Why the hate on Craig?

X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
edited December 2011 in Actors Posts: 2,635
I don't know why there are people that hate Daniel Craig (Not necessary on this forum. I mean at a worldwide scale). He makes a great job as 007, and for me, after
Brosnan and Connery he's the best Bond i've ever seen.
I hate ppl who hate him, he's not the worst Bond ever as some of them says, and these ppl hate him just because he is "new" to the Holywood scene and they had never heard of him before.
Craig's a great guy, a great actor, the people shouldn't blame him for the director's mistakes. If there's someone to be blamed on, is not him, which does a Very Great job as Bond, but Barbara or Michael G. Wilson, whose produces Bond movies.
Look at his great job at CR and QoS. Both are great movies, although you guys MAYBE think it's not a Bond movie, but any other action movie, anyway for me those are great Bond films. As i've heard, CR was the one to hit the highest grossing on the Bond series, they should be proud of it, not hating on him.
These people should know what they are talking about, because the fault is not of Daniel. He's the ACTOR, he's being payed to act as James Bond in cinema screens. If there's something wrong, blame on Barbara!
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  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited December 2011 Posts: 4,399
    i think the box office take of his last two films, especially the critical praise from critics and fans over CR, i would say it's very few and far between...

    ... it's just usually those that have their problems, beat their drums their most often and the loudest.... after all, thats what the internet is all about - to complain, and the total amount of people on the net who do, don't even make up a 16th of the people who go see the films....

    but people have their own opinions, and god bless them, they are entitled to - but i think the numbers really speak for themselves.
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    As far as I know everyone was Craig haters until they saw Casino royale. Now we all love Craig. thank him for saving the franchise and thanks to Babs for signing him.
    Who hates Craig? Whoever they are they can go urinate up a rope then hang themselves with it. ....
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    OHMSS69 wrote:
    As far as I know everyone was Craig haters until they saw Casino royale. Now we all love Craig. thank him for saving the franchise and thanks to Babs for signing him.
    Who hates Craig? Whoever they are they can go urinate up a rope then hang themselves with it. ....
    DaltonCraig007
    Shark

    and i know a few others on this board hate him.

  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    HASEROT wrote:
    ... it's just usually those that have their problems, beat their drums their most often and the loudest.... after all, thats what the internet is all about - to complain, and the total amount of people on the net who do, don't even make up a 16th of the people who go see the films....

    yeah, unfortunately there are people that are so childlike that doesn't knows what they are talking. I can not know about Bond's history at all, but i don't keep talking that Craig sux, because i didn't even watch all the Bond movies yet. They should know a lot more vefore opening their dirty mouth.
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    As far as I know everyone was Craig haters until they saw Casino royale. Now we all love Craig. thank him for saving the franchise and thanks to Babs for signing him.
    Who hates Craig? Whoever they are they can go urinate up a rope then hang themselves with it. ....

    Lmao. / Yeah, thanks to him the franchise has been saved, and he's doing a great job until now. And i know that it will still being like that in Skyfall.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    I guess that DaltonCraig wouldn't hate him, he has Craig on his nickname lol
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    X3MSonicX wrote:
    I guess that DaltonCraig wouldn't hate him, he has Craig on his nickname lol

    it's about as backwards as his arguments sometimes ;-) .... but no, he doesn't like Craig at all...

    in terms of saving the franchise...... umm... i'm 50/50 on that one.... DAD, as bad as it was, was still a box office success - but it didn't take long for the awful reviews to start pouring in once it was released.... i give more credit to Babs and Michael, for realizing they had run as far as they could with the current style.. they had stretched the rubber band as far as it could possibly go for the time, and pulling it any farther would likely end in it snapping... and it was obvious, a drastic overhaul needed to happen... Craig is secondary IMO.... but his performance helped validate Babs and Michael's decision, and he is really taking the role into an area that we haven't seen in a long time - or possibly ever.

  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
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    Craig haters are quite a vocal minority - like the archetype Tunbridge Wells-ian, Daily Mail readers that plague Blighty, one might say... ;)
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    X3MSonicX wrote:
    I guess that DaltonCraig wouldn't hate him, he has Craig on his nickname lol
    Thats always puzzled me as TD and DC appear to be his least favorite bonds...

