On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: Remastered and Expanded Limited Edition (La-La Land Records)

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  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    nsb1234 wrote: »
    ggl007 wrote: »
    Not really "on topic" but maybe you can answer. Why was there a pause between the release of The World is not Enough (2019) and Tomorrow Never Dies (2022)?

    I don't know, but we got Arnold's score to Stargate released between them.

    Neil

    Just curious, thanks. Maybe the release of NTTD had something to do?

    I think this is what I read at the time.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited July 22 Posts: 4,454
    @Torgeirtrap , I ordered from the 007 store. Final tally for a delivery to Germany:
    2 CD set: 46,95 €
    Delivery: 10,95 €
    Expense-allowance: 7,50 €
    Import tax: 9,32 €
    Total: 74,72 €

    I musht be dreaming... but I want to believe the purchase is worth it.
  • Posts: 18,050
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap , I ordered from the 007 store. Final tally for a delivery to Germany:
    2 CD set: 46,95 €
    Delivery: 10,95 €
    Expense-allowance: 7,50 €
    Import tax: 9,32 €
    Total: 74,72 €

    I musht be dreaming... but I want to believe the purchase is worth it.

    That's almost the same as the order total for me then, @zebrafish. Only the delivery and taxes look marginally different. I certainly hope the purchase will be worth it in the end – and that I haven't forgot any taxes that might apply! The last update from the Royal Mail is that the package has left the UK, so hopefully it won't take many days before it arrives.

    I must look for a cheaper purchase next time around though. I can't really justify spending £67/77€ on a 2 disc CD release, even if it's the most complete release of one of my favourite film scores.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
    edited July 22 Posts: 7,228
    nsb1234 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Questions, more questions!

    Do the film and album versions of "This Never Happened to the Other Fella" and "Over and Out" differ only in the amount of music they have (not to mention the fade out in the latter track), or do they also use different takes in places?

    The last 30 seconds or so of "This Never Happened To The Other Fella" is different between the film and album. No performance cuts in "Over And Out" but it's made up of two cues (14m1A and 14m2) and they are forever joined together on the album reel.

    Neil

    P.S. Now that I think about it, "This Never Happened To The Other Fella" is comprised of 1m2, 1m3 and 1m4 and they are combined on the album reel, too.

    Thank you. As I understand it then, Over and Out uses two cues, and both film and album use the same takes of those cues. And This Never Happened to the Other Fella uses three cues, and the last part of the track has different takes in film and album.
  • nsb1234nsb1234 Sunny California
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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,697
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap , I ordered from the 007 store. Final tally for a delivery to Germany:
    2 CD set: 46,95 €
    Delivery: 10,95 €
    Expense-allowance: 7,50 €
    Import tax: 9,32 €
    Total: 74,72 €

    I musht be dreaming... but I want to believe the purchase is worth it.

    That's almost the same as the order total for me then, @zebrafish. Only the delivery and taxes look marginally different. I certainly hope the purchase will be worth it in the end – and that I haven't forgot any taxes that might apply! The last update from the Royal Mail is that the package has left the UK, so hopefully it won't take many days before it arrives.

    I must look for a cheaper purchase next time around though. I can't really justify spending £67/77€ on a 2 disc CD release, even if it's the most complete release of one of my favourite film scores.

    Belgium's import tax is considerably more expensive then, more than 30 euros... bringing the total up to more than a 100 euros. It's my 4th LaLaLand purchase, after TND, TWINE and LTK. Really love them, though unfortunately I have to single out the ones I want the most. TND and TWINE I did not own before (no 2003 releases), LTK (no 2003 release either, but I have an earlier copy) and OHMSS are just absolute favourites.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,646
    For me, Moonraker is essential. I love OHMSS, but MR is still the top of the tree in terms of these releases for my money.
  • Posts: 18,050
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap , I ordered from the 007 store. Final tally for a delivery to Germany:
    2 CD set: 46,95 €
    Delivery: 10,95 €
    Expense-allowance: 7,50 €
    Import tax: 9,32 €
    Total: 74,72 €

    I musht be dreaming... but I want to believe the purchase is worth it.

    That's almost the same as the order total for me then, @zebrafish. Only the delivery and taxes look marginally different. I certainly hope the purchase will be worth it in the end – and that I haven't forgot any taxes that might apply! The last update from the Royal Mail is that the package has left the UK, so hopefully it won't take many days before it arrives.

    I must look for a cheaper purchase next time around though. I can't really justify spending £67/77€ on a 2 disc CD release, even if it's the most complete release of one of my favourite film scores.

    Belgium's import tax is considerably more expensive then, more than 30 euros... bringing the total up to more than a 100 euros. It's my 4th LaLaLand purchase, after TND, TWINE and LTK. Really love them, though unfortunately I have to single out the ones I want the most. TND and TWINE I did not own before (no 2003 releases), LTK (no 2003 release either, but I have an earlier copy) and OHMSS are just absolute favourites.

