Best 3 scenes for each Bond movies, can't find even one good one for TWINE

edited December 2021 in Bond Movies Posts: 1,396
I recently had a very interesting discussion during a Toronto-Montréal car ride with a friend, a friend who is very knowledgeable about Bond movies. The theme was to argue about the best 3 scenes for each Bond movie, it took 3 hours out of a 5 1/2 hour trip. We started with Dr No and navigated our way up until NTTD. When we came up with TWINE, neither one of us could identifie a single scene which stands out, worthy or the best scenes from the other Bond movies. I put TWINE to the test tonight, and regrettably, coudn't target a moment, a scene, a reply worthy of praise. Even DAD had better credentials. So, can you point to me or argue about a single scene from TWINE worthy of praise?
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  • BirdlesonBirdleson Moderator
    edited December 2021 Posts: 515
    I can, from my perspective. Arguing would be inane, you’re not likely going to convince someone that they enjoyed what they didn’t, or vice versus.

    1. Death of Elektra
    2. M/Bond scenes.
    3. Elektra/Renard (mutilated hand scene)

    Honorable Mention: PTS (though I do feel that the tacked on boat chase went on twice as long as necessary).

    And Kleinman’s Title Sequence is excellent.

    I’m sure that @Some_Kind_Of_Hero would have quite a bit more to contribute.

    On the other hand,I honestly come up with a blank for SP. I know others site they PTS, but for me that’s simply adequate at best. It feels staged and flat. My favorite scene, by far, is the Mr. White encounter, but even that seems to be lacking in vitality, it promised more.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I can, from my perspective. Arguing would be inane, you’re not likely going to convince someone that they enjoyed what they didn’t, or vice versus.

    1. Death of Elektra
    2. M/Bond scenes.
    3. Elektra/Renard (mutilated hand scene)

    Honorable Mention: PTS (though I do feel that the tacked on boat chase went on twice as long as necessary).

    And Kleinman’s Title Sequence is excellent.

    I was going to comment, and you did it for me. Thanks.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    Bond confronting M about her past with Elektra. Nice seeing Bond get the upper hand over his boss for once.
    The casino sequence, especially Bond pinning the guy's tie to the counter with his knife.
    Chopper/buzzsaw attack on Zukovsky's factory. A lot of people don't like it, but I do.
  • Just from recent memory, this board has a good number of anti-TWINE threads going already. I'm sure there are one or two pro-TWINE threads in here as well where you can read lots of opinions you don't agree with.
  • 1. The entire Bank meeting scene
    3. Bond calming Elektra down
    4. “I never miss”

    Heck I’ll even go further and add more...
    4. The Cavier Factory attack
    5. “She’s waiting for you...”
    6. The sly diss Moneypenny makes towards Dr. Warmflash
    7. The hot air balloon explosion/Bond’s subsequent injury.

    I get the hate for TWINE, but there seems to be just a sense of mean spirited, misguided hostility towards the film, and that kind of sucks being one of the few members of this forum who genuinely loves and enjoys this film flaws and all.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited December 2021 Posts: 11,871
    Bank scene: "I want to know who killed 0012." *pulls photo of TWINE crew member, 'the coffee guy', aka Bab's nephew* "And my coffee is cold."

    Pipeline observation rig scene. Charles to chopper pilot: "Get him on the PIG!"

    Elektra death scene: "You wouldn't kill me. You'd miss me. Yes. DIVE! Bond--" *Bond dives*
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    edited January 1 Posts: 1,776
    1. Pipeline observation rig sequence
    2. Arrival at the Russian ICBM base
    3. Submarine finale
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,197
    Agree with @Birdleson that you are unlikely to convince someone on a topic like this.

    But let me give it my best shot... it's pretty hard not to consider Desmond Llewlyn's last scene, before his death, as not memorable and iconic.

    Q: I've always tried to teach you two things: First, never let them see you bleed.
    Bond: And the second?
    Q: Always have an escape plan... *descends into floor*
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 9,115
    Agree with @Birdleson that you are unlikely to convince someone on a topic like this.

    But let me give it my best shot... it's pretty hard not to consider Desmond Llewlyn's last scene, before his death, as not memorable and iconic.

    Q: I've always tried to teach you two things: First, never let them see you bleed.
    Bond: And the second?
    Q: Always have an escape plan... *descends into floor*

    Yeah I must admit, of all the candidates in this thread that comes the closest. But it’s possibly only because of what came before i.e. Llewelyn having been in the films for several decades, and I’m not sure it’s a great scene in itself. When did he he try and teach Bond never to let then see him bleed? That’s not their relationship at all! And it ends with a scared-looking old man being lowered into a pit :D

    But yeah, otherwise I think TWINE is missing a properly memorable scene. You’d probably say ‘it’s the one with the Thames boat chase’ but even that isn’t terribly good, really…
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    TWINE is imperfect but far from unenjoyable. I could cite half a dozen less interesting entries...
  • Posts: 206
    1. PTS
    2. Elektra death scene
    3. Desmond Llewelyn's final scene (always loved this)
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 2,989
    The PTS is very enjoyable and one of my favourites since it really does stand out and shows great action.

    Q's final scene ist very well made, too.

    I also like Bond calming down Elektra after being trapped by the avalanche.

    Bond Killing Elektra is another highlight.

    And don't forget Zukovsky. He is very funny to watch throughout the while film.

    I even Like the final fight between Bond and Renard.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    edited January 1 Posts: 3,551
    1. The PTS. Brilliantly put together action sequence.

