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  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    Some of us are not making it easy for me to calculate the standings. "Bubble films?" How in the name of Blofeld's cat am I supposed to deal with bubble films? Count 'em? Not count 'em? Use 'em to was my car??? :((
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Well, after a day I have had 7 responses from all non-fans. The results are not what I expected.. I'll list them here. The first two letters are just for me to distinguish them, they often replied a couple of times. The respondents were both male and female.

    SA: 1 : OHMSS - 2 : Skyfall - 3 : Casino Royale - 4 : you only live twice - 5 : thunderball
    MB: Goldfinger, Goldeneye, Skyfall and SPECTRE
    WL: Dr. No, FRWL, Moonraker, GE and CR
    PH: GF, Dr. No and CR
    HD: LALD & TMWTGG
    FB: All with Sean Connory & Roger Moore, don't care for the rest
    EO: OHMSS (considering Moore Bond a psycho because of the jokes, Timothy Dalton as the most sexy. Don't know if that's an argument for making his films 'classics')

    These results are rather hard to tally, but some deductions are safe:

    Seans' films score high, as may have been expected, but OHMSS does score well too. Films I hadn't expected would make it were Moonraker and Golden Gun (double checked on that one, he really considers it a classic).
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Interesting Rossy (another of the KTBEU 'originals' like me btw)....
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Yep, still going strong, and good to see you back @barryt!
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Thanks pal...not many of the 'originals' ,as i now call us ,left,but members like you make Bond the man he is Rossy !
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    @BeatlesSansEarmuffs, what is a bubble film? You lost me. :-?

    @CommanderRoss, that is interesting! Thanks for sharing. I think OHMSS only got 2 votes though. And one person just voted their favorites it seems ... they really think all of those are classics (ALL of Sean's and Roger's)? Well okay, it is their opinion after all.

    It's fun to get a peek at what the more "general" public think of as classic Bond films, not just us. I thought perhaps Moonraker would be on there, but Golden Gun is a bit of a surprise. I am a lifelong fan and I remember clearly being annoyed with it when I left the theater.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    No there is only one definition of Original for this thread. But we all use the term loosely in regular conversation, so I realize that may be confusing to people (esp. those new to this thread). I'll post the definition for what it means for this thread in a second ...
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    This thread is called the "Originals" thread because of our founder, SirHenry. :>

    I know we all use the word "originals" and such in regular conversation, as Bond fans, and that is fine for all of our conversations. But just to clarify the term as in pertains to this particular thread, it means the following, as stated by SirHenry in his opening paragraph of this thread, years ago:
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    This one is dedicated to the fans on this Forum who saw their first Bond movie starring Sean Connery in the theater. Fans who saw OHMSS as their first Bond movie in the theater can also join in, as you no doubt saw the Connery films as well during that time. The point of the thread is that it is geared largely to those of us around 50 and older who were the original fans of Bond and have witnessed the changes of lead actor and general direction over the years.
    *****************

    So for certain things we do on this thread, we poll the Originals (as per above definition) for their opinion. If you saw a Bond film starring Sean (or George Lazenby) in the theater during its original release, then you are counted as an Original on this thread. At the same time, we want ranging, interesting, and fun discussion from all. And everybody can add their own reviews and lists. We keep track of the Originals' rankings and lists, polls, etc. separately.

    Now we are listing Classic Bond Films. There were will 2 final lists. Those of the Originals (per above) and those with everybody else who is participating here (including the Originals in that one, too).

    So all are welcome, keeping with the spirit and tone of this thread. Have fun! And thanks for joining us.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    To be honest, I feel all Bond movies are classics. There isn't one that wouldn't have that distinct Bond feel.

    QOS is this century's FRWL

    I'll never understand the little love QOS gets. Even if the editing is hurting some action scenes.

    TMWTGG is a true classic too. One of the best villains ever and the best weapon ever.

    Every actor is classic too. Not one that could even remotely be called a failure.
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    @4Ever: @pachazo (and then @Birdleson) refered to films that were "on the bubble." I'm saying I'm not sure whether or not to score that as a vote or an almost (but not quite) vote. Probably the latter.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    I appreciate every film and every Bond actor (grudgingly one, but okay).
    But we are putting the word "classic" here to designate ones we feel will stand the test of time, that are great films and deserve special status. So I cannot say all are of that high a caliber.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    I need them to explain "bubble" then, @Beatles - if they mean not quite cutting it, then it will not count. LALD is my "on the bubble" film then. But it won't count in my list of classics.
    OK, I just re-read their comments and I assume they mean "almost" .... so those should not be counted. Close but no cigar. ;)
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    @CommanderRoss & @barryt007: if I recall your comments elsewhere in this forum correctly, you two both qualify as Originals by SirHenry's definition. Am I correct? If so, great; if not, that's cool, your contributions are still greatly appreciated. @Birdleson & @chrisisall, I believe you two are also Originals by that definition. Who else qualifies? I'm going to have enough trouble tabulating our lists as is, any help any other voters can give me (like self-identifying as Original or Current Fans) will be gladly accepted.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    Yes you are an Original, Birdleson. :)

    I just made it; DAF was my first Bond film in the cinema ... although I think my parents took me to Thunderball, but I am honestly too hazy about that in my memory
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    @Birdie: Nice avatar BTW. I've been watching some "Danger Man" episodes on YouTube & they're awesome. "The Prisoner" is of course highly recommended & also on YouTube. And not for the first time, I highly recommend Patrick McGoohan in "The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh."
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    My first Bond at the cinema was OCTOPUSSY (in 1984) but all I remember is having a huge crush on Maud Adams after the film.

