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Tarantino and Bond

TopGearJB007TopGearJB007
edited November 2011 in Bond Movies Posts: 624
@JWESTBROOK and I were just discussing this in the Fassbender thread.
TopGearJB007 wrote:
Seeing Fassbender in Inglourious Basterds really convinced me that he might be able to pull off Bond. Quentin Tarantino also convinced me that he'd be able to do a wonderful Bond period piece as long as he could keep the quirky moments to a minimum. Other than a period piece, I don't think I could take a Tarantino Bond movie seriously.
JWESTBROOK wrote:
I've always said just bring Tarantino in for character development. Can you imagine the amazing henchmen he could come up with?!
TopGearJB007 wrote:
@JWESTBROOK
I'd agree with that. Col. Hans Landa was one sick and twisted person, and yet still very believable.
JWESTBROOK wrote:
More formidable than Hitler himself. Even was able to save his own life. Hitler couldn't even take that credit! Tarantino made a man more evil than Hitler. Beat that Haggis.

I think some of Tarantino's, for the lack of a better word, trademarks are too extreme for a Bond film, but he does have great characters. Could he possibly be a writer for Bond 24? How about director if he toned it down a bit? What does everyone else think?
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  • tqbtqb
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    I like him but think he is over rated. And would worry he would do something to ruin the franchise. But then again. Maybe he has genius ideas. I would rather have him come up with a treatment for a movie then have other writers craft it into the right bond movie
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    Tarantino is a good director - amazing in fact - one of my favorites...

    but fantasizing about a Bond film being directed by him, is completely different than the odds of him actually being able to do it... - it'll never happen - simply because he has refused to join the DGA (not that he needs to), and traditionally, directors that work on Bond films are card carrying members...

    he would do a great job with banter, and dialog... but i haven't seen him master an action sequence, that wasn't meant to be over the top - because thats how he likes to play it with his violence - and I can't see EON signing on to do an R rated Bond flick any time remotely soon...

    but it would be interesting, and I would be on board if it happened one day.... but i doubt it ever will.
  • Agent005Agent005
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    I would love to see Tarantino do a by-the-book, true to the novel, period piece of The Spy Who Loved Me.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    I think Tarantino is more than talented enough to direct a successful Bond movie. I would love to see his characterizations and dialogue exchanges and I can just imagine the tension before the inevitable physical confrontations. His shootouts are splendid. Imagine something like the shootout of RD and the one in IB with Bond surviving such a close quarters massacre. Tarantino could do wonderful things with Bond but its a shame we probably won't ever see it happening.
  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    Agent005 wrote:
    I would love to see Tarantino do a by-the-book, true to the novel, period piece of The Spy Who Loved Me.

    Can't Fleming insisted that the story of TSWLM NEVER be used

  • Agent005Agent005
    Posts: 562
    I know that, but what are the chances that Tarantino will get to do a Bond film? We're all dreaming here...
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    edited November 2011 Posts: 357
    HASEROT wrote:
    he would do a great job with banter, and dialog... but i haven't seen him master an action sequence, that wasn't meant to be over the top - because thats how he likes to play it with his violence - and I can't see EON signing on to do an R rated Bond flick any time remotely soon...

    I think the action sequence in Kill Bill One where Uma Thurman fights the black woman in her house is supurbly constructed

    however his taste for graphic X ratable violence and the moral bankruptsy of his writing preclude him ever directing a Bond film IMO

    even with the dialogue his dependance on American pop culture as displayed by some of the ridiculous dialogue he put into the mouths of the German characters in IB would be a fatal drawback

    "Chief Winitou" indeed, you could count the number of German people in WW2 that would ever have heard of Chief Winitou on the fingers of one hand and still have four left over
    @-)
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    IF he did Bond, and he never will, unless a 15 year old boy somehow becomes producer, he would do it like Jackie Brown. Dialogue based. Plot based.

    It would have limited action sequences, which we be comprised of this:

    Sharp dialogue, for an extended period. Bond slowly reveals that he is inevetably going to kill the character he's talking to, and the character soon realizes he isn't going to walk away from this conversation without a fight. So he makes the first move - Bond anticipating it. Then its quick and dirty, Bond takes out the guy's attack and quickly a) beats the crap outa him in under 2 minutes, or b) just takes him out.

    That's how a toned down Tarantino works. I personally love Jackie Brown. I think its brilliant, how a film can be so character driven (by a actress that started in B-movie near-porn) and create such a rich, involving story-line.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,570
    Agent005 wrote:
    I know that, but what are the chances that Tarantino will get to do a Bond film? We're all dreaming here...

    I think the chances are somewhere between no hope and Bob Hope.