    2. Bond and Elektra skiing as Arnold's beautiful Barryesque music plays.

    3. Bond confronting Elektra about Renard.

    There's loads more great moments but it's all opinions after all.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,004
    Easier for me to list the BAD scenes in TWINE.
    Ummmmmm....
    Okay. There ya go. ;)
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e il momento che verrà
    edited January 2 Posts: 5,712
    Being one of the few fans of this intallment, I’d like to add my five favourite scenes:

    1. Q’s farewell
    2. Thames boat chase
    3. Banker’s office
    4. “I never miss”
    5. Casino scene

    There are more, but I’ll stick to my top five for now.

    This was my first Bond film and I still consider it a very good one. It will always be near the 10th spot in my rankings.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger The Lazenby Pit
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    i really like the bank office scene that opens the film, the main title sequence and the drive into Baku. Also like every scene with Renard and Dr Jones. Nothing very memorable, though.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    One of my least favorites but I do like any scene with Sophie Marceau:

    "It's my oil! Mine! I feel it in my blood!"
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't get the love for the banker scene: there's no style to it, it all looks dreary (really horrible little cramped set) and there's nothing especially witty to it. And for this scene where Bond goes to meet a Swiss banker, with his Cuban(?) assistant, they've decided that the most logical place to set it is... Spain..?!
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't get the love for the banker scene: there's no style to it, it all looks dreary (really horrible little cramped set) and there's nothing especially witty to it. And for this scene where Bond goes to meet a Swiss banker, with his Cuban(?) assistant, they've decided that the most logical place to set it is... Spain..?!

    Tax credits?

    I think it was set in Switzerland (a nod to OHMSS?), then in Cuba, and finally in Spain. Somehow each of these setting details got added along the way.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe JenaMaloneforBond.comModerator
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    1. Q's farewell
    2. Q-Boat chase
    3. Bond snaking around at night (Elektra's villa / airfield)
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    I don't want to dump on TWINE, but while I enjoyed it more than ever the last time I saw it, I did notice that it doesn't have any real standout scenes....
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 9,115
    echo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I don't get the love for the banker scene: there's no style to it, it all looks dreary (really horrible little cramped set) and there's nothing especially witty to it. And for this scene where Bond goes to meet a Swiss banker, with his Cuban(?) assistant, they've decided that the most logical place to set it is... Spain..?!

    Tax credits?

    I think it was set in Switzerland (a nod to OHMSS?), then in Cuba, and finally in Spain. Somehow each of these setting details got added along the way.

    Yes, I’ve not read anything about early drafts, but it just must’ve been set in Switzerland when it was first written, it’s just where you’d set that. I’ve no idea what Cigar Girl is about, really.
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    I don't want to dump on TWINE, but while I enjoyed it more than ever the last time I saw it, I did notice that it doesn't have any real standout scenes....

    My point exactly. Thank you.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,004
    I don't want to dump on TWINE, but while I enjoyed it more than ever the last time I saw it, I did notice that it doesn't have any real standout scenes....

    My point exactly. Thank you.

    The last line in the movie stood out. Surprised they got away with it....
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    The thread title is yet another example of Brosnan bashing on this forum.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    The thread title is yet another example of Brosnan bashing on this forum.
    I thought the "Why Pierce Brosnan Deserves To Die" thread was worse, but hey- to each their own, eh?
    :P
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    edited January 5 Posts: 230
    chrisisall wrote: »
    I don't want to dump on TWINE, but while I enjoyed it more than ever the last time I saw it, I did notice that it doesn't have any real standout scenes....

    My point exactly. Thank you.

    The last line in the movie stood out. Surprised they got away with it....

    I vividly remember the audience reaction to that. Half the theater laughed, the other half groaned. Come to think of it, TWINE had the most vocal audience that I remember for a Bond movie.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,004
    slide_99 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    I don't want to dump on TWINE, but while I enjoyed it more than ever the last time I saw it, I did notice that it doesn't have any real standout scenes....

    My point exactly. Thank you.

    The last line in the movie stood out. Surprised they got away with it....

    I vividly remember the audience reaction to that. Half the theater laughed, the other half groaned. Come to think of it, TWINE had the most vocal audience that I remember for a Bond movie.

    In 1979, the "attempting re-entry" line got a huge & audible groan in my theatre. I was silent because by then I had decided EON had lost their f**king minds. :)
  • BirdlesonBirdleson Moderator
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    The thread title is yet another example of Brosnan bashing on this forum.

    It does appear to be.

  • BirdlesonBirdleson Moderator
    edited January 5 Posts: 515
    slide_99 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    I don't want to dump on TWINE, but while I enjoyed it more than ever the last time I saw it, I did notice that it doesn't have any real standout scenes....

    My point exactly. Thank you.

    The last line in the movie stood out. Surprised they got away with it....

    I vividly remember the audience reaction to that. Half the theater laughed, the other half groaned. Come to think of it, TWINE had the most vocal audience that I remember for a Bond movie.

    In the seventies the audiences were all in; the laughing, the gasps, the overall tension. The Connery films were all at the drive-in for me, so I can't comment, but I have never felt that group rollercoaster ride, that audience cohesion that I did for those '70s Bond films since. And it wasn't just Bond, STAR WARS and the first two sequels were the same (and if you mentioned the lame title the new hope at any point before 1981 no one would know what the Hell you were talking about, and we were all better off for it), and many other films, were just as much fun. SUPERMAN: THE MOVIE was a very emotional experience on many levels, and much of that was through the shared experience. It was palpable.

    Now the phones, the texting, the talking, the commercials, the endless credits. The distractions. Those of you who were around will know what I mean, it was different. The cheering and laughing during that first SW film was completely organic. Now, with both of the big Disney properties, most of the cheers and applause come from diehard fans who want to signal that they get whatever reference to any previous installment pops up, or the obligatory applause when a known character comes on screen. It all feels so dry and calculated. They applaud the expected, they never seem to be lost in the moment.
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