The Saltzman's are back in business.....with 'James Bond'

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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I think we all know who should play Bond in the musical


    I was forced to watch that travesty, I am surprised the TV survived

    %-(

    I've never seen this film, although I've heard about it. I realize it's supposed to appeal to a different type of audience and all, but I found that clip cringeworthy.

    It does suggest that a Bond musical could easily become a mockery if not handled properly.
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    I think we all know who should play Bond in the musical


    Or this man :-P?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I've never seen DN in German. Could be a fun watch, but that fella does not sound like Connery. German Ursula sounds sexy though...
  • edited June 2015 Posts: 11,119
    bondjames wrote: »
    I've never seen DN in German. Could be a fun watch, but that fella does not sound like Connery. German Ursula sounds sexy though...

    I prefer Ursula's real voice, as she showcased in the 1960's spoof "Casino Royale". Lovely, sultry, sensual, smokey voice she has. Actually, I never understood why some girls were re-dubbed by Monica van der Zyl:

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2015 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    I've never seen DN in German. Could be a fun watch, but that fella does not sound like Connery. German Ursula sounds sexy though...

    I prefer Ursula's real voice, as she showcased in the 1960's spoof "Casino Royale". Lovely, sultry, sensual, smokey voice she has. Actually, I never understood why some girls were re-dubbed by Monica van der Zyl:


    Believe it or not, I've yet to see this film. I've got to check it out soon. Yes, that is certainly a smokey voice...
  • edited June 2015 Posts: 11,119
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I've never seen DN in German. Could be a fun watch, but that fella does not sound like Connery. German Ursula sounds sexy though...

    I prefer Ursula's real voice, as she showcased in the 1960's spoof "Casino Royale". Lovely, sultry, sensual, smokey voice she has. Actually, I never understood why some girls were re-dubbed by Monica van der Zyl:


    Believe it or not, I've yet to see this film. I've got to check it out soon. Yes, that is certainly a smokey voice...

    I have it on Blu-Ray now. It's a rather bad (very bad) and messy film, but some scenes are actually surprisingly Bond-esque. And you can trace back some original elements from the novel hehe......but it's hard :-P:

    Here you can see Le Chiffre's girlfriend, played by Jacqueline Bisset......poisoning Evelyn "Bond" Tremble :-P:


    And actually, this clip-like scene, with only music and no lines for the actors, is actually quite good. Two years later Peter Hunt would do something similar with "OHMSS" and "We Have All The Time In The World":
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2015 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I've never seen DN in German. Could be a fun watch, but that fella does not sound like Connery. German Ursula sounds sexy though...

    I prefer Ursula's real voice, as she showcased in the 1960's spoof "Casino Royale". Lovely, sultry, sensual, smokey voice she has. Actually, I never understood why some girls were re-dubbed by Monica van der Zyl:


    Believe it or not, I've yet to see this film. I've got to check it out soon. Yes, that is certainly a smokey voice...

    I have it on Blu-Ray now. It's a rather bad (very bad) and messy film, but some scenes are actually surprisingly Bond-esque. And you can trace back some original elements from the novel hehe......but it's hard :-P:

    Here you can see Le Chiffre's girlfriend, played by Jacqueline Bisset......poisoning Evelyn "Bond" Tremble :-P:

    Bisset is in it? I'm definitely watching it now..

    Looking at that clip, I now realize where Myers got his inspiration for Austin Powers, right down to Hurley's (Vanessa Kensington's) hair.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I think we all know who should play Bond in the musical


    I was forced to watch that travesty, I am surprised the TV survived

    %-(

    I've never seen this film, although I've heard about it. I realize it's supposed to appeal to a different type of audience and all, but I found that clip cringeworthy.

    It does suggest that a Bond musical could easily become a mockery if not handled properly.

    This film is bad, I was at work whilst it was on so could not escape. The only musical in the history of the world that's any good is The Blues Brothers oh and Jeff Wayne's War of the World's has a few good tracks.
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    With a few show girls and a dozen tunes, LALD through AVTAK are stage ready.
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    With a few show girls and a dozen tunes, LALD through AVTAK are stage ready.



    :)) :D That was truly funny :-P.
  • The only musical in the history of the world that's any good is The Blues Brothers oh and Jeff Wayne's War of the World's has a few good tracks.

    I realize that there's no accounting for tastes and I'm well aware that the musical genre has pretty much gone out of style, but really: how many musicals have you ever seen? Not enough to make such an all encompassing statement, I'd daresay. I recommend "West Side Story" if you're of a mind to expand your horizons. But then, I was once a member of The Jets in a high school production of WSS, and "When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way..."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Once more, with feeling.
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    "....from your first cigarette to your last dying day!"

