Lashana Lynch as 007 and the Women of 'No Time to Die' (SPOILERS!)

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  • Posts: 19,339
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone feeling a little embarrassed to be a Bond fan at the moment?

    No yet,but i'm close.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    Posts: 5,185
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone feeling a little embarrassed to be a Bond fan at the moment?

    I did for the first couple days but I'm kinda over it. Can't feel responsible for how stupid other people are.
  • Posts: 1,165
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone feeling a little embarrassed to be a Bond fan at the moment?
    No. Why do you ask?

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,038
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone feeling a little embarrassed to be a Bond fan at the moment?

    Not quite there yet. But it's only Thursday.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,985
    RC7 wrote: »
    Anyone feeling a little embarrassed to be a Bond fan at the moment?

    I just find the whole situation quite laughable at the moment...

    Hopefully embarrassment isn't something i'll feel when i see the finished product.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,985
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    Nomi will not lose her status. I'm calling it right now, there will be a scene at the end of the movie where Craig hands off the mantle to her and she gets either a spin-off series or becomes 007 forever.

    God I hope not...that would put me off going to see the film for sure.
    I would probably rent it on SKY when it comes out,to see if I can tolerate it before I think about buying it.

    They almost did it after DAD, remember? The character Jinx was all set up to be in a spin-off series, strong black woman and all.

    Yep...but not as 007....THATS the problem.

    Doesn't matter. See, it's the slowly boiling frog analogy. When precedence is set, it's easier to push the agenda forward into a more focused, physical, and more powerful reality. Jinx was just a first, tentative step. In today's hyper PC culture, the #metoo movement, the active push against "toxic masculinity", and everything else, this is all they need.

    Perhaps Bond 25's title should be

    Toxic Masculinity

    ;))

    MG wanted

    Death To Spies

    but Phoebe Waller-Bridge telephoned Babs and said "don't listen to him, go with Toxic Masculinity!"

    "Don't you think that's a bit too extreme, Phoebe?"

    "Well I actually prefer 'Kill All Men' as the title, Barbara, but 'Toxic Masculinity' will do!"


    :D

    'The Woke Is Not Enough'.......i'll get my coat....
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,025
    I don’t feel embarrassed. Sexist racists are gonna do what they’re gonna do.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    I don’t feel embarrassed. Sexist racists are gonna do what they’re gonna do.

    I always make the naive mistake of thinking we’re a bit of a cut above your average hardcore fan base. This week has shown me that we certainly aren’t.
  • Posts: 2,491
    You know what's the worst part of this entire thing?

    When the new 007 will have a small role and non-fans with 10 IQ will attack the Bond franchise for ...whatever reason

    It will be even worse than Bond fans who think that new 007 is same as new Bond and are having issues with it

    The only problem I have with the whole thing is how we are seeing the "Damn, Bond is kinda old tho" story line 3 times in a row and these stories are seeming non-creative at all.

    Bond being retired - forced.

    Bond and Blofeld being brothers - forced

    Bond and Madeline's relationship - forced

    Bond and Madeline ending up together - forced

    The whole Blofeld thing - forced

    So... a movie which is a continuation of another movie full of forcing things... cannot escape forcing stuff. So it has to follow up on Bond and Madeline... it has to follow up on Bond and SPECTRE... It has to follow up on Bond and Blofeld... it has to follow up on Bond being retired...

    Of course this whole thing is forced.

    SkyFall - Bond "dies" in the PTS and enjoys "retirement/death"

    SPECTRE - Bond goes rogue

    B25 - Bond is retired

    Come on.............
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited July 2019 Posts: 5,869
    @dragonsky I agree that the content of Spectre was unfortunate but I don't think Bond 25 should bare the burden of another films mistakes. Bond 25 has been kind of written into a corner, which I think was the start of their problems. Skyfall was easy cause it was a fresh start and Spectre should've been but failed. Bond 25 is gonna do it's own thing to be the best film it can but it couldn't have avoided the storylines it's going to deal with.
  • edited July 2019 Posts: 6,677
    RC7 wrote: »
    I don’t feel embarrassed. Sexist racists are gonna do what they’re gonna do.