    I like some of Tarantino's stuff. He writes well and his directing shows a great empathy with and love for cinema history.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,279
    I could definitely see Tarantino as a Bond director, but even more as a guest director doing a pre-title sequence. He could easily do an intence scene with the sharp dialogue and the tension of the Sergio Leone-like beginning in Inglourious Basterds.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 5,808
    Seve wrote:
    "Chief Winitou" indeed, you could count the number of German people in WW2 that would ever have heard of Chief Winitou on the fingers of one hand and still have four left over
    @-)

    You would be surprised. In fact, Winnetou was a very popular hero in Karl May's novels from the moment he was created in the 19th century. There was not a single german child who hadn't played at being either Winnetou or his friend Old Shatterhand. Hitler himself was a fan, and even told his commanders on the Eastern Front that they could learn much about tactics by reading the novels. So, yes, in World War Two, there were a lot of people in Germany who knew who Winnetou and Old Shatterhand were. More here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou

    As for Tarentino directing Bond, well, he already has some of Fleming's idiosyncrasises, such as going in tangents (remember the story of the Player's sailor in Thunderball ? or the list of poisonous plants in You Only Live Twice?) that may or may not have anything to do with the plot at hand.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    Torgeirtrap wrote:
    I could definitely see Tarantino as a Bond director, but even more as a guest director doing a pre-title sequence. He could easily do an intence scene with the sharp dialogue and the tension of the Sergio Leone-like beginning in Inglourious Basterds.

    Any director who would let him do that would commit directorial suicide, because I'm 86% positive nobody could follow up with a decent enough film to follow Tarantino's scene.

  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    http://www.showbizspy.com/article/189759/quentin-tarantino-daniel-craig-shouldnt-be-james-bond.html

    I know this may be fake, but it seems like tarantino prefers brosnan to craig. So if this is in any way true then I doubt we'll be seeing tarantino direct in the next couple of years.
  • CoH_GHOST_007CoH_GHOST_007
    Posts: 303
    I've only seen one Tarantino film, and that was: 'Inglorious Basterds', and from watching that film, (I can't speak for his other films, but) i would hate the idea, i hated Inglorious, and the direction was far TOO strange for my liking :/
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    SamueL L Jackson would have to have a part! Actually, I reckon he'd make a pretty decent Mr Big/Kananga in a remake of LALD which would suit QT quite well with his retro 70's tendencies.
  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    Good call with Jackson for BIG. But I would actually prefer LALD as a faithful period adaption of the book rather than a remake of the film.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    Posts: 357
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    IF he did Bond, and he never will, unless a 15 year old boy somehow becomes producer, he would do it like Jackie Brown. Dialogue based. Plot based.

    I personally love Jackie Brown. I think its brilliant, how a film can be so character driven (by a actress that started in B-movie near-porn) and create such a rich, involving story-line.

    yes, but Jackie Brown closely followed the excellent book by Elmore Leonard
    and he wouldn't have that crutch for Bond

  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
    Posts: 357
    Gerard wrote:
    Seve wrote:
    "Chief Winitou" indeed, you could count the number of German people in WW2 that would ever have heard of Chief Winitou on the fingers of one hand and still have four left over
    @-)

    You would be surprised. In fact, Winnetou was a very popular hero in Karl May's novels from the moment he was created in the 19th century. There was not a single german child who hadn't played at being either Winnetou or his friend Old Shatterhand. Hitler himself was a fan, and even told his commanders on the Eastern Front that they could learn much about tactics by reading the novels. So, yes, in World War Two, there were a lot of people in Germany who knew who Winnetou and Old Shatterhand were. More here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou

    doh!
    fair cop guv
    Tarantino 1 Seve 0
    #-o
  • TopGearJB007TopGearJB007
    edited November 2011 Posts: 624
    If they ever do a reboot of Bond again, in 2050, lol, It would be nice to see a retro film set in the 1950's with Tarantino sitting in the director's chair. He does wonderful period pieces.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    Seve wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    IF he did Bond, and he never will, unless a 15 year old boy somehow becomes producer, he would do it like Jackie Brown. Dialogue based. Plot based.

    I personally love Jackie Brown. I think its brilliant, how a film can be so character driven (by a actress that started in B-movie near-porn) and create such a rich, involving story-line.

    yes, but Jackie Brown closely followed the excellent book by Elmore Leonard
    and he wouldn't have that crutch for Bond

    How would he not? You cant deny Tarantino isn't one of the more.. profound.. writers in film. And he has TONNES of material from Fleming to work off of. A pretty good crutch remains, not that he would need one.
  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    Seve wrote:
    Gerard wrote:
    Seve wrote:
    "Chief Winitou" indeed, you could count the number of German people in WW2 that would ever have heard of Chief Winitou on the fingers of one hand and still have four left over
    @-)

