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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Starving for B26 news, they turned their attention to...a chair. Let's look at the facts. What do we know? There's a chair in there. And a bear as well? No no, that's just the grizzly tension between Bond and Saunders. By the way, if you're just tuning in now, welcome to 'The Official MI6 Community Chair Thread', 'Where everyone gets a seat and the topic has legs'.

    P.S. Anyone know the brand of chair?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Starving for B26 news, they turned their attention to...a chair. Let's look at the facts. What do we know? There's a chair in there. And a bear as well? No no, that's just the grizzly tension between Bond and Saunders. By the way, if you're just tuning in now, welcome to 'The Official MI6 Community Chair Thread', 'Where everyone gets a seat and the topic has legs'.

    P.S. Anyone know the brand of chair?

    @QBranch, never failing to bring a ray of sunshine to my dark days. :-D
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,590
    Come on @QBranch it’s clearly an IKEA chair.
    Bond has just finished making it, which is why he asked Saunders to bring it.
    It’s not for him to rest his insanely large gun on while he keeps a look out for the sniper.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 6,198
    It's just a chair. No need for things to turn naaasssty....

    ;)
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair the strawberry jam line in that scene is pretty overwrought. The chair line is subtle by comparison! But yes, they’re quite funny. A quirk of Dalton’s acting. It doesn’t ruin the scene or anything and I think he does well showing Bond’s professional side.

    I've never minded either of those line deliveries myself. The chair one, I thought, was supposed to be humorous. As if you're expecting him to say something really important and then he just tells him to bring the chair.

    As for 'strawberry jam', I find him cocking the rifle right on ‘jam’, oddly satisfying. Is that just me?

    Maybe a bit overdramatic, but still fine. All of the Bonds have had one or two strange line readings (yes, even Craig).

    Yes, I would say it's very satisfying too!

    I think most of the actors have random quirks or line deliveries I personally find funny. Roger Moore's 'ooofs' whenever he was punched (which sounds to me like it's the same one reused over and over again) is one I'm fond of. Brosnan has his share of quirky deliveries too.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 8,608
    😂 And I notice the Chairman himself, who started this has gone quiet! Must be because @Benny has appeared! 😂
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,590
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    😂 And I notice the Chairman himself, who started this has gone quiet! Must be because @Benny has appeared! 😂

    Because I’m the bogeyman…the Voldemort of MI6 Community…he who shall not be answered.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,411
    Benny wrote: »
    Come on @QBranch it’s clearly an IKEA chair.
    I know my chairs like Saunders knows night vision goggles.

    It's beginning to look like the sniper chair could perch with the classic Bond seats, such as the torture chairs from TWINE/CR/SP, Kananga's many trick seats in the Fillet of Soul, the chairs Bond uses against Klebb, Bouvar, swordfish etc. - not to mention the many couch gags throughout the series. Looking forward to cataloguing them all.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    For me the whole Koskov escape in TLD is the best scene in the entire franchise. Chair or no chair.

    Now, I'll be off again before someone dismisses my opinion as wrong. Ciao!
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 8,608
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    For me the whole Koskov escape in TLD is the best scene in the entire franchise. Chair or no chair.

    Now, I'll be off again before someone dismisses my opinion as wrong. Ciao!

    Not me, mate! It's certainly a contender!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 1:26pm Posts: 19,479
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It wasn’t a problem for Boyle. He’s openly said Bond’s death and the daughter were included in his script. Where on earth did you hear he was dismissed because of him not wanting Bond to die?

    To be fair, I do remember reading stories (tabloid stories, but stories nonetheless) about Boyle's departure being over Bond's death. Some suggested he was against it, others said he was the one pushing for it and EON weren't having it.

    Yeah, there was talk at the time he’d been ditched because he wanted to kill off Bond and the Brocs were against it: that was the reason why I wasn’t entirely surprised by Bond’s death in NTTD because that news had put the idea in my head.
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Your friend missed the point! Dalton was showing Bonds distaste for this mission. He was there to kill a sniper, and it was a foul business, Bond was good at his job, but didn't always like what was ordered to do! Pure Fleming. That opening scene is one of the finest in the series!

    I think he just wanted the chair :)
    How annoying. Not the disagreement, just how Mathis is elaborating on their point of view and this comment just dismisses all that. A smiley face at the end doesn't really make it any better; in fact, it makes it more annoying as it comes across as contradictory rather than conciliatory. Perhaps you don't like how he said your friend missed the point? I can understand if that was a bit annoying as well.

    I found the ‘missing the point’ response a bit annoying, yes - especially when I’m talking about having a bit of fun with a mate, so I didn’t think a slight dismissal was undeserved. Obviously I know what’s happening in the scene, it can still be overplayed. At least I was trying to keep it friendly.
    And my reply had a point: not all lines need deep meaning pored into them.
    Look, it’s a very theatrical and actorly set of line readings, if you enjoy that then fine- I like the film an awful lot too and I’ve loved this scene as much as anyone even if it makes no sense, but we’re fans and we should be able to take this stuff a bit less seriously and have a giggle now and then at some of the creakier aspects without having to say ‘it says something about’ any of us in a pointed and aggressive way (I’m not talking about you).

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 1:09pm Posts: 19,479
    007HallY wrote: »
    It's just a chair. No need for things to turn naaasssty....

    ;)
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair the strawberry jam line in that scene is pretty overwrought. The chair line is subtle by comparison! But yes, they’re quite funny. A quirk of Dalton’s acting. It doesn’t ruin the scene or anything and I think he does well showing Bond’s professional side.

    I've never minded either of those line deliveries myself. The chair one, I thought, was supposed to be humorous. As if you're expecting him to say something really important and then he just tells him to bring the chair.