    I always make the naive mistake of thinking we’re a bit of a cut above your average hardcore fan base. This week has shown me that we certainly aren’t.

    +1

    Right? How sad is that?
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,894
    I see Anna De Armas images...

    giphy.gif


    I don't feel any more embarrassed to be a Bond fan, than I do about those on the opposing 'side' (for want of a better word) appointing themselves Racismfinder Generals. Fans, because they are still fans on both sides, need to take Frankie's advice and just.... relax.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    I see Anna De Armas images...

    giphy.gif


    I don't feel any more embarrassed to be a Bond fan, than I do about those on the opposing 'side' (for want of a better word) appointing themselves Racismfinder Generals. Fans, because they are still fans on both sides, need to take Frankie's advice and just.... relax.

    Some of us are in the middle, which is the problem. It’s just two sides bleating.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    dragonsky wrote: »
    You know what's the worst part of this entire thing?

    When the new 007 will have a small role and non-fans with 10 IQ will attack the Bond franchise for ...whatever reason

    It will be even worse than Bond fans who think that new 007 is same as new Bond and are having issues with it

    The only problem I have with the whole thing is how we are seeing the "Damn, Bond is kinda old tho" story line 3 times in a row and these stories are seeming non-creative at all.

    Bond being retired - forced.

    Bond and Blofeld being brothers - forced

    Bond and Madeline's relationship - forced

    Bond and Madeline ending up together - forced

    The whole Blofeld thing - forced

    So... a movie which is a continuation of another movie full of forcing things... cannot escape forcing stuff. So it has to follow up on Bond and Madeline... it has to follow up on Bond and SPECTRE... It has to follow up on Bond and Blofeld... it has to follow up on Bond being retired...

    Of course this whole thing is forced.

    SkyFall - Bond "dies" in the PTS and enjoys "retirement/death"

    SPECTRE - Bond goes rogue

    B25 - Bond is retired

    Come on.............

    You do have a point hopefully next era will change that
  • infoviseinfovise Ireland
    Posts: 114
    I've had my optimism goggles on since the start of the production and I won't be taking them off anytime soon. I truly believe it will be a good Bond film. The only thing that somewhat embarrasses me as a Bond fan at the moment is the way some people are reacting to the Nomi news, especially those YouTube channels who always have something to give out about being 'woke'.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    infovise wrote: »
    I've had my optimism goggles on since the start of the production and I won't be taking them off anytime soon. I truly believe it will be a good Bond film. The only thing that somewhat embarrasses me as a Bond fan at the moment is the way some people are reacting to the Nomi news, especially those YouTube channels who always have something to give out about being 'woke'.

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    edited July 2019 Posts: 3,497
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    You know what's the worst part of this entire thing?

    When the new 007 will have a small role and non-fans with 10 IQ will attack the Bond franchise for ...whatever reason

    It will be even worse than Bond fans who think that new 007 is same as new Bond and are having issues with it

    The only problem I have with the whole thing is how we are seeing the "Damn, Bond is kinda old tho" story line 3 times in a row and these stories are seeming non-creative at all.

    Bond being retired - forced.

    Bond and Blofeld being brothers - forced

    Bond and Madeline's relationship - forced

    Bond and Madeline ending up together - forced

    The whole Blofeld thing - forced

    So... a movie which is a continuation of another movie full of forcing things... cannot escape forcing stuff. So it has to follow up on Bond and Madeline... it has to follow up on Bond and SPECTRE... It has to follow up on Bond and Blofeld... it has to follow up on Bond being retired...

    Of course this whole thing is forced.

    SkyFall - Bond "dies" in the PTS and enjoys "retirement/death"

    SPECTRE - Bond goes rogue

    B25 - Bond is retired

    Come on.............

