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Pierce Brosnan or Daniel Craig (poll added)

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I'm with you right there, @timmer. :D
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    timmer wrote: »
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    timmer wrote: »
    Broz or Craig? Hmmmm.
    I'll rank them on their boozing.

    Broz pounding back straight vodka shots, and holding it together, like Book-Bond, beats Craig's boozy rambling over girly drinks on the plane.

    Whats girlier about Vodka + Gin versus just Vodka? Is it the fortified wine?

    EDIT: If we're going by "Book-Bond", those girly drinks on the plane are straight from the first novel, ingredient for ingredient :P

    I realize I'm telling you things you already know, just want to clarify your comment :D


    Ok I take back the girlie, but Broz still wins with Vodka from the bottle. Plus Craig babbling a lot of nonsense. Broz's drunk talk I thought had more heft.

    These are important discussions. :P
    bondjames wrote: »
    I've reflected on it, and I think it's just Brosnan's acting in these instances and how it appeared to me. Or maybe because of his refined appearance. Like he had to be treated delicately.
    But you're not wrong. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's there. There was always something a little off about the good Broz's performance.
    Mind you I don't really care. He maintains his mojo in the films. Broz was always on mission.
    He saved the world a few times, and I do salute him for his service.
    Enjoy retirment with ...hmm..pick a Broz Bond girl. Christmas Jones! :P
    But I am serious. That's who I'd ring up.

    Fair enough!
    :)>-
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    To me, there are four films that capture Bond rather perfectly. DN, FRWL, TLD & LTK.
    All 'small' Bond movies, all limited in overall scope but big on character.
    Brosnan was great at the smooth & dashing Bond, and Craig is great at the tough & troubled Bond, but IMHO the days of the occasional 'small' non-event-driven Bonds are over.
    That said, and on topic, for BIG Bonds, TND was awesome, and SP looks to easily be its equal.
    I love both Pierce & Dan.
  • Ottofuse8Ottofuse8
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    Seriously, Why do fans hate TWINE so much??? Sure it has its problems, but its like 10-12th best for me.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I love TWINE. It's Brosnan's OHMSS. :)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I love TWINE. It's Brosnan's OHMSS. :)
    I agree.
  • GHettoblasterGHettoblaster New York, USA
    edited February 2015 Posts: 15
    Pierce isn't close to Craig in my opinion. If you love simplistic plots, over the top gadgets and the whole office showing up for a sex scene at the end, then Moore or Brosnan are your guys. Craig by far wins this vote if you are fan of the character that Ian Fleming created.
  • GHettoblasterGHettoblaster New York, USA
    edited February 2015 Posts: 15
    Yes, a true statement. Goldeneye was good, but at the same time incredibly overrated. Also, I don't think his acting made Goldeneye great , it was just a good movie. He never seemed comfortable playing Bond, something he admitted himself a few years ago. His other three were awful movies. I have them in my collection for completion purposes only. If everyone is willing to burn their copies, I'm game.
  • GHettoblasterGHettoblaster New York, USA
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    GHettoblaster wrote: »
    Pierce is the worst. If you love terrible plots, terrible acting, shitty gadgets and the whole office showing up for a sex scene at the end, then Moore or Brosnan are your guys. Craig by far wins this vote if you are even a remote fan of the character that Ian Flemming created.

    I am simply surprised when someone immediately stakes there identity here by bashing the Hell out of one or more of the Bond actors. Rather than start out on the "intro" thread, or with your rankings, to tell us why you love the Bond phenomena, that was your first post. We've had a few lately that have seemed far more interested in expressing their hatred for the fellows you mention than in any joy that they have received from the films or books. Maybe you're simply answering the poll and I'm overly sensitive, but it seems quite an aggressive entrance.

    Another new guy calls himself CraigsnotBond. Of all the aspects of the franchise to admire or make an homage to ,he has to use his very title to tell us that he questions one of the Bond actor's legitimacy. Not that we don't all have serious opinions about such things, but to label that as primarily who you are in regards to this character. Rather than something you (in the familiar) love.
    Birdleson wrote: »
    GHettoblaster wrote: »
    Pierce is the worst. If you love terrible plots, terrible acting, shitty gadgets and the whole office showing up for a sex scene at the end, then Moore or Brosnan are your guys. Craig by far wins this vote if you are even a remote fan of the character that Ian Flemming created.

