig's looks, Smith's age).

    Yet both Craig and Smith delivered exceptional performances, won over a lot of their critics (there will always be those who revel in their stubbornness), showed that you coul
  • Posts: 161
    SaintMark wrote:
    Well he is no Sean Connery or Roger Moore

    Yeah he's better :)>-
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