    You do have a point hopefully next era will change that

    The only forced thing on that list is the Blofeld thing. Imho. It was executed horribly . I personally would not have included him in this picture bare a small reference.

    That will be another "forced" thing, but again: the nitpicking about Craig's era has baffled me. He went rogue before, he did controversial stuff before... BETRAYING M? WUT?

    And did you know that "OH NOES A BLACK 007" is now on the main page of this far right newssite here in Belgium?
  • infoviseinfovise Ireland
    Posts: 114


    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions [/quote]

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.[/quote]

    Yes
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    You know what's the worst part of this entire thing?

    When the new 007 will have a small role and non-fans with 10 IQ will attack the Bond franchise for ...whatever reason

    It will be even worse than Bond fans who think that new 007 is same as new Bond and are having issues with it

    The only problem I have with the whole thing is how we are seeing the "Damn, Bond is kinda old tho" story line 3 times in a row and these stories are seeming non-creative at all.

    Bond being retired - forced.

    Bond and Blofeld being brothers - forced

    Bond and Madeline's relationship - forced

    Bond and Madeline ending up together - forced

    The whole Blofeld thing - forced

    So... a movie which is a continuation of another movie full of forcing things... cannot escape forcing stuff. So it has to follow up on Bond and Madeline... it has to follow up on Bond and SPECTRE... It has to follow up on Bond and Blofeld... it has to follow up on Bond being retired...

    Of course this whole thing is forced.

    SkyFall - Bond "dies" in the PTS and enjoys "retirement/death"

    SPECTRE - Bond goes rogue

    B25 - Bond is retired

    Come on.............

    You do have a point hopefully next era will change that

    The only forced thing on that list is the Blofeld thing. Imho. It was executed horribly . I personally would not have included him in this picture bare a small reference.

    That will be another "forced" thing, but again: the nitpicking about Craig's era has baffled me. He went rogue before, he did controversial stuff before... BETRAYING M? WUT?

    And did you know that "OH NOES A BLACK 007" is now on the main page of this far right newssite here in Belgium?

    Well that's the wide gap of society for ya be it far right or far left. Yeah they really didn't plan this era out well which who knows if they really do or not everything definitely seems on the fly.
  • Posts: 1,092
    bondsum wrote: »
    For those that want to read the Telegraph article written by Madeline Grant titled "We hardcore Bond fans crave escapism - not a morality tale of #MeToo and toxic masculinity" but can't due to the newspaper website having a paywall, Nerdrotic on Youtube shows it in full and gives it his own breakdown.


    Watching this right now... it's spot on.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,025
    It’s amusing to me how those who claim be above race and gender get easily triggered when stuff like this happens with fictional entertainment.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.[/quote]

    We are overdue for a teaser.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    It’s amusing to me how those who claim be above race and gender get easily triggered when stuff like this happens with fictional entertainment.

    I keep going back and forth on this thing is he retired before the me too thing so maybe its coincidental and then not to be relevant to today's world I don't know
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.

    We are overdue for a teaser.[/quote]

    I actually wrote that opinions part
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.

    We are overdue for a teaser.

    I actually wrote that opinions part [/quote]

    Yes, and?
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.

    We are overdue for a teaser.

    I actually wrote that opinions part

    Yes, and? [/quote]

    Give me Royalties lol
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
    Posts: 3,497
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.

    We are overdue for a teaser.

    I actually wrote that opinions part

    Yes, and?

    Give me Royalties lol[/quote]

    :-j
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »
    JamesCraig wrote: »
    infovise wrote: »

    Yeah unfortunately it will probably taint the film for people because of opinions

    Hopefully once the teaser trailer drops people's worries will be laid to rest.

    We are overdue for a teaser.

    I actually wrote that opinions part

    Yes, and?

    Give me Royalties lol

    :-j [/quote]

    😂
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,038
    Seriously lads, use the quote function correctly and stop these visual stains on our beloved board.
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