    Ouch! You purchased the album from the 007 Store as well?

    This is my first purchase of a LaLaLand release. I want to get more of these (one of them being TWINE – a favourite of mine), but I have to be patient should I want to afford these. The albums themselves are reasonably priced I think, considering all the work that goes into making them, but shipping and customs makes it very difficult to justify purchasing.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited July 23 Posts: 4,454
    Think of the purchase as if buying a vintage car: It may be expensive, but it's yours and gives you tons of pleasure (hopefully), and when you think you do not need it anymore, sell online once out of print. You will get your money back and possibly more.
  • Posts: 80
    I don’t tend to buy stuff with the intention of selling it on later, but in the couple of cases where I have ended up selling expanded soundtracks such as these (usually because I found I just wasn’t listening to it as much as I thought I might), they generally shoot up in price once they’re out of print. You’ll absolutely turn a profit.

    As for the subject at hand, I’ve been dipping in and out since it arrived. Mostly the previously unreleased cues. There really is some wonderful stuff added.
  • BondBarry007BondBarry007 London UK
    Posts: 14
    Got to say collecting the Expanded 007 scores is not a cheap hobby but 150% worth it , purely for the fantastic work that Neil S Bulk is doing on behalf of LLL Records & also because it’s really the only untapped area of the 007 franchise that’s not been fully explored before the music & also because these soundtracks need a proper archive 🎥🎥👍😎
  • Posts: 18,050
    zebrafish wrote: »
    Think of the purchase as if buying a vintage car: It may be expensive, but it's yours and gives you tons of pleasure (hopefully), and when you think you do not need it anymore, sell online once out of print. You will get your money back and possibly more.

    Hopefully I never have to sell it, but that's a good point. It's one of those cases where "limited edition" actually means it!
    Got to say collecting the Expanded 007 scores is not a cheap hobby but 150% worth it , purely for the fantastic work that Neil S Bulk is doing on behalf of LLL Records & also because it’s really the only untapped area of the 007 franchise that’s not been fully explored before the music & also because these soundtracks need a proper archive 🎥🎥👍😎

    Definitely! It's absolutely fantastic that we can get physical releases of expanded scores in 2025. Can't stress enough how important these (complete) scores are to us Bond fans.
  • What does The Capu mean for the track where Bond and Drago meet?
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,661
    What does The Capu mean for the track where Bond and Drago meet?

    Are you referring to the song title? "Capu" is the Corsican word for "head".
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,697
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap , I ordered from the 007 store. Final tally for a delivery to Germany:
    2 CD set: 46,95 €
    Delivery: 10,95 €
    Expense-allowance: 7,50 €
    Import tax: 9,32 €
    Total: 74,72 €

    I musht be dreaming... but I want to believe the purchase is worth it.

    That's almost the same as the order total for me then, @zebrafish. Only the delivery and taxes look marginally different. I certainly hope the purchase will be worth it in the end – and that I haven't forgot any taxes that might apply! The last update from the Royal Mail is that the package has left the UK, so hopefully it won't take many days before it arrives.

    I must look for a cheaper purchase next time around though. I can't really justify spending £67/77€ on a 2 disc CD release, even if it's the most complete release of one of my favourite film scores.

    Belgium's import tax is considerably more expensive then, more than 30 euros... bringing the total up to more than a 100 euros. It's my 4th LaLaLand purchase, after TND, TWINE and LTK. Really love them, though unfortunately I have to single out the ones I want the most. TND and TWINE I did not own before (no 2003 releases), LTK (no 2003 release either, but I have an earlier copy) and OHMSS are just absolute favourites.

    Ouch! You purchased the album from the 007 Store as well?

    Yep, I did. :)
  • Posts: 18,050
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    zebrafish wrote: »
    @Torgeirtrap , I ordered from the 007 store. Final tally for a delivery to Germany:
    2 CD set: 46,95 €
    Delivery: 10,95 €
    Expense-allowance: 7,50 €
    Import tax: 9,32 €
    Total: 74,72 €

    I musht be dreaming... but I want to believe the purchase is worth it.

    That's almost the same as the order total for me then, @zebrafish. Only the delivery and taxes look marginally different. I certainly hope the purchase will be worth it in the end – and that I haven't forgot any taxes that might apply! The last update from the Royal Mail is that the package has left the UK, so hopefully it won't take many days before it arrives.

    I must look for a cheaper purchase next time around though. I can't really justify spending £67/77€ on a 2 disc CD release, even if it's the most complete release of one of my favourite film scores.