    ANYWHO I think for what ever reason there was quite a bit of craig hate a few months ago but now its subsided..
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 503
    Craig isn't my favorite portrayal of Bond, even though he's an excellent actor, but I by no means hate him or even dislike him. Casino Royale was excellent, and he was a major factor in that, and Skyfall will be a big factor for me in deciding what to think of his portrayal as Bond. Right now, he's at about 4th or 5th in my list of Bonds.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 1,778
    I personally love Craig as Bond. He has potential to even surpass Connery in my view if he keeps up the good work.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 1,497
    @X3MSonicX: First of all, Craig seems to be widely accepted, as the box office numbers suggest, not to mention the praise he has received from critics as well as past Bond actors. So I don't think there is this widespread 'hate.' With anything, especially a long running series such as Bond, there is always going to be a group of people who don't like what the masses like. One shouldn't hate this minority, just accept that they have a different opinion. Secondly, I don't think it's as black and white as, those who dislike CR and QOS do because of Daniel Craig, and that we should be 'hating the producers not DC...' There are some people who just don't like his portrayal of Bond, and that's okay. That's great that you like Craig. Personally I think he's a fine actor and does a very convincing job as Bond. But I also see where others come from too; maybe he's not Fleming enough or he's not suave and sophisticated enough. Those are valid arguments. I would also suggest seeing all the films to get the whole perspective.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
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    @JBFan626 Well I know that, but what I hate is not just because they hate him, but they tell him he is a bad actor, or like, he should stop being Bond... etc.
  • JBFan626 wrote:
    @X3MSonicX: First of all, Craig seems to be widely accepted, as the box office numbers suggest, not to mention the praise he has received from critics as well as past Bond actors. So I don't think there is this widespread 'hate.' With anything, especially a long running series such as Bond, there is always going to be a group of people who don't like what the masses like. One shouldn't hate this minority, just accept that they have a different opinion. Secondly, I don't think it's as black and white as, those who dislike CR and QOS do because of Daniel Craig, and that we should be 'hating the producers not DC...' There are some people who just don't like his portrayal of Bond, and that's okay. That's great that you like Craig. Personally I think he's a fine actor and does a very convincing job as Bond. But I also see where others come from too; maybe he's not Fleming enough or he's not suave and sophisticated enough. Those are valid arguments. I would also suggest seeing all the films to get the whole perspective.

    Well said. I would also say that you can look at the arguments that people make. If someone makes a well reasoned, articulate argument then even if you don't agree with them you at least have a better or different perspective. However, if someone starts screaming and yelling, going to absolute rage or offense within the first post, harping on a single point, or even a couple of points that others may find minor then it's probably a good idea to just ignore them. You'll never have a back-and-forth conversation with them; it will just descend into a flame war that leaves both people fuming. Best to just leave them be.
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    St_George wrote:
    Craig haters are quite a vocal minority
    There might only be a handful of them, but they make up for it by flooding the boards with posts.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 4,622
    Oh and the Craig worshippers are oh so restrained. :x

    btw, I'm the only person in the world that liked Dream House, so my Craig love credentials are rock solid. <:-P
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    timmer wrote:
    Oh and the Craig worshippers are oh so restrained. :x

    btw, I'm the only person in the world that liked Dream House, so my Craig love credentials are rock solid. <:-P

    of course we are...

    when you don't have something to complain about - then why open your mouth?

  • timmer wrote:
    Oh and the Craig worshippers are oh so restrained. :x

    btw, I'm the only person in the world that liked Dream House, so my Craig love credentials are rock solid. <:-P

    Well with all the childish stuff and unwarrented bashing he got months before CR was even released I think his real fans have the right to gloat alittle.
  • SharkShark Banned
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    HASEROT wrote:
    Well with all the childish stuff and unwarrented bashing he got months before CR was even released I think his real fans have the right to gloat alittle.

    In 2006-07 I'd agree, but the "I told you so" shtick's gotten very old since then.
    HASEROT wrote:
    when you don't have something to complain about - then why open your mouth?

    The oversensitive Craig worshipers complain about Craig skeptics/bashers complaining about Craig. Case in point with this thread.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 4,622
    Anyone else here love Dream House? No? Then I think that qualifies me as Craig's mostest bestest fan. So there! :x
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    @shark..

    please correct your first quote, i didn't say that ;-)

    in reality, I personally don't care who likes or doesn't like whoever for whatever.... i really don't..... it's fun to engage in discussions about it though from time to time.... I do see your point - but I think it's all Yin and Yang... obviously the OP posted this because he's seen a lot of bashing and was naturally curious.. i dont think he posted it just to post it... - i've been around these boards for a long time, and a member for close to a year now... the only time i've seen the "oversensitive Craig worshipers" complain, is in threads where he's getting bashed.... and why shouldn't they...... complaining about them would be like complaining about you when you rush to the defense DAF, MR, or DAD.... i don't think it's being over sensitive, that's just a cute snarky label...

    again - Ying and Yang..
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
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    timmer wrote:
    Anyone else here love Dream House? No? Then I think that qualifies me as Craig's mostest bestest fan. So there! :x

    I've seen him in:

    Tomb Raider
    Road To Perdition
    Munich
    Layer Cake
    Cowboys And Aliens

    and will be going to see Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (also because I am a David Fincher fan)..

  • Posts: 297
    Shark wrote:
    HASEROT wrote:
    Well with all the childish stuff and unwarrented bashing he got months before CR was even released I think his real fans have the right to gloat alittle.

    In 2006-07 I'd agree, but the "I told you so" shtick's gotten very old since then.
    HASEROT wrote:
    when you don't have something to complain about - then why open your mouth?

