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you are right, sometimes even the biggest fans tend to criticise too much. I'm counting myself to that group. I try not to be too critical about Skyfall, or Craig or DAF but sometimes one can get carried away a little, it's human.
No, I understand not liking a certain actor or film, but disregarding two thirds of the franchise is pretty puzzling.
It's a bit like a parent with their child. If your kid messes up, you don't sit there clapping and nodding in approval; you get out that belt and get to whoopin' that ass......out of love.
I think Craig is (or was) a solid actor, just totally wrong for this role, and helping make it even more wrong with the ways he has pushed things. He was great in ROAD TO PERDITION, but I gotta say, I would have cast pretty much everybody ELSE in that film as Bond before even thinking of Craig. Jude Law, despite the height, and Stanley Tucci I could see as Bond much more easily than this guy. I think Craig is not playing anything like Bond, but playing Edward Woodward's old CALLAN character, filtered through some kind of self-conscious Steve McQueen ego trip. Maybe when he is out from under this he will go back to being a good character actor - a few years out from Bond and Sean was pulling his WIND&LION/MAN WHO WOULD BE KING/ROBIN&MARIAN hat trick, which is a string of artistic successes that for me says actor AND star while not evoking Bond in the slightest.
This is correct of course. If someone doesn't like most of it, he can't say he's a fan of the franchise. Then he just happens to like some of the movies.
Again, I can understand that notion, but totally disregarding the tenure of four actors, which equates to nearly 34 years, and 15 films and not even accepting the actors as James Bond 007, then I can't help but feel a little confused.
I can honestly say that except for liking music, art direction and VFX in SPY and MR, I could easily have the Bond films after OHMSS and before TLD wink out of existence and not feel I was missing a thing. Ditto for everything after LTK (though I admit that there are a few minutes at the opera and in Russia in QUANTUM that somehow feel right to me.)
I"m NOT a fan of any franchise. I happen to love a lot of original STAR TREK, three of the movies, and about half of DEEP SPACE 9. The rest can either exist as background when I'm cooking or not at all, I don't care. But the parts of TREK I do care about I care about passionately and I am extremely knowledgeable about them, because it merits my attention. If you embrace all of it, it seems like you're suspending critical faculties and taking on lemming or sycophant qualities to justify the time you put in, which to me seems confusing or wrongheaded.
as a huge Trekkie I immediately have to know which half of DS9 you happen to love :D
Yeah in that regard that's taking things too far to childish levels. There are things tgat I may not like and some actors who rank low but never would I disregard their contributions and legitimacy.
Just a final musing of mine- I don't watch or judge Bond films like they are just any other film, and I agree with @Birdleson's mantra in this regard. And I'm not saying it's wrong if you don't, but I think we should. The Bond films are so diverse, they constantly go through formative processes. It's hard to believe that Die Another Day and Casino Royale are part of the same series. The Bond films are fascinating- understanding why the films take the direction that they did allows me to appreciate the films even more- because otherwise, we may not be here today discussing them on a daily basis.
53 years. That is impressive.
I have to agree there, @doubleoego
you certainly know what's good I agree with everything.
Well, I screwed that up, I meant SPY WHO LOVED ME, obviously.
2) Craig
3) Dalton
4) Connery
5) Brosnan
6) Lazenby
It's really hard to pick one out of Dalton and Craig...
2 timothy Dalton : Excelled in Action, Physicality, being a Ruthless Killer and was very close Fleming's Bond. Now he can also make a good case for Looks, sex appeal and Charm but fails in sense of Humor.
3 Daniel Craig like Dalton excelled in all the darker areas of James Bond but failed in the lighter ones like sex appeal, charm, Suavness, sophistication and definitley in sense of humor.
4 Roger Moore: Great in sense of Humor and Charm but didnt convince me in any of the other areas.
5 George Lazenby: Definitley he made Bond much more kinder, sensitive and human. He was obviously Charming and was heartbreaking in his final scene but in the action department wasn't very belivable and his Bond, James Bond is the worst.
Note: i did like all of them since each one of them brought something special to the character or at least have something you can appreciate from their respective performances.
Performance ranking.
Connery
Craig
Brosnan
Moore
Dalton
Lazenby (But mainly because only doing one movie - his final scene was excellent)
Favourite ranking
Moore
Connery
Craig
Dalton
Brosnan
Lazenby (again, just as it's one movie - but OHMSS is always ranked near the top of my list)
Ok i loved your Ranking very much and your comments but what i find it a little strange that After Dalton you have Roger Moore.
The most common thing is having the similars together so for me its like how can someone jump from ruthless killer Bond to the lightest ?
I think when Moore got it right, he did well.
That's quite sad.
I loved that ranking but at the end its your preference and many people changes their minds.
Connery
Craig
Moore
Dalton
Brosnan
Lazenby
Performances:
1. Connery (a no-brainer, he's even a great actor)
2. Dalton (in the same league as Patrick Stewart or other actors that have a Theatre background)
3. Brosnan (is convincing no matter if he does comedy, hard-edged action, thriller, drama)
4. Moore (has his unique style that is always the same in every movie)
5. Craig (is always the same no matter what movie he appears)
6. Lazenby (well...)
My favourite Bond actors:
1. Dalton (the only one for me that got Fleming's vision spot on)
2. Brosnan (the perfect mix of his predecessors)
3. Moore (his unique style is brilliant and worked so well for 7 movies)
4. Connery (the legend of course, but personally I think he was great in 4 movies and then went downhill fast)
5. Craig/Lazenby (a tie) OHMSS is too good to have Lazenby last, but after Spectre it will happen and Craig will be No 5 on his own.
All 6 actors have done a marvelous job and if you look at my Top 6 Bond list (which is certain to never change (except if a new one comes along that cracks it) you'll see it contains 6 different Bond actors.
1. Goldeneye
2. The Living Daylights
3. OHMSS
4. Casino Royale
5. Octopussy
6. From Russia With Love
I also grew up witn Pierce and thats part of why he is my favorite along with Sean Connery.
But still good new ranking which i just checked up.
Hooray! Great to see more love for the Roginator.
People sneer at Sir Rog for being camp and silly as Bond, but I seriously think an appreciation for Roger Moore is something you mature into as you get older. If you don't 'get' Sir Rog, then I'd argue you don't 'get' film Bond.
Sit back with a martini and Learn from the master.
When he's good he can be very good. Worldly wise, smart and charming when he has to be - good qualities for Bond. He also did a lot for the series in keeping it going long after Connery had left.
However, in films like MR he fails to convince me he's playing anyone other than himself (or the persona he puts on). I see him kissing that woman in the PTS wearing that dodgy purple thing and looking like he's in his mid 50s and I just think "nah". That's not Bond, that's a middle aged man trying to look cool. Same with him and his leather jacket in AVTAK.
1B.Craig
2. Moore
3. Brosnan
4. Lazenby
5. Dalton