    I am simply surprised when someone immediately stakes there identity here by bashing the Hell out of one or more of the Bond actors. Rather than start out on the "intro" thread, or with your rankings, to tell us why you love the Bond phenomena, that was your first post. We've had a few lately that have seemed far more interested in expressing their hatred for the fellows you mention than in any joy that they have received from the films or books. Maybe you're simply answering the poll and I'm overly sensitive, but it seems quite an aggressive entrance.

    Another new guy calls himself CraigsnotBond. Of all the aspects of the franchise to admire or make an homage to ,he has to use his very moniker to tell us that he questions one of the Bond actor's legitimacy. Not that we don't all have serious opinions about such things, but to label that as primarily who you are in regards to this character? Rather than something you (in the familiar) love.

    FIrst of all, I posted in the intro section right after this, something I had not seen when I signed up. Secondly, this was bound to come up sooner or later and that's my opinion in a nutshell (I'm surely going to expand it over time). Maybe my use of the word "awful" rubbed you the wrong way, but I literally cannot watch his final three movies ever again, just can't stomach it man I think they were that bad. I'm not on here to just bash the Brosnan and Moore eras but I have a very strong opinions about those eras and I won't hide it when it comes up.
  • GHettoblasterGHettoblaster New York, USA
    edited February 2015 Posts: 15
    Now that I've re-read it, I came off like a bit of a jerk on that first comment so my apologies, I will word my opinion more elegantly next time ( I am going to edit it to word it nicer). I haven't gone through the trolls you guys have dealt with on here but I clash with them all the time on the comments of the 007 Facebook page, there's some guy on there that constantly refers to Daniel Craig as Vladmir Putin.
  • JCRendleJCRendle
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    GHettoblaster wrote: »
    Now that I've re-read it, I came off like a bit of a jerk on that first comment so my apologies, I will word my opinion more elegantly next time ( I am going to edit it to word it nicer). I haven't gone through the trolls you guys have dealt with on here but I clash with them all the time on the comments of the 007 Facebook page, there's some guy on there that constantly refers to Daniel Craig as Vladmir Putin.

    Sounds like our old "friend" Ml94
  • GHettoblasterGHettoblaster New York, USA
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    Glad to be here, hard to find people willing to discuss James Bond 24/7
  • GHettoblasterGHettoblaster New York, USA
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    JCRendle wrote: »
    GHettoblaster wrote: »
    Now that I've re-read it, I came off like a bit of a jerk on that first comment so my apologies, I will word my opinion more elegantly next time ( I am going to edit it to word it nicer). I haven't gone through the trolls you guys have dealt with on here but I clash with them all the time on the comments of the 007 Facebook page, there's some guy on there that constantly refers to Daniel Craig as Vladmir Putin.

    Sounds like our old "friend" Ml94
    If MI94 made any references to being obsessed with Jason from the Friday the 13th horror films then it was def the same guy.
  • mirandafrostmirandafrost
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    I'll take Pierce Brosnan. ;)
  • rokoroko
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    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Craig. No contest. A much better actor and far more convincing in the action scenes. I did enjoy Brosnan as Bond but unfortunately he was given 2 of the worst films in the series TWINE and DAD. I remember being quite surprised when I heard he was not coming back for a fifth and was certainly sceptical when Craig appeared at the press conference for CR. I think Brosnan deserved a much better send off than DAD but glad that Craig is now the one driving the Aston...

    Second. GE had potential (hell, even the very beginning of DAD did!), and I think over the years they could have given Brosnan more of an opportunity to show off his acting skills. People say he is a much better actor than the Bond films allow him to show. I wouldn't know, but in any case it's a shame that the producers decided at the time that emotional depth wasnt what Bond needed.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    As much as I disliked the Brosnan era I can't deny it revitalised the brand from a popularity stand point.

    Pierce definitely bought Bond back to a wider audience, Babs & MGW had just taken over after having had Cubby run the show and they needed to make sure they could deliver.

    I'm under no illusions that Pierce's run allowed us to get to the Craig era, it needed to be pushed to the level DAD got to, to bring it back to earth again. DAD painted them into a corner and repositioning CR into a veteran Bond story would not have been the way to go.

    Craig was a gamble for them but one that paid of spectacularly, his take on the character is likely to influence the next Bond and we won't be going back to the Brosnan or Moore model for sometime yet. The next actor will want more of what Craig is doing. Actors who wouldn't have though of playing the role will have a different view now and that is all down to Daniel Craig.

