No Time to Die production thread

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I loathe the idea of killing off Bond in any way, shape or form. If it's some fake-out scenario, whatever, I'd be fine with it.
  • To pull a fake out would be worse!

    I don’t want Bond so to no memory leaving to use he loves. Even if he thinks they’re safer without him.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @QBranch, haha, that's very random amongst the other three but I love it!
    A bit odd isn't it? Was gonna postpone buying that mag because the price was high, but gave in when I saw two Bond posters! Don't think I have a TWINE poster either.

    Not so odd. Every month since last year there's a Bond special analyzing every film since Dr. No (some articles have been written by Archivo007's Óscar Rubio). Each magazine has the poster of each Bond movie! This month is turn for TWINE and, of course, NTTD...
    Contraband wrote: »

    I saw it live ;) Sadly it wasn't very interesting. She said it was a big honor to be a part of Cinema History and that the role was written for her (as we all know).

    Bond is sent to Cuba expecting a CIA agent and Paloma has had only three weeks of training. Ana told that she also had only three weeks to prepare the role, so when Paloma said that line in the film it was very funny for everybody. She felt like Paloma!

    She also told that she finished Blonde a Friday and started to film NTTD the very next Monday.

    Craig was training for Bond during Knives Out but, of course, she had no idea then about her casting.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited September 2021 Posts: 4,547
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I loathe the idea of killing off Bond in any way, shape or form. If it's some fake-out scenario, whatever, I'd be fine with it.

    I keep coming back to what Mallory told him in SF, about going on pretending he's dead, that agents don't get that clean break. The whole dead/living/resurrection theme has been an undercurrent during the whole DC era, so it seems fitting that he'd "survive death."
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Knives Out is the reason I'm glad Craig and Ana don't seem to be having a romance in No Time to Die. I know it's acting and not real, but to go from having a somewhat paternal relationship in one film to romantic in another not long after, would just be a little bit odd in my opinion.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    mtm wrote: »
    I'm loving the mad fashions.

    Mr Craig going for no socks! In London in late September!

    I can''t see him in socks and not think of Blofeld in Morocco.
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    QsCat wrote: »
    *Earlier post of mine**
    I would like Bond to die at the end of this. This would be truly heroic and it would be the ultimate example of putting his job first. He knows the risk of the job, he knows he faces death. He ought to willingly sacrifice himself if necessary; particularly if the threat is as immense as the trailer suggests. Bond throwing himself into his certain death would suit Craig's Bond perfectly and would be tragic yet appropriate.
    So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?
    The audience will surely know it doesn't mean the end of the franchise .. they know there'll be a new actor next time. It has happened often enough.
    I will be disappointed if Bond survives the end of the film. I want to see a bold end to his tenure which perfectly captures his Bond, rather than something we have seen before.
    ***
    Come on guys, I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this. I suspect some of you know the ending of the film and don't want to reply and spoil if for me, or others. Which is what I'd prefer.
    Does anyone else feel the same or more this?-
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    I would have previously been more open to the idea but then Skyfall repositioned Bond from pulp hero to mythic hero, and mythic heroes do not truly die - they have a death of sorts but then a perseverance after that.

    Bond of course has fakeout deaths aplenty but I I'm betting heavily he will sustain a sort of Arthurian quasi-demise like at Camlann or what have you but the promise of rebirth from Avalon will be there too.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 493
    TripAces wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I loathe the idea of killing off Bond in any way, shape or form. If it's some fake-out scenario, whatever, I'd be fine with it.

    I keep coming back to what Mallory told him in SF, about going on pretending he's dead, that agents don't get that clean break. The whole dead/living/resurrection theme has been an undercurrent during the whole DC era, so it seems fitting that he'd "survive death."

    Exactly.

    The whole thematic idea of the Craig films is he traded humanity when he became a 00 (licence to kill = power over death = death god). He got a power, but this power came at a cost — Blofeld's line in Spectre, "all the women you ever loved died". That's the cost. Or the opening line in "You Know My Name":

    If you take a life, do you know what you give?

    Odds are you won't like what it is.

    Everything he touches dies. Everywhere he goes is dead — his vacant childhood home, his barren apartment. Quantum of Solace taking place in a desert with a plot revolving around water shortages (water=life). It's all death!

    Now Madeleine, she's the opposite. Think about it. Not just as woman (mythologically speaking — women are life via the power to have children), but she's also a doctor. What's a doctor (healing) but the literal opposite of an assassin? And also think about her upbringing — she came out of an organization of death, yet still has these powers of life.

    God of death; Goddess of life.

    No Time to Die, broadly, will be a story of finding the "missing mother" (life) and reintegrating the feminine he traded in the beginning of Casino Royale . This will, in some way, be accomplished by "undoing" that trade — giving up his power of death. Spectre ends this way too, because it has to.