    The oversensitive Craig worshipers complain about Craig skeptics/bashers complaining about Craig. Case in point with this thread.


    The oversensitive selfstyled 'conservative fans' complain about their chip on the shoulder being called a chip, oh the irony. You guys really crack me up.

    Mind you, there's nothing wrong with not liking Craig. Just come right out and admit it. Don't try and blow up your dislike beyond proportion all I ask. I've seen 'fans' act as if the world would stop turning because the series doesn't cater to their personal tastes and political makeup. Which is initially quite hilarious but stops being funny after the thousandths iteration and is then just plain old pretentiousness. I don't mind if chubby hillbillies share their wet dreams about Craig and pretend they were 'fact' because it gives them what they likely see as satisfaction. Grown up people should be above such rubbish.

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    HASEROT wrote:
    timmer wrote:
    Anyone else here love Dream House? No? Then I think that qualifies me as Craig's mostest bestest fan. So there! :x

    I've seen him in:

    Tomb Raider
    Road To Perdition
    Munich
    Layer Cake
    Cowboys And Aliens



    I've seen him in ;

    Tomb Raider
    Road To Perdition
    Munich
    Layer Cake
    Cowboys and Aliens
    Sword of Honour
    The Jacket
    Infamous
    The Golden Compass
    Our Friends in the North
    The Mother
    Defiance
    The Ice House
    Archangel

    :x





  • edited December 2011 Posts: 6,601
    Try "Enduring Love" and "Sylvia" as well as "Copenhagen", "Some Voices" and "The Trench".
    Interesting material and great acting from all. ..and not to forget "Love is the Devil" - slightly distrubing stuff of the kind, he used to do in his early career.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Craig first came to my attention in Layer Cake. I bought the DVD when it first came out, as I was into British heist-style films (a la Guy Ritchie) at the time. Having watched this before CR, I was familiar with Craig, and this made it easy for me to find Craig convincing as Bond. In the handful of Craig films I've seen, his acting is excellent, but somehow I feel his best performances have yet to come cough*Skyfall*cough.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 6,601
    QBranch wrote:
    Craig first came to my attention in Layer Cake. I bought the DVD when it first came out, as I was into British heist-style films (a la Guy Ritchie) at the time. Having watched this before CR, I was familiar with Craig, and this made it easy for me to find Craig convincing as Bond. In the handful of Craig films I've seen, his acting is excellent, but somehow I feel his best performances have yet to come cough*Skyfall*cough.

    That might very well be true - once he is off the hunk roles and becomes again the character actor, he actually is. Tattoo is a step in that direction, more acting then action...for now, I think, he just enjoys himself with challenging his body, but once he is done with that, we might be in for some incredible work.
  • to be honest he's been the best thing in both movies so far - but - he hasn't played Bond yet. He's just played an over-aged angst driven teenager who's had a bit of bad luck with his emo gf.

    I want him to grow up, have some fun and be Bond.
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    Bond with capital B - as the saying goes. He must know...
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited December 2011 Posts: 15,686
    HASEROT wrote:
    Ibut no, he doesn't like Craig at all...

    Not true. I quite like Craig as an actor... love him in Munich, Layer Cake, Flashbacks of a Fool, Defiance and Enduring Love. I just don't like his take on Bond.
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    Now we all love Craig. thank him for saving the franchise and thanks to Babs for signing him.

    Who is this 'we' ??

    Again this thread is perfect proof that the Craig worshipers simply cannot accept that someone may not like his take on Bond or his Bond films.
    OHMSS69 wrote:
    Whoever they are they can go urinate up a rope then hang themselves with it. ....

    Well you are an insult to Bond fans... Why do you insult the Bond fans that don't like Craig as Bond ?

    I can say too that anyone who doesn't like MR or DAF are just jerks, morons and idiots.

    You say the minority of fans who don't like Craig are very vocal and loud... Well look at your 'majority' who keep insulting us, telling us to commit suicide, calling us idiots...

    Sorry but many of the Craig fans here are just acting like they are the master race of Bond fans. Stop getting on your high horses whenever someone doesn't like Craig.

    @OHMSS69, you are not a true Bond fan. A Bond fan would respect other's opinions, that may be different than yours, not tell them to kill themselves. I despise fans like you.

    So all the Craig fans : shut up, suck it up and accept that you will not force us to like Craig, even if you insult us.

    I don't understand why some people are allowed on this forum, if they keep insulting members who don't share their opinions.

    How about I cans morons, idiots and jerks for not having MR in your top 5 outings ?

    You Craig fans are risible. I'm sure none of you would tell someone in real life to 'go urinate up a rope then hang themselves with it'... So stop acting like tough behind your computer screen.
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    I give this thread about five more minutes before the moderators come in with a big padlock.

    Congratulations, the lot of you. You've successfully demonstrated why other forums think so little of MI6.
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