    Belgium's import tax is considerably more expensive then, more than 30 euros... bringing the total up to more than a 100 euros. It's my 4th LaLaLand purchase, after TND, TWINE and LTK. Really love them, though unfortunately I have to single out the ones I want the most. TND and TWINE I did not own before (no 2003 releases), LTK (no 2003 release either, but I have an earlier copy) and OHMSS are just absolute favourites.

    Ouch! You purchased the album from the 007 Store as well?

    Yep, I did. :)

    Will think buying directly from La-La Land Records would have been cheaper shipping to Belgium too, then! I'm definitely checking both the LLL and the 007 Store before buying next time around.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
    Posts: 7,228
    Finally got my copy. I can now check out for myself all those things I was asking about. But from what I've listened to so far, I'll just say that this

    mtm wrote: »
    Prelude for Guitar and Strings is ridiculous. Imagine writing something that beautiful just for a bit of background music, and then leaving it off the soundtrack album. Or never even using it again (as far as I'm aware).

    is the absolute truth.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 113
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Finally got my copy. I can now check out for myself all those things I was asking about. But from what I've listened to so far, I'll just say that this

    mtm wrote: »
    Prelude for Guitar and Strings is ridiculous. Imagine writing something that beautiful just for a bit of background music, and then leaving it off the soundtrack album. Or never even using it again (as far as I'm aware).

    is the absolute truth.

    Seconded,here's a thought does the film use only around the first 30 seconds repeated to around a minute or so in order to avoid hearing the strings because on screen no orchestra is evident just the guitar player,anybody have thoughts on this?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
    Posts: 7,228
    What does The Capu mean for the track where Bond and Drago meet?

    Are you referring to the song title? "Capu" is the Corsican word for "head".
    And it comes from the novel.

    New music aside, this presentation of the OHMSS score, being not only in chronological order but also split into more tracks, makes for a much more pleasant album than the 2003 version (even taking that album in putting it in film order as well).

    I find myself re-listening to the longer ending of the main title. It's so cool, both musically, by itself, as well as accompanying the title sequence. I'd made an edit of the corresponding track from the 2003 album to match that longer ending, but this, being the real thing, sounds better. The performance isn't identical from one bar to the next.

    The track Blizzard stuck with me as well. It reminds me of this from Deadfall:
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WNTrNzIJkQI&t=20s

    And back to the Prelude for Strings and Guitar, that is truly like the lost movement from Barry's Romance for Guitar and Orchestra.
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    Deadfall is such a great soundtrack too, listening to it right now. Even the title of the movie sounds somewhat Bondian!
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
    edited July 26 Posts: 7,228
    Great observation, it could've been a cool title for Bond. And yes, what a gorgeous soundtrack. Apart from the concert piece, parts of which reappear in the rest of the score, there are some languid, lush instrumentals of the title song, the dissonant harmonies of a motif involving diamonds, and at the beginning of a particular cue, a short but strange trumpet solo that's embedded in my mind. There is an uncomfortable, restless nature to much of the music, as if even in romantic passion there is something twisted waiting to emerge. It gets under one's skin.
  • Posts: 127
    Dear @nsb1234 hats off for another incredible release and many thanks for all the work you're doing for us Bond fans.

    Can I ask for your help with something? I'm trying to piece together all the slate numbers for the cues. Would you mind casting your eye over the below and filling in the gaps if you're able please? Many thanks in advance...
    01 Gun Barrel (1M1)
    02 Bond Pursues Tracy (1M2) (This Never Happened To The Other Fella)
    03 Bond Saves Tracy (1M3) (This Never Happened To The Other Fella)
    04 This Never Happened To The Other Fella (1M4)
    05 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service (Main Title - Film Version) (1M5)
    06 Try (Film Version) (2M2)
    07 Unused Cue (2M3) (James And Tracy)
    08 James And Tracy (2M4)
    09 You Have An Appointment (3M1)
    10 The Capu (3M2)
    11 Resignation (3M3)
    12 Mission Memories (Underneath The Mango Tree/From Russia With Love (Main Title)/Thunderball (Album Version - Lounge Instrumental)
    13 Two Weeks Leave (3M4)
    14 Tracy’s Return (4M1) (Two Weeks Leave)
    15 Prelude For Guitar & Strings (4M2A)
    16 Louis Armstrong ‘We Have All The Time In The World (Film Version)’ (4M3A)
    17 Gumbold’s Safe (Film Version) (5M1)
    18 The College Of Arms (5M2)
    19 Nina ‘Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown?’ (WILD)
    20 Journey To Piz Gloria (6M2)
    21 The Usual Comforts (7M1)
    22 Bond Checks His Room (Tracked Music - 5M2)
    23 Twelve Gorgeous Girls
    23 Sir Hilary Is Introduced (7M2) (Twelve Gorgeous Girls)
    24 Heraldry (7M3)
    25 Count Balthazar De Bleuchamp (8M1)
    26 Enter Blofeld (8M1) (Count Balthazar De Bleuchamp)
    27 Eight (8M2)
    28 It’s True! (8M2A)
    29 The Hidden Persuader (8M3)
    30 You’ll Need To Be (9M1)
    31 Berne Brass Band (Source) (9M2?) (Grand Christmas Eve Ball)
    32 Uncovered (9M3)
    33 I’ll Do What I Claim (10M1)
    34 ‘Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown’ Music Box Source (10M2)
    35 Deep Hypnosis (10M4 revised)
    36 Escape From Piz Gloria (Film Version) (11M1)* (3.53)
    37 Clifftop Fight (11M2) (Escape From Piz Gloria)
    38 Ice Rink (Source) (9M2?) (Grand Christmas Eve Ball)
    39 Tracy To The Rescue* (12M1) (1.30)
    33 Blizzard (Unused) (13M1)
    34 Proposal (13M2)
    35 Ski Chase (Extended Version) (13M3)
    36 Tracy Is Retrieved (13M4) (Ski Chase)
    37 Don’t Be So Proud (14M1)
    38 Over And Out (Film Version) (14M2)
    39 The James Bond Theme
    40 Battle At Piz Gloria (14M3)
    41 Battle At Piz Gloria Continued (15M1)
    42 Unused Cue (15M2)
    43 Bobsled Chase (16M1)
    44 The Wedding Ring (Tracked Music - 5M2)
    45 Wedding Singer Chant (Source)* (0.30)
    46 Tracy’s Death - We Have All The Time In The World (Film Version) (16M3)
    47 End Titles (The James Bond Theme) (16M3)

