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I think it was totally down to the direction the films were going in at the time. I could totally see the Brozza in TLD, I mean, the film was written for him, so he could have done the serious Bond thing, had he been allowed by the source material.
Do you want to put that in English for those of us who don't speak Spy? :p
The dialogue could be cheesy in the Brosnan films. The worst lines (IMO) are:
-The first exchange with Bond and Mr Kil
-"Now...you said something about...going down together?
Sickening :-& :-& :-& I say that as someone that doesn't mind the Madonna cameo
That repeated line of dialogue irritated me
If I recall Tracy says something similar can't remember off the top of my head, though the repeated line as a plot reveal was lazy in TWINE I thought.
Tracy says, "People who want to stay alive play it safe." So basically while Elektra advocates living and acting freely, Tracy is tragically signaling her self-destructive and suicidal streak.
Remember the line now cheers was on a waking night shift when I posted and brain dead, so P and W just flipped what Tracy said it's literally the binary opposite not sure whether it was intentional.
Slimy. That's a good word for Brosnan's Bond.
@fire0and_ice, it's been a while since I've seen Brosnan's films, but isn't it in TWINE that Elektra asks Bond if he's had/lost another woman or something like that, and he downplays it? It could've been a purposeful, yet lame attempt to remind viewers of Tracy, like the line Elektra repeats ad nauseam.
At some point in 2005, though, my opinion changed - Connery became my favorite (hasn't been dethroned). The problem was definitely the scripts he was given. All of his films are littered with cool moments but they don't add up.
I remember not being happy when Craig was announced (or at the apparent F YOU the producers gave Brosnan) but in hindsight, I do think it was needed - the series definitely needed some sort of shakeup and Casino Royale delivered. I think it's such a shame, too, because I love a lot of Brosnan's work outside of Bond. The Matador, Tailor of Panama, After The Sunset...even The November Man seemed more impressive than some of his Bond stuff.
All in all, I'll always have a fondness for him but it's sad that his Bond era starts to fall apart when examined.
I'd like to add that for all purposes, the game Everything or Nothing could be considered canon and his last performance as Bond - definitely a much better way for him to leave the role.
I have had a bad shoulder the last few months, so I am starting to sympathize.
Besides, my feelings on Brosnan and at least two of his films have mellowed considerably lately. I know some others feel differently still.
Oh absolutely, every Bond is great in my eyes. It’s all really just down to preference. Brosnan was my 1st Bond, but Connery was the one that got me hooked on the series. Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, and Craig are all equally wonderful in my eyes, but whenever I think of Bond, it’s either Connery or Brosnan that immediately jump to mind.
It is. And the other is DAD.
Well, where to start? I would be Brossas worst fan. Being Irish, I knew of him through 'The Manions of America' and the awful 'Remington Steele', a show in which he played second fiddle to Stephanie Zimbalist, and thats one of the problems with Brossa, he always came across as second fiddle in his Bond films. When Roger left the role, Brossa was front runner in the media, especially here in Ireland, "The Man from County Meath was born to play Bond!" was the nonsense I was hearing constantly. He appeared on our main chat show 'The Late Late Show' and host Gay Byrne gestured to the audience "wouldn't He make a great Bond?" to resounding cheers "No, he bleedin' wouldn't!" I retorted at the telly!
To my relief, Timothy was signed and we got a fantastic new 007, the Best imo, but then that lawsuit came about, and when sorted, Dalton bowed out and back into the news came Brossa again!!
When he inevitably got the role, I went to see 'GoldenEye' , not expecting much, though I was loving the excitement of Bond returning to the big screen. The only thing I remember from that first viewing was Daniel Kleinmans dazzling title sequence! Its a dull movie, GE, and now it remains second last in my ranking! Brossa, despite whats said by fans, is a very bland, wooden actor, who has very low screen presence! When he does have to act, its unintentionally hilarious ( hello TWINE!) and he is always outshone by other actors, whether it be Judi Dench, Robbie Coltrane, Vincent Schiavelli or Sophie Marceau! There is no question he is a handsome guy, with youthful looks ( my nightmare was these looks meant he would be making 6 or 7 Bond films, think that would have finished me as a fan!) but Brossa also had a smugness/ smarm about him which none of the other actors had and greatly irritated me. Each movie after GE were equally forgettable, generic, by the numbers action (and poor action!) fodder.....and then DAD happened!!! And I thought "Jesus, it cant get any worse than this!" For the record, I dont just single out the Ice surfing scene and invisible car, but the whole movie was badly written, acted and directed, the very worst in the series! Anyway, sense prevailed and Brossa was dumped ( I was ELATED!!) and we got Daniel Craig, who was a revelation as Bond. I came away from first viewing of CR with the joys of being a James Bond safely returned! Brossas four movies reside at the bottom of my ranking, and thats where I reckon they will always stay!
Does this answer your question, @chrisisall?? 🤣🤣🤣
Say 'James Bond' and, without a second's consideration, I see Connery. And that's despite Craig's Bond resonating the most with me on a personal, emotional and visceral level. And also despite thinking 'that is James Bond' whenever I see Dalton from back in the day!
It's Connery or Dalton for me - but Brosnan was my first too, so he's not far behind.
Sorry fellas but all I got from those was a reaffirmation that Pierce is one of the best Bonds ;)
But with Brosnan, it hurts to say that I only like one half of his four films, and that's TND; I think his performance is effortless (I can't stand the film from the HALO jump onwards); but that first half, he was damn good... he leaned into his comfort zone. Once he stretches himself and tries "the drama", I find him cringey (TWINE and scenes like the one in DAD when he confronts M aboard the ship... I hear his reading of the lines and it sends uncomfortable shivers down my back).
Generally he just rubbed me the wrong way.... Perhaps when I was younger I watched him in something that turned me off? And that stuck to him when I watched his Bond films? I don't know what it is. But however this dislike came about, it hasn't softened with time.