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I've lost respect for Connery

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  • nick_007nick_007 Ville Marie
    Posts: 443
    The many years of my Bond fascination have taught me not to expect much from Connery. I enjoyed his Bond films but his actions regarding Eon and the producers no longer surprises me.

    I do think it's a shame but all in all it really isn't much of my concern. It has no effect on the current series other than some missed public appearances.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Troy wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    As much as I love the guy on screen, I don't respect him much in real life because of his politics (a guy with a knighthood, who lives in the Bahamas and doesn't pay UK taxes shouldn't really have the right to tell people to vote for Scottish independance).

    Anyway, I do think he should go to the SF premiere but if he's not healthy enough we can't really have a go at him for it. But then again, he seemed pretty healthy at the tennis.
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    Don't quite follow your argument....there are plenty of people with Honours who live abroad, don't pay UK taxes and express political opinions.....

    He happily took a knighthood even though he wants Scotland to be completely independant. He tells people what to vote for politically while living abroad as a tax exile.

    See my point?

    But even though I don't respect him much because of that, I think him not going to the premiere is his decision, he doesn't owe us anything and I haven't lost any respect for him because of it.
  • petergreenhill5petergreenhill5
    edited September 2012 Posts: 824
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    He happily took a knighthood even though he wants Scotland to be completely independant. He tells people what to vote for politically while living abroad as a tax exile.

    More fool the UK Government to award a knighthood to a person who openly campaigns for Scotland to be independent. I don't blame him for accepting it.

    He doesn't "tell" anybody anything. He is a UK citizen living abroad and has a right to express his political views via the media if asked.

    He has said that he'll return to Scotland to live if it gains independence.

  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    thelivingroyale wrote:

    He happily took a knighthood even though he wants Scotland to be completely independant. He tells people what to vote for politically while living abroad as a tax exile.

    If I were eighty plus I would love to live in the Bahamas, heck I would like to to live there today. And if I would get more for less tax I would not mind as I generally disagree with some stuff my taxes are spend on.

    And as far as the knighthood goes, he deserved better than the folks who bought it. And the man has never said he was not proud being a Scot, so him being up for independance is his political choice.

  • actonsteveactonsteve
    Posts: 1,492
    PeterGreenhill wrote:
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    More fool the UK Government to award a knighthood to a person who openly campaigns for Scotland to be independent. I>

    Oh for sure, but don't you think there is real hypocrisy in wanting a gong from a country you are trying to dismantle.

    Do you really believe he will go back to Scotland if it became independent? To get the benefits of the tax rules of the Bahamas he has to be a resident. He will be no more a resident of Scotland then I will be building an orbiting space station in my back garden.

    Connerys only god is money. If he had to chose between Scotland and losing his tax status Scotland would be kicked into the long grass.

  • The_ReaperThe_Reaper
    Posts: 1,092
    For me, his behavior taints everything he's ever done. Shame on him. There are 9 thousand children dying each day around the world from diseases and starvation and he's too good to give back to the franchise that gave him all his wealth? Screw him.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    The_Reaper wrote:
    For me, his behavior taints everything he's ever done. Shame on him. There are 9 thousand children dying each day around the world from diseases and starvation and he's too good to give back to the franchise that gave him all his wealth? Screw him.

    Your point being??? :-?

    Actonsteve said:
    Oh for sure, but don't you think there is real hypocrisy in wanting a gong from a country you are trying to dismantle.

    Do you really believe he will go back to Scotland if it became independent? To get the benefits of the tax rules of the Bahamas he has to be a resident. He will be no more a resident of Scotland then I will be building an orbiting space station in my back garden.

    Connerys only god is money. If he had to chose between Scotland and losing his tax status Scotland would be kicked into the long grass.

    Sour grapes or hostility??? :-?
  • VeryBondVeryBond
    Posts: 306
    The longer tags thread goes on, the more embarrassing the attacks on Connery are.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    I'm trying to look beyond all the above and simply focus on that Connery was a very good Bond. Once again, if he decides not to participate, it's his decision
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2012 Posts: 12,837
    PeterGreenhill wrote:
    More fool the UK Government to award a knighthood to a person who openly campaigns for Scotland to be independent. I don't blame him for accepting it.

    He doesn't "tell" anybody anything. He is a UK citizen living abroad and has a right to express his political views via the media if asked.

    He has said that he'll return to Scotland to live if it gains independence.

    <img src=http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01358/Sean-Connery_1358755c.jpg>;

    Fair enough they shouldn't have given it to him but if he's that bothered about it he shouldn't have excepted it. I honestly doubt he'll return to Scotland if it gains independance, but if he does good for him. He's living abroad because he's a tax exile.

    But back on topic: he doesn't have to go to the premiere if he doesn't want to. The end.
    SaintMark wrote:
    And as far as the knighthood goes, he deserved better than the folks who bought it.

    That I agree with.
  • Jones_The_BondJones_The_Bond
    Posts: 344
    To be fair to Connery, if (although I think it unlikely) Scotland votes for independence, the plan is to retain the Queen as Head of State. He would probably see the honour as emanating from the Queen of Scots. There is no way in the world he would return to live in an independent Scotland though. No way in the world.

    Anyway, great pity that he won't show, but it is his choice at the end of the day. I'd like to hear some confirmation that Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan will definitely be joining Daniel Craig for the celebrations.
  • EllisEllis
    Posts: 224
    I think what may tick off some people is that this would be an opportunity to get photos of all the Bonds together.... photos for the ages.