    You would be surprised. In fact, Winnetou was a very popular hero in Karl May's novels from the moment he was created in the 19th century. There was not a single german child who hadn't played at being either Winnetou or his friend Old Shatterhand. Hitler himself was a fan, and even told his commanders on the Eastern Front that they could learn much about tactics by reading the novels. So, yes, in World War Two, there were a lot of people in Germany who knew who Winnetou and Old Shatterhand were. More here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnetou

    doh!
    fair cop guv
    Tarantino 1 Seve 0
    #-o

    Come to think of it I'm more surprised the SS guy knew Fu Manchu, don't think the books have been translated into German in the 1940s. Perhaps he has seen the films with Warner Oland or Boris Karloff.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Just going back to the point of this thread and whether anyone wants to agree or disagree I just can't ever envisage the man behind Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction ever Directing a Bond Movie or perhaps even being involved, something just doesn't sit right. This could well be some peoples dream scenario or fantasy but I don't think it will ever happen. I'm not a fan of his films really, not a fan of Tarantino himself, some would even go as far to suggest he's a bit exaggerated or dare I say it, overrated. Sorry.
  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    Tarantino has created himself his own genre, that's for sure. And it is a cannibalistic one as Tarantino would be the first to admit. Mayhap that's what makes him an intriguing speculation for the Bond series which owes already a lot to (self-)cannibalism. But I agree that Tarantino isn't a realistic option for EON, he's much too enfant-terrible for starters to hand him the gig. But I suppose he could give his own ego the backseat to such a job, it just happens that he isn't offered it.
  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    Posts: 1,261
    Okay, QT IMO is highly over-rated. RESERVOIR DOGS was awesome, PULP FICTION is good, but acually to me is not the masterpiece some people think of it. JACKIE BROWN was IMO much better, but, again, a bit lengthy. KILL BILL Vol.1 is okay (not brilliant), KILL BILL Vol. 2 is much better (compared to Vol. 1). DEATH PROOF was a waste of time for me. INGLORIOUS BASTERDS actually is carried by Chritsoph Waltz's mesmerizing performance (all the awards he got for that was fully deserved), but starts to be dragging in the scene, where Fassbender and the co-IB's meet at the tavern and actually being killed there. This scene runs for about 30 minutes, but feels almost as lasting for an hour. Tarantino's strenghts lies within his witty dialogues (altough he starts to overdo these, like in IB) and creating interested characters, but all his movies were and are hommages to B- or even C-pictures. And his liking of crude violenec actually would exclude all people younger than 18 years to watch it, and MGW and BB consider the Bond movies to be suitable for - almost - the whole family... Plus he will cast Samuel L Jackson as M or Q ...
    If he would be asked to do a treatmend of the basic plot and then being rewritten and revised by other authors.
    Oh, and his crying and moaning for not having been offered to direct CR was rather annoying...
  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    Yep, as if anybody already owed him the gig, not really worthy of a cool cat.

    That said I think Tarantino will tackle spies in the end. There was talk about the Bernard Samson books back a few years and I could see him doing one of the American series, Matt Helm or Man from Uncle maybe.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,570
    Kennon wrote:
    Yep, as if anybody already owed him the gig, not really worthy of a cool cat.

    That said I think Tarantino will tackle spies in the end. There was talk about the Bernard Samson books back a few years and I could see him doing one of the American series, Matt Helm or Man from Uncle maybe.

    A Tarantino slant on MFU or Matt Helm would be interesting although it would upset the purists.
    As for Samson, please no. They deserve a movie treatment but not QT.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    NicNac wrote:
    A Tarantino slant on MFU or Matt Helm would be interesting although it would upset the purists.
    As for Samson, please no. They deserve a movie treatment but not QT.

    He wouldn't do MFU right. If he does spies, I either want him part of a team for Bond (which he wont do) or doing something completely on his own. He wont do a cover for a book because he has had plenty of issues with that in the past (True Romance was not done the way he intended, but he is credited as the writer for it). Besides, QT original is always better, and if he writes I prefer him to direct. -Except on the topic of him doing character development for Bond :)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 13,928
    I'd be curious to see what Tarantino can do with Bond. I could see him strictly being a writer and providing ideas for the director, but if he gets to write then he'll want to direct too, and I doubt he'll get that opportunity.
  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    NicNac wrote:
    Kennon wrote:
    Yep, as if anybody already owed him the gig, not really worthy of a cool cat.

    That said I think Tarantino will tackle spies in the end. There was talk about the Bernard Samson books back a few years and I could see him doing one of the American series, Matt Helm or Man from Uncle maybe.

    A Tarantino slant on MFU or Matt Helm would be interesting although it would upset the purists.
    As for Samson, please no. They deserve a movie treatment but not QT.

    Don't see myself why he talked about Samson (if he did, not sure there), doesn't strike me as what usually attracts him. I'd have put him down with Helm or The Executioner or even that French series SAS Malko, with plenty of opportunity for his preferred elements.
  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    I don't know whether this has been posted anywhere but Quentin Tarantino, the 'Pulp Fiction' director, criticises the latest James Bond film 'Skyfall'.

    The James Bond film Skyfall has been nominated for five Academy Awards and eight Baftas, but it has failed to impress Quentin Tarantino.

    “To me, it felt more like an action movie than a Bond movie,” the American director tells Mandrake at the premiere of his latest film, Django Unchained, at the Empire Leicester Square, in London.

    Tarantino, whose hits include Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs, says it is a mistake for film fans to expect success for Skyfall: “I don’t think that is the one you should be rooting for.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/9796473/Quentin-Tarantino-Why-Skyfall-is-no-James-Bond-film.html
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