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  • edited September 2015 Posts: 725
    I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension of what a modern movie poster is for. It is advertising, it is not art. A busy, busy poster filled with scenic design, pics of co-stars, logos and other "art work" is worthless for pushing a Bond in this killer market. Star Wars is about stuff, great stuff, but still lots and lots of stuff, jets, and light sabers, and robots, and dozens of actors. Bond is about Bond, killer and playboy, unique. It is not about co-stars, logo, scenery or gizmos. They have one second to register what this coming film is about to tens of millions in dozens of countries, in dozens of languages.

    The man hours that go into devising a single line of text on any output for a million dollar project, let along a $300m film's poster is endless. It's one thing if something doesn't meet a fan's expectations, but at least think for a second about exactly what a poster in this killer of a competitive film market is supposed to do.
  • Posts: 14,834
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    The SW poster is VERY old fashioned and from a very different genre.

    The genre doesn't matter. Many people here are calling for the Bond posters to recall that of old which were similar in design and creativity to the SW posters. The point is, old style or contemporary, Bond fans it seems aren't that fussed. Where the problem lies is within the all too apparent lack of creativity and excitement that should be going into these posters.

    I'm a Bond fan and I quite like it. The genre does matter: Bond movies are spy thrillers, not naive space opera.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,526
    Ludovico wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    The SW poster is VERY old fashioned and from a very different genre.

    The genre doesn't matter. Many people here are calling for the Bond posters to recall that of old which were similar in design and creativity to the SW posters. The point is, old style or contemporary, Bond fans it seems aren't that fussed. Where the problem lies is within the all too apparent lack of creativity and excitement that should be going into these posters.

    I'm a Bond fan and I quite like it. The genre does matter: Bond movies are spy thrillers, not naive space opera.

    Naive?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    smitty wrote: »
    I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension of what a modern movie poster is for. It is advertising, it is not art. A busy, busy poster filled with scenic design, pics of co-stars, logos and other "art work" is worthless for pushing a Bond in this killer market. Bond is about Bond, not the co-stars, not the logo, not the scenery. They have one second to register what this coming film is about to tens of millions in dozens of countries, in dozens of languages.

    It's about Bond as killer and playboy. The man hours that go into devising a single line of text on any output for a million dollar project, let along a $300m film's poster is endless. It's one thing if something doesn't meet a fan's expectations, but at least think for a second about exactly what a poster in this killer of a competitive film market is supposed to do.

    They're not mutually exclusive.

    Honestly, you sound like a capitalist joy vacuum. If we were on a media business forum I'd understand, but I have to say that I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension from people like yourself that others residing on a Bond forum might care a little less about the top line and a little more about the quality of content. It goes without saying that the films need to make money, but why that should be at the forefront of fans' minds is lost on me.
  • Posts: 14,834
    Ludovico wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    The SW poster is VERY old fashioned and from a very different genre.

    The genre doesn't matter. Many people here are calling for the Bond posters to recall that of old which were similar in design and creativity to the SW posters. The point is, old style or contemporary, Bond fans it seems aren't that fussed. Where the problem lies is within the all too apparent lack of creativity and excitement that should be going into these posters.

    I'm a Bond fan and I quite like it. The genre does matter: Bond movies are spy thrillers, not naive space opera.

    Naive?
    Ludovico wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    The SW poster is VERY old fashioned and from a very different genre.

    The genre doesn't matter. Many people here are calling for the Bond posters to recall that of old which were similar in design and creativity to the SW posters. The point is, old style or contemporary, Bond fans it seems aren't that fussed. Where the problem lies is within the all too apparent lack of creativity and excitement that should be going into these posters.

    I'm a Bond fan and I quite like it. The genre does matter: Bond movies are spy thrillers, not naive space opera.

    Naive?