    The second was AVTAK which I only went to see because of Duran Duran's A View To A Kill which to this day is the greatest song ever made (for me). And of course, the title sequence to this day is the best of them all.

    My "real" first Bond experience was The Living Daylights. And that was a life-changing experience.
  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    I don't know if I have a set definition for classics, but I think my top tier will do in a pinch, and it goes GF, FRWL, CR, OHMSS, GE, SF, TSWLM, DN. That's a pretty consensus list, I know, but it hits just about everything I like in Bond. There's the original masterworks from the 60s, modern ones that got Bond's mojo back after a slump, and TSWLM, which manages to stand in both categories at once. It's popular enough to leave out Dalton, but hardcore enough to include Majesty's.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    4EverBonded wrote: »
    I just made it; DAF was my first Bond film in the cinema

    \m/
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Looking forward to your list of Classic Bond films, @chrisisall. :)
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    Yes with only a solid core in all; definitely.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Expect 23 different lists.

    Oh man it's late...
    DN is the only real classic right now....
    22 other lists to follow.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    Seriously, let's try to wrap up with our final list of Classic Bond films by end of day 29th, if we can.

    We will then have the Originals list and the 2nd List (nonOriginals, in addition to Originals).

    After that, which should be interesting enough in itself, I'd like us to rank that chosen list. And that does not have to be everybody, but at least the Originals to do so. Then we can look at how many Originals chose Goldfinger as #1, etc. I'd like that - so we would have a list of Classic Bond films, in ranking order, by Originals on this thread.

    But first step, please everybody get us your list of Classic Bond films. That is the current step. Thanks! :)>-

  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
    edited August 2016 Posts: 3,564
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I'll try to locate it.

    Might be kind of hard. The Scarecrow of Romney Marsh was first broadcast in the USA on the Sunday Night Walt Disney show in the early '60s, although I've since seen it at least once with Sir Lew Grade's ITW logo attached. Anyway, Disney still owns the rights & they're pretty stingy about letting much more than pieces of it out on places like YouTube. Here's the theme song & some of the scarier parts of the 3 episodes that were shown back in the day. Probably the creepiest stuff ever shown on the Disney show back when I was just a wee lad. That's Patrick McGoohan under the Scarecrow's mask & you should recognize someone else from the Bond films in this brief snippet...



    Happy hunting for the full storyline. Maybe it's on Netflix or something, I dunno. If you like Disney's version of Zorro you should enjoy this!

  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    YouTube offers most of the first episode in pieces -- Parts 1 and 3-6, missing only part 2. I could only find Parts 1 & 2 of the second episode & nothing of the third. Still, it's enough to give you a sense of the storyline, and McGoohan is very much the coolest guy onscreen, both as the Scarecrow and as the Reverend Dr. Syn.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    @Beatles, I'm afraid I wasn't even a glimmer in my father's eye when Connery's run was over, so I don't add up to be an original in @SirHenry's definition.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Yes, @CommanderRoss, but we still want your input always and your list of Classic Bonds for the 2nd list. :) Thanks!
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Well, I don't think my list will differ from the one posted a few pages back, but the absolute classics, in my eyes, are as follows:
    Dr. No
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live And Let Die
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall

    Now this is on the basis of how well the films are made combined with my understanding of public perseption AND how much they reflect Fleming's material. It's not my top 10, as Goldfinger wouldn't have made the cut and QoS would.

    But, considering the responses I had on my FB request, I'd add (and confuse the discussion here) by mentioning films that may not be classics, but certainly are iconic:

    You Only Live Twice
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker

    These films are all very well known to the public, not because of their quality per sé, but because they are stand-out films that are very much Bond to the public eye. The cinematic Bond, one could argue.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    Oh I want your Facebook list separate, I forgot about that in regards to our own lists. Thanks. :) Your own list will stay on the group list, for nonOriginals/Originals mix. I appreciate you confirming your final list of Classic Bonds. Aren't you a little young to be a Commander, by the way? ;)
  • vzokvzok
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    My first Bond was DAF, so I think I just qualify amongst the youngest of the oldest.

    Dr No
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live And Let Die
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    Casino Royale

    There's a couple on here that aren't Top 10 for me.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited August 2016 Posts: 12,459
    Yes, you qualify as an Original for this thread if you saw DAF in a theater during its original run (like I did), thanks. :)
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