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The James Bond Debate Thread - 336 Craig looks positively younger in SP than he does in SF.

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  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    It's not part of the official series, but I always rank it as a real Bond movie, but not official. CR67 is IMO also a Bond movie, but not a real one, as it isn't even trying to be a Bond film, let alone an action movie.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    I didn't understand that last post at all ?!
  • TouchMyButtonsTouchMyButtons Banned
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    I agree with Benny's comment up above.
    I don't consider it an actual bond film but I do feel like its part of the bond franchise's history in its own weird, unusual and out of place way .

    sorry, let me rephrase. I don't consider it an official bond film, but I do feel it deserves it's place in official bond history , not as a film but because of the whole stressful conflict between Fleming and McClory , EON VS MCCLORY including all the drama, heart ache and stress it took for NSNA to come about, it deserves somewhat of a recognition to the series, if that makes any sense.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    <font color=tomato size=4><b>THESIS 108</b></font>

    <font color=blue size=7><b>Bond with a Playboy magazine in OHMSS is an example of tasteful product placement.</b></font>
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    It was more than just product placement- it was the very issue that had the OHMSS story in it- it was an homage, and a clever one
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Master_Dahark wrote:
    It was more than just product placement- it was the very issue that had the OHMSS story in it- it was an homage, and a clever one

    Wow, I didn't know that. Very cool!

    Agree.

  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    I agree, it did make me smile and laugh when i saw it in the movie. It still does and i am smiling as i type this.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I love how Bond walked out of there with the centrefold. I wonder if he packed it along with everything else when he took off to Swiss. ;-)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Tasteful with the way in which it was presented, yes but I'm sure some would argue Playboy shouldn't be product placement, full stop.
  • VirageVirage
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    Didn't even notice it so I agree.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    Lazenby was actually reading the February 1969 edition of the magazine, and a number of ex Bond girls have revealed all for the benefit of the mens magazine such as Jill Saint John, Denise Richards, Ursula Andress, Barbara Bach and Maryam d'Abo to name but a few

    Thesis seems right, it was product placement tastefully done, brief etc and I do enjoy it when George sneaks it out of the office and makes off towards the elevators without the knowledge of those couple of ladies walking his way

    This could warrant a new Bond trivia question even..

    In what other Bond movie (to the best of my knowledge) do we see a glimpse of a 'Mens magazine'

    Gold stars and all to whoever knew that..
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    "Nuts", in Casino Royale
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    royale65 wrote:
    "Nuts", in Casino Royale

    Where at?
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    <font color=tomato size=4><b>THESIS 109</b></font>

    <font color=blue size=7><b>At least three of the Bond actors had a very Bond-like part in movies outside the Bond series.</b></font>
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
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    108: A good thing OHMSS wasn't promoting Hustler.

    109:

    I would say Sean Connery had a very Bond-like part when he appeared in Never Say never Again. Not sure about the rest.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    The actual answer was Brosnan in Tomorrow Never Dies, you remember well enough

    I had to think for a bit about the last thesis #109, as I'm not really a fan of Bond actors other work outside the franchise, I'll concentrate on the most obvious names, Connery, Brosnan and Moore

    Connery - The Name Of The Rose (1986)

    Brosnan - The Fourth Protocol (1987)

    Moore - The Sea Wolves (1979)

    Thesis seems correct
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    George was a Bond-like character in that TV movie, and Sean had the spy film "The Russia House" as well, but was he a spy in it?
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    George was a Bond-like character in that TV movie

    Indeed. The Return of the Man From UNCLE(1983) as the mysterious "J.B."

    return_of_the_man_from_uncle3.jpg

    Which means in 1983, the first 3 official Bond actors all played a secret agent with the initials J.B.

    Also, Timothy Dalton guest starred as a jewel thief involved with the late Farrah Fawcett in a 1979 episode of Charlie's Angels. In that episode, Charlie describes his character as a man with "James Bond-ian tastes."

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I thought Pierce had a few rather Bondlike roles during and after his tenure as Bond. Thomas Crown, After The Sunset, ... Anyone agree?
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    I love how Bond walked out of there with the centrefold. I wonder if he packed it along with everything else when he took off to Swiss. ;-)

    Given how he was working his way through the Angels of Death, I don't think he needed that copy of Playboy. ;)
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    I thought Pierce had a few rather Bondlike roles during and after his tenure as Bond. Thomas Crown, After The Sunset, ... Anyone agree?

    Very much so. In fact a few of his films outside of Bond had some kind of link to it. I always thought his "leaving" of Bond played a bit of a part in his casting of Adam Lang in The Ghost (a man who was once in a high position of power and was loved/admired but has since lost that).
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Bondian in what sense? Indeed, Bronan in The Thomas Crown Affair is fairly Bondian when it comes to tastes and lifestyle of the man. On the other hand, in The Tailor of Panama, he plays the anti-Bond secret agent. Both roles he played better then Bond IMO.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Yes, this one is true. Actually, one would find this very difficult to argue with.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    Yes, this one is true. Actually, one would find this very difficult to argue with.

    you are like the Murray Walker of James Bond ! ;)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    CommanderRoss wrote:
    Bondian in what sense? Indeed, Bronan in The Thomas Crown Affair is fairly Bondian when it comes to tastes and lifestyle of the man. On the other hand, in The Tailor of Panama, he plays the anti-Bond secret agent. Both roles he played better then Bond IMO.

    I agree. That's one of the mysteries of Brosnan's tenure.

  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    With minor changes, The Rock practically is a Bond movie! Sort of like Connery's 'Dark Knight Returns' if you will
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited June 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Agree. Connery in the rock, Dalton in that looney tunes film, Lazenby in that TV movie.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Craig in Layer Cake.... his character was like Bond left MI6 and joined the 'underworld'....
  • WVPoefWVPoef
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    Yes, agreed.
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