    Well yes naive. I'm not saying it in a derogatory way. But in any case, the SW poster is not original or meant to be: it's a typical SW poster.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 3,169
    smitty wrote: »
    Bond is about Bond, not the co-stars, not the logo, not the scenery.
    That's an opinion. Here's another: Bond is not only about Bond, but also the supporting cast, the scenery, etc... We've spent months gazing at the first minimalistic official Craig poster for SP, do we really need another almost just like it?
    Here's a great and much more creative "non-busy" poster, btw (credits to @Haserot):

    SPposter_zps83409946.jpg
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,477
    @Zekidk, that poster is infinitely better than the one released yesterday. If I'm seeing fan art that is leagues and leagues better than the official ones (much like someone else pointed out - they're professionals with access to much better equipment), then that's disappointing.
  • Posts: 6,601
    The SW poster is an old fashioned "over the top" ad for the film (something they obviously chose to go back to old times) Nothing wrong with that, but I REALLY, really don't see anything, that shows any more THOUGHT. What thoughts do you need to put in what you know, the movie contains? None..

    Spectre went the other way, it has chosen to set the poster apart from the past for some time and continues that route. Nothing wrong with that either. Minimalistic might need more thought at times then just put action into a frame.

    Both try to catch the eye - with different approach. And most likely both succeed.

    One goes for colour, one is "bang between the eyes" .

    Neither is art.

  • Posts: 14,834
    ... And yet people complain that too much time is given to Bond's colleagues in SF.

    And it's a nice little poster by @haserot but not great. or original: it looks like a pastiche of The Godfather.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,477
    @Ludovico, I would say showcasing Bond's colleagues on a poster and having them overstay their welcome in the films are two entirely different things.
  • Posts: 3,169
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Neither is art.
    How do you define "art", then?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Ludovico, I would say showcasing Bond's colleagues on a poster and having them overstay their welcome in the films are two entirely different things.
    Ben Whishaw being listed as the third cast member is a bad sign.
  • Posts: 7,500
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »

    Look at this new SW poster

    forceposter2.jpg

    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.

    Really? Just because more is better? What I see is just a frame with all main characters and some vehicles, who do not much more then just being there. What thoughtfulness do you see in it? Do they tell a story? Is there any hidden meaning? I don't think so.

    The poster looks like more effort went into it than a picture of Craig just standing there. You're right, the frame shows everything what to expect, Spectre should have done something similar. No car, no Bond girl, no villain, no nothing. Just Bond standing there, arms folded. The thoughtfulness I see in the SW poster is more than what obviously went into SP's. Meaning? Story? Er, you look at the poster and you see everything you mentioned the frame contains and know it's going to be an action packed SW movie worth seeing.

    SW is bigger than Bond, that's a movie series that could easily get away with extreme minimalist posters but guess what? They don't and actually bother to put some effort into it because unlike the folks at EoN, they actually give a damn.


    So I thought, this is the heart of the issue isn't it? People complain because the poster is simple and does not splash Lea, Monica, Chris and Bautista (and why not throw Ralph, Naomi, Ben and a fancy car in there as well when we are at it?), and then you pretend it is a deep matter of "thoughtfulness" and "creativity"? :)

    For me that SW poster looks bland, unimaginative and cheap, while the Spectre one looks hundred times more elegant, 'creative' and 'thoughtful'.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,477
    jake24 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Ludovico, I would say showcasing Bond's colleagues on a poster and having them overstay their welcome in the films are two entirely different things.
    Ben Whishaw being listed as the third cast member is a bad sign.

    Wow, I didn't even notice that. I can only assume Q will be Bond's companion for a good portion of the movie, then. Great...
  • Posts: 14,834
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Ludovico, I would say showcasing Bond's colleagues on a poster and having them overstay their welcome in the films are two entirely different things.