  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
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    Pierce Brosnan all the way.He is James Bond, Suave sophisticated secret agent with a license to kill.

    Daniel Craig does not play James Bond.He just plays an unlikeable low life thug.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Pierce Brosnan all the way.He is James Bond, Suave sophisticated secret agent with a license to kill.

    Daniel Craig does not play James Bond.He just plays an unlikeable low life thug.

    I have to agree to disagree on DC I am afraid. I think he is fantastic in the part.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Pierce Brosnan all the way.He is James Bond, Suave sophisticated secret agent with a license to kill.

    Daniel Craig does not play James Bond.He just plays an unlikeable low life thug.


    Come up with new material.
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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Have to agree with @Murdock. Criticizing various Bond actors/not being a blind worshipper is one thing, trashing Craig in nearly every comment in a variety of different threads is another.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    If one can't find a good movie or Craig performance in at least one of the three he's done now, one must be operating on blind hatred for its own sake IMO.
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    edited February 2015 Posts: 1,021
    Murdock wrote: »
    Poor Brosnan. All he wanted to do is entertain Bond fans and this is how he's treated. I need a martini.
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    I always thought this scene and the scene with Dr Kaufman in TND were 2 of the best sequences in all of the Brosnan films.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Poor Brosnan. All he wanted to do is entertain Bond fans and this is how he's treated. I need a martini.
    bond_hotel.jpg

    I always thought this scene and the scene with Dr Kaufman in TND were 2 of the best sequences in all of the Brosnan films.
    Yay Broz love! :-bd
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I wasn't sold by Brosnan but I can't deny he wasn't popular and most likely bought more people to the series.

    If I was going for Brosnan best scene bearing in mind I don't like any of his films, it would be the banker scene from TWINE, pity we get that ridiculous Thames boat chase after, just the that on it's own would have made for a great PTS full stop!

  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    edited February 2015 Posts: 1,021
    Murdock wrote: »
    nobodydoesitbetter wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Poor Brosnan. All he wanted to do is entertain Bond fans and this is how he's treated. I need a martini.
    bond_hotel.jpg

    I always thought this scene and the scene with Dr Kaufman in TND were 2 of the best sequences in all of the Brosnan films.
    Yay Broz love! :-bd

    I have always enjoyed Brosnan as BOND. I think he was let down by poor material after TND. Those 2 scenes i mentioned above are for me the highlights of the Brosnan era and some of the best moments in the franchise. Forget all the machine gun action this is where I thought Brosnan was best. He should have pushed for better material. TND is one of my favourite Bond films. I rate it quite highly. Its the best Brosnan film in my opinion. Much better than GE. Brosnan got a raw deal. TWINE was dull and the action was boring. DAD was just a middle finger to the franchise from the director. For that I blame the directors not Brosnan.

  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I'll just say again that, while I might prefer Craig, I, too, love Broz, and always will.
    Although my favourite film of his is Goldeneye, definitely.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    I wasn't sold by Brosnan but I can't deny he wasn't popular and most likely bought more people to the series.

    If I was going for Brosnan best scene bearing in mind I don't like any of his films, it would be the banker scene from TWINE, pity we get that ridiculous Thames boat chase after, just the that on it's own would have made for a great PTS full stop!

    So true. That was a good scene.
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    If one can't find a good movie or Craig performance in at least one of the three he's done now, one must be operating on blind hatred for its own sake IMO.

    Well my opinion which i am entitled to is that he is not a good Bond AT ALL.You think hes great and thats cool.

    I can respect Casino Royale as a well made action film despite my dislike of Craig in the role.

    However, its been downhill since then.QOS and SF were terrible films in my opinion.

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2015 Posts: 23,883
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    QOS and SF were terrible films in my opinion.

    Sacrilege. #-o
  • ChangChang
    edited February 2015 Posts: 107
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    I wasn't sold by Brosnan but I can't deny he wasn't popular and most likely bought more people to the series.

    If I was going for Brosnan best scene bearing in mind I don't like any of his films, it would be the banker scene from TWINE, pity we get that ridiculous Thames boat chase after, just the that on it's own would have made for a great PTS full stop!

    So true. That was a good scene.



    This for me was the highlight of the whole Brosnan era too. Then immediately into the Maria-Conchito-Alonso-lookalike chase killed it.

    Also would prefer Craig and QOS hate confuses me, it was better than Skyfall.




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