    Very significant that
    his child is a DAUGHTER and not a son. From his seed, a girl. Life. Not death. Just like White!

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Not so odd. Every month since last year there's a Bond special analyzing every film since Dr. No (some articles have been written by Archivo007's Óscar Rubio). Each magazine has the poster of each Bond movie! This month is turn for TWINE and, of course, NTTD...
    Cheers, it all becomes clear. Pretty cool that they dedicated each issue to Bond.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I loathe the idea of killing off Bond in any way, shape or form. If it's some fake-out scenario, whatever, I'd be fine with it.
    I hate to say this, but if Bond were to die, so would my interest in the character. I wouldn't abandon the franchise, but it would leave me disenchanted. I think some would bail.
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I'm loving the mad fashions.
    Mr Craig going for no socks! In London in late September!
    I can''t see him in socks and not think of Blofeld in Morocco.
    Yeah, for a second there I thought Craig dressed as Blofeld for a piss-take. Horrible look!
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    QsCat wrote: »
    *Earlier post of mine**
    I would like Bond to die at the end of this. This would be truly heroic and it would be the ultimate example of putting his job first. He knows the risk of the job, he knows he faces death. He ought to willingly sacrifice himself if necessary; particularly if the threat is as immense as the trailer suggests. Bond throwing himself into his certain death would suit Craig's Bond perfectly and would be tragic yet appropriate.
    So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?
    The audience will surely know it doesn't mean the end of the franchise .. they know there'll be a new actor next time. It has happened often enough.
    I will be disappointed if Bond survives the end of the film. I want to see a bold end to his tenure which perfectly captures his Bond, rather than something we have seen before.
    ***
    Come on guys, I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this. I suspect some of you know the ending of the film and don't want to reply and spoil if for me, or others. Which is what I'd prefer.
    Does anyone else feel the same or more this?-
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    Hmmmm....hmmm....hmmm.....nah.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,285
    Even with another soft reboot or whatever direction they take with the next era, if they chose to kill Bond off for any reason, it certainly wouldn't sit well with me and would leave a very bad taste in my mouth.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2021 Posts: 4,343
    Guys let’s face it. Final Ascent screams sacrifice. It’s a bulletproof statement. The best case scenario is a TDKR type of ending. Bond is presumed dead but the very last scene confirms in some way he’s indeed alive.
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
    edited September 2021 Posts: 1,165
    Almost seems too predictable, don't you think? I would almost lean more towards Maddy making the sacrifice than Bond just to shake things up. Though, as others have predicted, this would be a rare opportunity to have Bond "die" and then adapt the opening of TMWTGG for the next movie as a shocking introduction to our new James Bond.
  • leas_moleleas_mole love is the promise of suffering
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    I would be mightily annoyed if they killed off Bond.

    I hope there is a more original ending to DC's tenure
  • Posts: 493
    matt_u wrote: »
    Guys let’s face it. Final Ascent screams sacrifice. It’s a bulletproof statement. The best case scenario is a TDKR type of ending. Bond is presumed dead but the very last scene confirms in some way he’s indeed alive.

    "Ascent", or rebirth.
  • edited September 2021 Posts: 1,215
    I don’t have any issue with killing Bond, particularly in this film. They’ve established Craig’s continuity as separate from the rest so it doesn’t have any implications for the future or bringing Bond back. Thematically it also makes sense as they’ve gone to great lengths to show Bond’s humanity and vulnerability and him making the ultimate sacrifice would be a fitting conclusion to that. That being said, Barbara had described the ending as emotionally satisfying and I’m not sure Bond’s death would be described that way. When I think emotionally satisfying, I imagine that Bond finally gets what he’s always wanted but could never have; love, family, and a future.
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    Killing bond is a cheap trick.

    I think personally that he will be declared Mia/dead, which will in reality allow him and Madeleine to retire to a quiet life.

    Be cool if he witnessed his own “funeral”, and only m q and mp knew the truth.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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  • QsCatQsCat London
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    delfloria wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    QsCat wrote: »
    *Earlier post of mine**
    I would like Bond to die at the end of this. This would be truly heroic and it would be the ultimate example of putting his job first. He knows the risk of the job, he knows he faces death. He ought to willingly sacrifice himself if necessary; particularly if the threat is as immense as the trailer suggests. Bond throwing himself into his certain death would suit Craig's Bond perfectly and would be tragic yet appropriate.
    So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?
    The audience will surely know it doesn't mean the end of the franchise .. they know there'll be a new actor next time. It has happened often enough.
    I will be disappointed if Bond survives the end of the film. I want to see a bold end to his tenure which perfectly captures his Bond, rather than something we have seen before.
    ***
    Come on guys, I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this. I suspect some of you know the ending of the film and don't want to reply and spoil if for me, or others. Which is what I'd prefer.
    Does anyone else feel the same or more this?-
    cr.gif?resize=660%2C276

    > So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?