    So the movie should remain Bond centric but there can be a crowd in the poster? I'm good with a sober poster. Even a minimalist one.
  • Posts: 725
    RC7 wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension of what a modern movie poster is for. It is advertising, it is not art. A busy, busy poster filled with scenic design, pics of co-stars, logos and other "art work" is worthless for pushing a Bond in this killer market. Bond is about Bond, not the co-stars, not the logo, not the scenery. They have one second to register what this coming film is about to tens of millions in dozens of countries, in dozens of languages.

    It's about Bond as killer and playboy. The man hours that go into devising a single line of text on any output for a million dollar project, let along a $300m film's poster is endless. It's one thing if something doesn't meet a fan's expectations, but at least think for a second about exactly what a poster in this killer of a competitive film market is supposed to do.

    They're not mutually exclusive.

    Honestly, you sound like a capitalist joy vacuum. If we were on a media business forum I'd understand, but I have to say that I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension from people like yourself that others residing on a Bond forum might care a little less about the top line and a little more about the quality of content.[/b] It goes without saying that the films need to make money, but why that should be at the forefront of fans' minds is lost on me.

    I'm very concerned about SP's quality and its BO success, not it's poster. You, on the other hand have repeatedly stated in other posts that you don't giver a dame about the BO for this film. Did you ever stop to think of the results of a poor BO result? If this film doesn't make bank, there will not be another Bond for many years as they regroup, and that very likely won't be just 2-3 years. The budgets will be slashed (maybe not a bad thing), EON will lose major leverage in their negotiations with a new distribution studio (a major bad thing) losing all kinds of clout in every key area (another major bad thing), including big dollars for expensive co-stars, and on and on. I don't think you have to be a greedy capitalist to want this film to be great AND a big hit. Most fans on this site also want that result. So, yes, I'm guilty at looking at the purpose of the poster, which is to sell tickets. For me the creative art I'm concerned about is in the film, period.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited September 2015 Posts: 40,477
    I'm fine with minimalist, too, if it's done creatively. Slapping an awkwardly posed Bond atop an image of him in a costume isn't my idea of creative minimalism, it just looks sloppy and hastily thrown together.

    I never said the movie should be Bond centric, either, but I do miss the times when Bond flirted with MP, received his mission from M, got his gadgets from Q, and was off, with hardly any contact amongst them for the rest of the movie, unless they popped up again on site or something - though I don't know how they'll manage to make that work if Q hates flying so much.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    jobo wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »

    Look at this new SW poster

    forceposter2.jpg

    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.

    Really? Just because more is better? What I see is just a frame with all main characters and some vehicles, who do not much more then just being there. What thoughtfulness do you see in it? Do they tell a story? Is there any hidden meaning? I don't think so.

    The poster looks like more effort went into it than a picture of Craig just standing there. You're right, the frame shows everything what to expect, Spectre should have done something similar. No car, no Bond girl, no villain, no nothing. Just Bond standing there, arms folded. The thoughtfulness I see in the SW poster is more than what obviously went into SP's. Meaning? Story? Er, you look at the poster and you see everything you mentioned the frame contains and know it's going to be an action packed SW movie worth seeing.

    SW is bigger than Bond, that's a movie series that could easily get away with extreme minimalist posters but guess what? They don't and actually bother to put some effort into it because unlike the folks at EoN, they actually give a damn.


    So I thought, this is the heart of the issue isn't it? People complain because the poster is simple and does not splash Lea, Monica, Chris and Bautista (and why not throw Ralph, Naomi, Ben and a fancy car in there as well when we are at it?), and then you pretend it is a deep matter of "thoughtfulness" and "creativity"? :)

    For me that SW poster looks bland, unimaginative and cheap, while the Spectre one looks hundred times more elegant, 'creative' and 'thoughtful'.