    As for 'strawberry jam', I find him cocking the rifle right on ‘jam’, oddly satisfying. Is that just me?

    Maybe a bit overdramatic, but still fine. All of the Bonds have had one or two strange line readings (yes, even Craig).

    Yes, I would say it's very satisfying too!

    I think most of the actors have random quirks or line deliveries I personally find funny. Roger Moore's 'ooofs' whenever he was punched (which sounds to me like it's the same one reused over and over again) is one I'm fond of. Brosnan has his share of quirky deliveries too.

    I once edited a super cut of those onto cassette :D From memory there’s an extra long one which we get when he goes out of Octopussy’s bedroom window into the crocs which we get again on the Golden Gate Bridge, maybe in between too! :D

    I’m sure someone will post a rolleyes emoji at me for not taking Sir Roger’s deep and meaningful cries of fear seriously enough, but what can you do.

    (Edit: Sorry for the double post- I thought I saw someone had posted after me but it was one of those phantom next page things)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    A chair is still a chair, says Dionne:

  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 6,198
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It's just a chair. No need for things to turn naaasssty....

    ;)
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    To be fair the strawberry jam line in that scene is pretty overwrought. The chair line is subtle by comparison! But yes, they’re quite funny. A quirk of Dalton’s acting. It doesn’t ruin the scene or anything and I think he does well showing Bond’s professional side.

    I've never minded either of those line deliveries myself. The chair one, I thought, was supposed to be humorous. As if you're expecting him to say something really important and then he just tells him to bring the chair.

    As for 'strawberry jam', I find him cocking the rifle right on ‘jam’, oddly satisfying. Is that just me?

    Maybe a bit overdramatic, but still fine. All of the Bonds have had one or two strange line readings (yes, even Craig).

    Yes, I would say it's very satisfying too!

    I think most of the actors have random quirks or line deliveries I personally find funny. Roger Moore's 'ooofs' whenever he was punched (which sounds to me like it's the same one reused over and over again) is one I'm fond of. Brosnan has his share of quirky deliveries too.

    I once edited a super cut of those onto cassette :D From memory there’s an extra long one which we get when he goes out of Octopussy’s bedroom window into the crocs which we get again on the Golden Gate Bridge, maybe in between too! :D

    I’m sure someone will post a rolleyes emoji at me for not taking Sir Roger’s deep and meaningful cries of fear seriously enough, but what can you do.

    (Edit: Sorry for the double post- I thought I saw someone had posted after me but it was one of those phantom next page things)

    Haha, nice!

    Anyway, these things can be funny, albeit in an in-joke way. I don't watch any Star Trek, but I'm guessing the equivalent for that franchise would be some of Patrick Stewart's dramatic line readings that even I know ('line must be drawn heyyya!' etc) because they became memes or were quoted somewhere else. Doesn't take away from how much people like the performances/character, but they're quirks of very expressive, theatrical actors playing for the screen.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 2:07pm Posts: 19,479
    Funnily enough I’ve always found Pat Stewart and Dalton similar, must be a Northern ac-tor thing: I actually think they even look alike!
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 8,608
    mtm wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    It wasn’t a problem for Boyle. He’s openly said Bond’s death and the daughter were included in his script. Where on earth did you hear he was dismissed because of him not wanting Bond to die?

    To be fair, I do remember reading stories (tabloid stories, but stories nonetheless) about Boyle's departure being over Bond's death. Some suggested he was against it, others said he was the one pushing for it and EON weren't having it.

    Yeah, there was talk at the time he’d been ditched because he wanted to kill off Bond and the Brocs were against it: that was the reason why I wasn’t entirely surprised by Bond’s death in NTTD because that news had put the idea in my head.
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Your friend missed the point! Dalton was showing Bonds distaste for this mission. He was there to kill a sniper, and it was a foul business, Bond was good at his job, but didn't always like what was ordered to do! Pure Fleming. That opening scene is one of the finest in the series!

    I think he just wanted the chair :)
    How annoying. Not the disagreement, just how Mathis is elaborating on their point of view and this comment just dismisses all that. A smiley face at the end doesn't really make it any better; in fact, it makes it more annoying as it comes across as contradictory rather than conciliatory. Perhaps you don't like how he said your friend missed the point? I can understand if that was a bit annoying as well.

    I found the ‘missing the point’ response a bit annoying, yes - especially when I’m talking about having a bit of fun with a mate, so I didn’t think a slight dismissal was undeserved. Obviously I know what’s happening in the scene, it can still be overplayed. At least I was trying to keep it friendly.
    And my reply had a point: not all lines need deep meaning pored into them.
    Look, it’s a very theatrical and actorly set of line readings, if you enjoy that then fine- I like the film an awful lot too and I’ve loved this scene as much as anyone even if it makes no sense, but we’re fans and we should be able to take this stuff a bit less seriously and have a giggle now and then at some of the creakier aspects without having to say ‘it says something about’ any of us in a pointed and aggressive way (I’m not talking about you).

    Nothing aggressive about it at all. You were put out because the rest of us didnt share you and your mates humour, at laughing at that scene! I simply stated that it seemed to be only you and mate that find it funny! Anyway, thread is derailed enough. I broke my pledge of ignoring your posts ( which is quite difficult since you seem to be in so many threads!) shall return to @Birdleson s advice of ignoring someone who annoys you! Sound advice, that I didn't stick to!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 3:50pm Posts: 19,479
    Ah, right, I did wonder why you’ve been posting odd salty replies to my comments, and this one too. I’m sorry if I’ve annoyed you, I'm not sure what the issue is, but not much more I can say I guess.
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