    I suspect the others will all show up. I hope that someone can separate Pierce and George before something gets out of hand, though.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,570
    PeterGreenhill wrote:

    He has said that he'll return to Scotland to live if it gains independence.

    He does say that, but of course he wouldn't actually do it. He knows it won't happen in his lifetime, and if it did the climate would not suit him any more.
    Basically he is on safe ground saying that. If he felt as fiercely patriotic as he states, then he would go back anyway and fight their cause.

    Paying UK stax isn't so bad. I'm sure more Englishmen have contributed to his wealth than Scotsmen anyway ;-)
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited September 2012 Posts: 13,894
    They could do a Tom Baker and have a wax staute in place of the real Connery. ;)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    In the interests of balance and much as I love him when was the last time Rog paid tax in this country?

    Or did I miss us invading Gstaad and claiming it as a principality?
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,506
    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    In the interests of balance and much as I love him when was the last time Rog paid tax in this country?

    Or did I miss us invading Gstaad and claiming it as a principality?

    With all his charity work for UNICEF? I would let him off!
  • TracyTracy
    Posts: 1,639
    Demanding moore and moore.....when will it be enough *chuckles*

    .....and Connery was mean to mr. Trebek , don't forget that , lulz :D
  • Jones_The_BondJones_The_Bond
    Posts: 344
    Also, Moore isn't urging the break-up of the Union from a different continent.

    Still love them both though.
  • DRush76DRush76
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    Connery does not have to attend to satisfy the Bond fans. He can do whatever the hell he wants. All of us are just going to have to live with the disappointment.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,506
    DRush76 wrote:


    Connery does not have to attend to satisfy the Bond fans. He can do whatever the hell he wants. All of us are just going to have to live with the disappointment.

    I am sure we all will seeing as he stayed away from the 40th Anniversary too.
  • petergreenhill5petergreenhill5
    Posts: 824
    DRush76 wrote:


    Connery does not have to attend to satisfy the Bond fans. He can do whatever the hell he wants. All of us are just going to have to live with the disappointment.


    Completely agree!

    <img src=//i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01358/Sean-Connery_1358755c.jpg>
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    Posts: 3,144
    Can we please move on and leave the old chap alone he is who he is he has done what he
    Has done and was the start of things to come life goes on ! and so must we
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    Lazenby was a poor Bond actor in a great Bond film .Fact
    Also all this enthusiam for Bond's 50th anniversary has made forget about Connery to some extent what with all the actors seeming to be willing to participate.
  • TPM007TPM007
    Posts: 183
    Gotta say, it's rather annoying he didn't even participate in the Everything or Nothing documentary - if they managed to get everyone else... would have made the film a bit more complete
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    LeChiffre wrote:
    Lazenby was a poor Bond actor in a great Bond film .Fact
    Also all this enthusiam for Bond's 50th anniversary has made forget about Connery to some extent what with all the actors seeming to be willing to participate.
    Please. George would do it if you threw a penny in the room, just as long as their were scantily clad women for him to get off on and someone to tell him his hair looks pretty.

    8-|
  • ConmooreConmoore
    Posts: 5
    There seems to be a lot of apologists for Connery in this thread from those that think the man is untouchabe and can do no wrong. I knew deep down long before any of these events were planned that Connery wouldn't bother to show up to any 50th Anniversary celebration, based on his lack of apperances for other Bond celebrations. I don't buy the age excuse, especially since the Connery fans (of which I am, BTW) keep mentioning he is 82, but ignore that Moore is almost 85 and that he has been seen recently in NY at the Stock Exchange and at the US Open appearing to be in fine physical shape.

    How is it that he is the only Bond actor to complain about "not being paid well"? If the producers were so stingy, then why haven't the other actors come out and said so as well? Sean Connery may be entitled to not go to the 50th special, but I'm also entitled to call him out for being an arrogant snob and a classless human being. We all know his reasons for not attending, and they have nothing to do with his age, physical well-being, or the travel distance. I love Sean's movies and like him as a Bond, but as a Bond actor, thank the lord that Roger Moore exists (who made just as good of films), because as a person, he is a million times the character that Sean Connery is.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I am so critical of Sean because I love him so much. I wouldn't bother otherwise.
  • TracyTracy
    Posts: 1,639
    Now there's rumors going around that he may have dementia , if that's the case I'd cut him slack for missing 50th anniversary , important as it might be :(
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
    Posts: 4,813
    I certainly hope that isn't true-- I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
  • 007salfordstan007salfordstan
    Posts: 22
    PeterGreenhill wrote:
    Connery made six Bond films for Eon, several of them by common consent among the very best in the series. Connery owes a lot to the role of Bond but equally the series owes a major debt of gratitude to him. His performance as Bond was a massive factor in kick starting the series and giving it the momentum to see it through 23 films and 50 years. Connery consistently tops best Bond polls and for very good reason.

    Sean Connery owes us nothing. He gave us everything back in the 60s/early 70s and then moved on.Successive generations of fans have been able to continue enjoying his performance as Bond.

    I have never met Sean Connery and don't know what sort of person he is. However,at the age of 82 he has earned the right to attend or not attend these events as he chooses and I believe that we fans should respect his decision.

    Well well said indeed couldnt agree more.
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