    Not really. The SW poster isn't perfect but at least it evokes something exciting and an element of adventure that people are expecting and isn't just a picture of a Jedi or a Sith holding a light sabre. The new SP poster is nice but it's unacceptable to lazily just slap a picture of Bond folding his arms and voila, here enjoy. It's a joke really but whatever, what's done is done. I'm much more concerned about the quality of the actual film.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,526
    I like these for simple minimalist film posters:
    no277-007-2-my-casino-royale-minimal-movie-poster-chungkong-art.jpg
    no051-my-mad-max-4-fury-road-minimal-movie-poster-chungkong-art.jpg
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    smitty wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension of what a modern movie poster is for. It is advertising, it is not art. A busy, busy poster filled with scenic design, pics of co-stars, logos and other "art work" is worthless for pushing a Bond in this killer market. Bond is about Bond, not the co-stars, not the logo, not the scenery. They have one second to register what this coming film is about to tens of millions in dozens of countries, in dozens of languages.

    It's about Bond as killer and playboy. The man hours that go into devising a single line of text on any output for a million dollar project, let along a $300m film's poster is endless. It's one thing if something doesn't meet a fan's expectations, but at least think for a second about exactly what a poster in this killer of a competitive film market is supposed to do.

    They're not mutually exclusive.

    Honestly, you sound like a capitalist joy vacuum. If we were on a media business forum I'd understand, but I have to say that I'm amazed at the lack of comprehension from people like yourself that others residing on a Bond forum might care a little less about the top line and a little more about the quality of content.[/b] It goes without saying that the films need to make money, but why that should be at the forefront of fans' minds is lost on me.

    I'm very concerned about SP's quality and its BO success, not it's poster. You, on the other hand have repeatedly stated in other posts that you don't giver a dame about the BO for this film. Did you ever stop to think of the results of a poor BO result? If this film doesn't make bank, there will not be another Bond for many years as they regroup, and that very likely won't be just 2-3 years. The budgets will be slashed (maybe not a bad thing), EON will lose major leverage in their negotiations with a new distribution studio (a major bad thing) losing all kinds of clout in every key area (another major bad thing), including big dollars for expensive co-stars, and on and on. I don't think you have to be a greedy capitalist to want this film to be great AND a big hit. Most fans on this site also want that result. So, yes, I'm guilty at looking at the purpose of the poster, which is to sell tickets. For me the creative art I'm concerned about is in the film, period.

    It will make it's money. I don't see the need for all the worry. When the dust settles I don't give a toss about whether it was a hit or big hit, I care about whether it's a great film and whether I can hand it's poster on my wall. NO Bond film has been a flop and it's not going start with SP.
  • Posts: 498
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    I don't understand the complaints. This poster is great! =D>

    Sarcasm.

    Honesty :-)
    After seeing that poster I thought the forum would go berserk of excitement over its fabulousness...just goes to show you never know ;)

    The poster is bloody fantastic, lightyears better than anything we got so far in the Craig-era.
    They finally got their act together and have a decent campaign.

    The poster is only one more thing that suggests the movie is an homage to the 60's James Bond movies, this was worked out in great detail, Tom Ford as clothes designer (another stroke of genius), the OHMSS theme in the trailer, some still photographs of Spectre could be taken out of Caprice or North By Northwest (59) or other 60's cult classics.

    The background colour with the haunting skull image is brilliant as a contrast to James Bond in the white tux striking a pose that says, hey look at me, I'm the Connery of my generation!
    While simplistic it gets the message across within a second. Furthermore this poster is a true eye-catcher! It will stick out everywhere it gets shown.

    For the first time in the Craig era, I have the feeling they finally know what they're doing and maybe Spectre will be that truly great film that can actually be compared to the Connery movies and even surpass them.

    I actually love the new poster too. But then again, people out here call genuine opinions flawed cases of sarcasm. Which is a bit sad really :-(.

    What I find genuinely sad is people who just lap up anything that's put in front of them because it's Bond related. If people like this poster that's their prerogative, but for the vast majority I think this is another case of a missed opportunity. Three years wait for something cobbled together in
    10 mins. Simply not good enough.