    BONUS
    Louis Armstrong ‘We Have All The Time In The World (Album Version)’ (4M4)
    Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown? (Children Only) (?)
    We Have All The Time In The World Jazz Combo (Unused Film Version) (2M1)
    We Have All The Time In The World Jazz Combo (Album Version) (2M1A)
    Prelude For Guitar & Strings (Without strings) (4M2)
    6M1 - unsure what this is?
    Journey To Blofeld’s Hideaway (Unused Album Version) (6M2A)
    10M3 - unsure what this is?
    The Wedding Ring (Unused) (16M2?)
  • Posts: 127
    morcarvic wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Finally got my copy. I can now check out for myself all those things I was asking about. But from what I've listened to so far, I'll just say that this

    mtm wrote: »
    Prelude for Guitar and Strings is ridiculous. Imagine writing something that beautiful just for a bit of background music, and then leaving it off the soundtrack album. Or never even using it again (as far as I'm aware).

    is the absolute truth.

    Seconded,here's a thought does the film use only around the first 30 seconds repeated to around a minute or so in order to avoid hearing the strings because on screen no orchestra is evident just the guitar player,anybody have thoughts on this?

    I'm sure I can hear strings in the film version, but very low in the mix?

    By the way, that cue is a definite highlight of the new release. Isn't it wild that it's taken 56 years for people to be able to appreciate it <:-P
  • nsb1234nsb1234 Sunny California
    Posts: 31
    Can I ask for your help with something? I'm trying to piece together all the slate numbers for the cues.

    Stephen Woolston put this together.
  • After the bobsleigh fight, is it a repeat of the resignation theme when the St Bernard turns up to help Bond? Because thats missing and I’d like to add it in (like the Nick Nack music before the end fight on the boat in MWTGG).
  • nsb1234nsb1234 Sunny California
    edited July 28 Posts: 31
    After the bobsleigh fight, is it a repeat of the resignation theme when the St Bernard turns up to help Bond? Because thats missing and I’d like to add it in (like the Nick Nack music before the end fight on the boat in MWTGG).

    Both bits of music are tracked with earlier cues in the film. In OHMSS, "The Wedding Ring" was intended for that sequence, but replaced with "The College Of Arms."

    John Barry DID NOT SCORE the Nick Nack fight at the end of TMWTGG. Instead the film tracks in "In The Boot."

    Ergo, neither cue is missing from the new CDs.

    Neil
  • edited July 29 Posts: 18,050
    Just received my 2 CD set today, and I'm loving it so far. Great work by Neil!

    I was surprised by the poor packaging by the 007 Store, which was only a thin cardboard envelope and the least amount of bubble wrap possible, which wasn't even wrapped properly around the jewel case. I've had similar items delivered from abroad in similar packaging, and they have all been damaged to some extent.

    How were the CDs packaged for those of you who ordered directly from LLL? If they were more securely packaged, then that's another reason to order directly from LLL.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 18,646
    I had it really well-packed from 007store, I even thought it was slight overkill!
  • Posts: 18,050
    How strange! Whoever packed my CD set must have been in a rush.
  • Posts: 8,377
    How strange! Whoever packed my CD set must have been in a rush.

    No, mine came the same way! I, too, was surprised at the flimsy packaging! It was very lucky it didn't suffer some damage!
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