    Emulating reality isn't the purpose of fiction, quite the opposite actually. Expression, not impression.

    He very well may "die" in the end, but there would a "rebirth" to it. Because that's how these hero/god stories work. Birth, death, rebirth.

    Simply put, I think that he should not die and that it would be a very poor decision on EON to go down that path.

    Why?
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    It’s in line with Fleming to kill bond. At least in a FRWL type way
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ha! I like Craig saying "It's pretend!" :D
    It really looks fun tonight.

    I know it's obvious -he's James bleedin' Bond after all- but he doesn't half look great.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    mtm wrote: »
    Ha! I like Craig saying "It's pretend!" :D
    It really looks fun tonight.

    I know it's obvious -he's James bleedin' Bond after all- but he doesn't half look great.

    He's been on the good ol' sunbeds hasn't he :))
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    TripAces wrote: »
    cwl007 wrote: »
    For any one in UK: if you can, don't listen to the Ali Plumb interview with DC on BBC Sounds, instead watch it on iPlayer. I've done both and the visual one has clips to back up the conversation making it more enjoyable than the podcast version.

    I have to hand it to DC. How many times is he going to be asked, "What advice do you have for the next James Bond?" So far, each time, he has laughed and acted like it's a question he's never heard before.

    Had it on earlier in the background- the same old questions. Then started listening to the most recent podcast- same old questions..
    All of his interviews are the same.
    Is Norton tonight or next week? Might tune in, hoping for something a bit different than every other interview.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    QsCat wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    cwl007 wrote: »
    For any one in UK: if you can, don't listen to the Ali Plumb interview with DC on BBC Sounds, instead watch it on iPlayer. I've done both and the visual one has clips to back up the conversation making it more enjoyable than the podcast version.

    I have to hand it to DC. How many times is he going to be asked, "What advice do you have for the next James Bond?" So far, each time, he has laughed and acted like it's a question he's never heard before.

    Had it on earlier in the background- the same old questions. Then started listening to the most recent podcast- same old questions..
    All of his interviews are the same.
    Is Norton tonight or next week? Might tune in, hoping for something a bit different than every other interview.

    Norton is tonight at 1035pm.
  • QsCatQsCat London
    Posts: 251
    BMB007 wrote: »
    QsCat wrote: »
    *Earlier post of mine**
    I would like Bond to die at the end of this. This would be truly heroic and it would be the ultimate example of putting his job first. He knows the risk of the job, he knows he faces death. He ought to willingly sacrifice himself if necessary; particularly if the threat is as immense as the trailer suggests. Bond throwing himself into his certain death would suit Craig's Bond perfectly and would be tragic yet appropriate.
    So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?
    The audience will surely know it doesn't mean the end of the franchise .. they know there'll be a new actor next time. It has happened often enough.
    I will be disappointed if Bond survives the end of the film. I want to see a bold end to his tenure which perfectly captures his Bond, rather than something we have seen before.
    ***
    Come on guys, I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this. I suspect some of you know the ending of the film and don't want to reply and spoil if for me, or others. Which is what I'd prefer.
    Does anyone else feel the same or more this?-
    cr.gif?resize=660%2C276

    > So many men and women out there in the real world put their lives on the line for their country, and pay the price. Why the hell shouldn't Bond?

    Emulating reality isn't the purpose of fiction, quite the opposite actually. Expression, not impression.

    He very well may "die" in the end, but there would a "rebirth" to it. Because that's how these hero/god stories work. Birth, death, rebirth.

    Look, regardless of what the purpose of fiction is, all I'm suggesting is that Bond could die. It's happened (or at least been suggested) in the books.
    Many films set out to be realistic, but always only up to a point, resorting to the usual convention of the hero surviving. Why SHOULD he always survive? He's survived for 24 films for god's sake.
    Even if we don't see him die, a Dark Knight Rises type of ending would suffice.
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    To pull a fake out would be worse!

    I don’t want Bond so to no memory leaving to use he loves. Even if he thinks they’re safer without him.

    What?....
  • QsCatQsCat London
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I loathe the idea of killing off Bond in any way, shape or form. If it's some fake-out scenario, whatever, I'd be fine with it.

    I keep coming back to what Mallory told him in SF, about going on pretending he's dead, that agents don't get that clean break. The whole dead/living/resurrection theme has been an undercurrent during the whole DC era, so it seems fitting that he'd "survive death."

    It seems equally fitting that he would die.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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  • QsCatQsCat London
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    leas_mole wrote: »
    I would be mightily annoyed if they killed off Bond.

    I hope there is a more original ending to DC's tenure

    There won't be, unless he dies. We will probably see him fishing in Jamaica.
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    Contraband wrote: »
    Invite to RAH

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    Excellent!
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