    You hit the nail on the head with that that one, This has been on my mind for years ,
    its the case with almost every James Bond forum ,
    Most of the posters over here , no matter how lousy a product they're given will praise it endlessly and will go to great lengths and clutch at straws to find merit and praise it
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    Skyfail wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    I don't understand the complaints. This poster is great! =D>

    Sarcasm.

    Honesty :-)
    After seeing that poster I thought the forum would go berserk of excitement over its fabulousness...just goes to show you never know ;)

    The poster is bloody fantastic, lightyears better than anything we got so far in the Craig-era.
    They finally got their act together and have a decent campaign.

    The poster is only one more thing that suggests the movie is an homage to the 60's James Bond movies, this was worked out in great detail, Tom Ford as clothes designer (another stroke of genius), the OHMSS theme in the trailer, some still photographs of Spectre could be taken out of Caprice or North By Northwest (59) or other 60's cult classics.

    The background colour with the haunting skull image is brilliant as a contrast to James Bond in the white tux striking a pose that says, hey look at me, I'm the Connery of my generation!
    While simplistic it gets the message across within a second. Furthermore this poster is a true eye-catcher! It will stick out everywhere it gets shown.

    For the first time in the Craig era, I have the feeling they finally know what they're doing and maybe Spectre will be that truly great film that can actually be compared to the Connery movies and even surpass them.

    I actually love the new poster too. But then again, people out here call genuine opinions flawed cases of sarcasm. Which is a bit sad really :-(.

    What I find genuinely sad is people who just lap up anything that's put in front of them because it's Bond related. If people like this poster that's their prerogative, but for the vast majority I think this is another case of a missed opportunity. Three years wait for something cobbled together in
    10 mins. Simply not good enough.

    You hit the nail on the head with that that one, This has been on my mind for years ,
    its the case with almost every James Bond forum ,
    Most of the posters over here , no matter how lousy a product they're given will praise it endlessly and will go to great lengths and clutch at straws to find merit and praise it


    The real irony is that I am highly, sometimes overly critical of the Craig-era in general.
    I'm an outspoken critic of EON and Skyfall.

    Now that I find something Craig-related (this new movie poster) truly amazing, I'm in a minority again

    :P

    I don't get why this poster is so criticised. What exactly did you people expect?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,477
    @BondJasonBond006, something that doesn't appear to have been thrown together in less than ten minutes.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 725
    The Star Wars poster is a good point. This poster easily looks like it could be for the first SW film from about 40 years ago with some reworking of the faces. All the stuff in there is exactly the same. The stars are irrelevant. Apart from Ford, I don't even know who they are. SW is a pre-sold hit. SP is not. EON is going with what they perceive is their strength to sell the film, an established, recognizable Bond from 3 previous films.

    I'm not focused on the poster. My concern is how great the film will be, and it's BO results, because there won't be another Bond for a long time if this film doesn't make back its budget. We will not be discussing the poster in 6-8 weeks, but we will, for years and years, be talking about the quality of this film and its BO results.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited September 2015 Posts: 9,020
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @BondJasonBond006, something that doesn't appear to have been thrown together in less than ten minutes.

    Ok ;) but I'm certain it took at least 20 minutes to do that poster (photo shoot of Connery...I mean....Craig not counted, that'll have taken another 5 minutes)
    8->
  • Posts: 498
    Skyfail wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    I don't understand the complaints. This poster is great! =D>

    Sarcasm.

    Honesty :-)
    After seeing that poster I thought the forum would go berserk of excitement over its fabulousness...just goes to show you never know ;)

    The poster is bloody fantastic, lightyears better than anything we got so far in the Craig-era.
    They finally got their act together and have a decent campaign.

    The poster is only one more thing that suggests the movie is an homage to the 60's James Bond movies, this was worked out in great detail, Tom Ford as clothes designer (another stroke of genius), the OHMSS theme in the trailer, some still photographs of Spectre could be taken out of Caprice or North By Northwest (59) or other 60's cult classics.

    The background colour with the haunting skull image is brilliant as a contrast to James Bond in the white tux striking a pose that says, hey look at me, I'm the Connery of my generation!
    While simplistic it gets the message across within a second. Furthermore this poster is a true eye-catcher! It will stick out everywhere it gets shown.

    For the first time in the Craig era, I have the feeling they finally know what they're doing and maybe Spectre will be that truly great film that can actually be compared to the Connery movies and even surpass them.

    I actually love the new poster too. But then again, people out here call genuine opinions flawed cases of sarcasm. Which is a bit sad really :-(.

    What I find genuinely sad is people who just lap up anything that's put in front of them because it's Bond related. If people like this poster that's their prerogative, but for the vast majority I think this is another case of a missed opportunity. Three years wait for something cobbled together in
    10 mins. Simply not good enough.

    You hit the nail on the head with that that one, This has been on my mind for years ,
    its the case with almost every James Bond forum ,
    Most of the posters over here , no matter how lousy a product they're given will praise it endlessly and will go to great lengths and clutch at straws to find merit and praise it


    The real irony is that I am highly, sometimes overly critical of the Craig-era in general.
    I'm an outspoken critic of EON and Skyfall.

    Now that I find something Craig-related (this new movie poster) truly amazing, I'm in a minority again

    :P

    I don't get why this poster is so criticised. What exactly did you people expect?

    Having a personal opinion and looking at something objectively is great , But that's not what I am getting at
    there are posters over here who will blindly fall in love with anything 'EON' , in the end we're the losers as EON can get away with half baked products which means lesser quality for us
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,020
    @Skyfail

    sorry, I misunderstood. Yes, you are right, of course. To be totally uncritical and fall in love with anything as a principle is naiv and even stupid.
  • Posts: 14,834
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm fine with minimalist, too, if it's done creatively. Slapping an awkwardly posed Bond atop an image of him in a costume isn't my idea of creative minimalism, it just looks sloppy and hastily thrown together.

    I never said the movie should be Bond centric, either, but I do miss the times when Bond flirted with MP, received his mission from M, got his gadgets from Q, and was off, with hardly any contact amongst them for the rest of the movie, unless they popped up again on site or something - though I don't know how they'll manage to make that work if Q hates flying so much.

    Like the old days of DN and FRWL, when MI6 and SPECTRE were featured extensively and Bond was absent from the screen for fairly long periods of time? I am all for it too. But I digress. Creativity sometimes have little to no importance: the SW poster people are pitting against the SP poster is a lot of things, but certainly not creative. It is as SW as it could be, it does not depart even slightly from what we have seen before. Pure space opera. I remember Bond novels and memorabilia selling themselves as Bond with a silhouette of a man in a tuxedo holding a gun. Nothing more was needed. Because nothing more is needed. You had the shadow of Bond in the teaser poster of QOS, if I am not mistaken, and it worked beautifully. Now we have Bond in a tuxedo, holding a gun, with the grim reaper disguise from the Dios Del Muerte. What's so bloody wrong about it?
    doubleoego wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Germanlady wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »

    Look at this new SW poster

    forceposter2.jpg

    More than a passing thought and effort went into it.

    Really? Just because more is better? What I see is just a frame with all main characters and some vehicles, who do not much more then just being there. What thoughtfulness do you see in it? Do they tell a story? Is there any hidden meaning? I don't think so.

    The poster looks like more effort went into it than a picture of Craig just standing there. You're right, the frame shows everything what to expect, Spectre should have done something similar. No car, no Bond girl, no villain, no nothing. Just Bond standing there, arms folded. The thoughtfulness I see in the SW poster is more than what obviously went into SP's. Meaning? Story? Er, you look at the poster and you see everything you mentioned the frame contains and know it's going to be an action packed SW movie worth seeing.

    SW is bigger than Bond, that's a movie series that could easily get away with extreme minimalist posters but guess what? They don't and actually bother to put some effort into it because unlike the folks at EoN, they actually give a damn.


    So I thought, this is the heart of the issue isn't it? People complain because the poster is simple and does not splash Lea, Monica, Chris and Bautista (and why not throw Ralph, Naomi, Ben and a fancy car in there as well when we are at it?), and then you pretend it is a deep matter of "thoughtfulness" and "creativity"? :)

    For me that SW poster looks bland, unimaginative and cheap, while the Spectre one looks hundred times more elegant, 'creative' and 'thoughtful'.

    Not really. The SW poster isn't perfect but at least it evokes something exciting and an element of adventure that people are expecting and isn't just a picture of a Jedi or a Sith holding a light sabre. The new SP poster is nice but it's unacceptable to lazily just slap a picture of Bond folding his arms and voila, here enjoy. It's a joke really but whatever, what's done is done. I'm much more concerned about the quality of the actual film.

    The SW poster is pure space opera and exactly like a SW poster would be and should be. I have no problem with it whatsoever, but it is certainly not inventive. Sometimes the best idea is not the original idea. A Bond poster can be, has been in the past and is now, little more than James Bond holding a gun. At the core, Bond movies and Bond novels are spy thrillers.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,477
    @Ludovico, it just looks lazy to me, and I'm not defending the QoS teaser poster, either, as I'm not the biggest fan of it. I just know that they can do much better than what they released yesterday.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,526
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    Skyfail wrote: »
    Skyfail wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    I don't understand the complaints. This poster is great! =D>

    Sarcasm.

    Honesty :-)
    After seeing that poster I thought the forum would go berserk of excitement over its fabulousness...just goes to show you never know ;)

    The poster is bloody fantastic, lightyears better than anything we got so far in the Craig-era.
    They finally got their act together and have a decent campaign.

    The poster is only one more thing that suggests the movie is an homage to the 60's James Bond movies, this was worked out in great detail, Tom Ford as clothes designer (another stroke of genius), the OHMSS theme in the trailer, some still photographs of Spectre could be taken out of Caprice or North By Northwest (59) or other 60's cult classics.

    The background colour with the haunting skull image is brilliant as a contrast to James Bond in the white tux striking a pose that says, hey look at me, I'm the Connery of my generation!
    While simplistic it gets the message across within a second. Furthermore this poster is a true eye-catcher! It will stick out everywhere it gets shown.

    For the first time in the Craig era, I have the feeling they finally know what they're doing and maybe Spectre will be that truly great film that can actually be compared to the Connery movies and even surpass them.

    I actually love the new poster too. But then again, people out here call genuine opinions flawed cases of sarcasm. Which is a bit sad really :-(.

    What I find genuinely sad is people who just lap up anything that's put in front of them because it's Bond related. If people like this poster that's their prerogative, but for the vast majority I think this is another case of a missed opportunity. Three years wait for something cobbled together in
    10 mins. Simply not good enough.

    You hit the nail on the head with that that one, This has been on my mind for years ,
    its the case with almost every James Bond forum ,
    Most of the posters over here , no matter how lousy a product they're given will praise it endlessly and will go to great lengths and clutch at straws to find merit and praise it


    The real irony is that I am highly, sometimes overly critical of the Craig-era in general.
    I'm an outspoken critic of EON and Skyfall.

    Now that I find something Craig-related (this new movie poster) truly amazing, I'm in a minority again

    :P

    I don't get why this poster is so criticised. What exactly did you people expect?

    Having a personal opinion and looking at something objectively is great , But that's not what I am getting at
    there are posters over here who will blindly fall in love with anything 'EON' , in the end we're the losers as EON can get away with half baked products which means lesser quality for us

    God forbid someone on the forums likes something EON puts out and wants to come in here and show their appreciation for it, lest you deem it objectively bad, and therefore contribute to the declining quality of the product EON puts out.
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