    Surely a sentiment Bond could agree with...
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    It seems to me that I remember a Mad Magazine version of a Bond musical being published back in the '60s, with Mort Drucker artwork depicting the visage of Sean Connery... "Bentley with the Blond in Front" sung to the tune of "Surrey with the Fringe on Top," etc. I can't really imagine a "serious" Bond musical, it would have to be camp to one degree or another. Interesting news, though...

    April 1965 issue of Mad. The writer was Frank Jacobs. 007 (referred to as James Bomb) goes after ICECUBE, which is towing the U.K. to the North Pole. The head of ICECUBE is revealed to be Mike Hammer, who's annoyed at 007 for stealing away all his book sales.

    That sounds brilliant. I wish I had a copy of that! :))
  • Follow the link in the OP & you'll find a copy of the story. You can at least read it, if not own it outright. And it was indeed pretty brilliant. Mort Drucker's outstanding actor caricatures were always a highlight of every issue of MAD to me!
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Follow the link in the OP & you'll find a copy of the story. You can at least read it, if not own it outright. And it was indeed pretty brilliant. Mort Drucker's outstanding actor caricatures were always a highlight of every issue of MAD to me!

    Thanks for pointing that out to me, @BeatlesSansEarmuffs! I really appreciate that. It's truly amazing what stuff you can readily find online these days! :)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thanks, friend. :)
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    The only musical in the history of the world that's any good is The Blues Brothers oh and Jeff Wayne's War of the World's has a few good tracks.

    I realize that there's no accounting for tastes and I'm well aware that the musical genre has pretty much gone out of style, but really: how many musicals have you ever seen? Not enough to make such an all encompassing statement, I'd daresay. I recommend "West Side Story" if you're of a mind to expand your horizons. But then, I was once a member of The Jets in a high school production of WSS, and "When you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way..."

    I was disappointed with the film version of Les Miserables because the sheer spectacle of the film detracted from the very thing that made it so amazing on stage - the music.

    I agree about West Side Story - you have cloth ears if you don't appreciate this film.
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    NicNac wrote:
    .....disappointed with the film version of Les Miserables..... agree about West Side Story-

    With few exceptions, musicals don't transition well from the stage to film. The simplicity of the staging of Les Miz and the brilliance of the music made a film version a tough act to follow. I looked forward to it anyway, but the casting of Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe were mistakes. Despite their usual film successes, neither was suited for this film.
    Too often film musicals hang their hats on big name stars who just don't deliver.
    Evita without Madonna would have worked better. Superstar squandered its potential by trying to be too clever.

    WSS is that rare exception where both stage and film versions worked, but today both feel dated. I've often thought an updated version of the musical reflecting today's urban gangs with the music interpreted in a contemporary style might be an interesting take.

    While I don't like the trend of adapting films as stage musicals, I think Across the Universe would actually work. Billy Elliot works quite well.

    As for the bad idea of a Bond musical, the obvious question to be asked, aside from
    the novelty factor, what does a Bond musical bring to the stage? Will actual film music be used, or will it feature original music written for the stage? Austin Powers seems
    a much better fit, perhaps even Johnny English. Will it be a dramatic musical,
    or a musical comedy?

    A much better story would be a musical comedy based upon the idea of replacing an old seasoned Bond actor with a new and younger actor. That has possibilities, not unlike Applause, the musical version of All About Eve.






  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    @CrabKey - spot on with everything you say.

    You have identified the issues with a Bond musical, and the idea of Austin Powers being adapted is a much sounder idea.
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    I looked forward to it anyway, but the casting of Hugh Jackman and Russell Crowe were mistakes. Despite their usual film successes, neither was suited for this film.

    For Crowe, I do agree. But not about Jackman : after all, he had already established himself as a legitimate musical theater actor before getting those prosthetic claws (I saw him in London playing the part of Curly in Oklahoma! way back in 1999).

    Now, my two centimes : I love musicals, but I do agree with the majority here in saying that doing a James Bond stage (or screen) musical is a bad idea. An arena show (like the "Walking with Dinosaurs", or "Batman" or "Doctor Who" ones), perhaps, but not a musical. Bond, for me, doesn't "sing" (except for that time in DN, and it wasn't repeated). "The Godfather", now, that would be a good idea for a musical. But Bond ? No.

    Note that I could be wrong. After all, I did have similar thoughts about "Tarzan" as a Disney cartoon, and it turned out all right. So... But until I see the finished product, I will stand by my opinion.
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    James Bond Facebook announces Danjaq & MGM have not licensed any rights for James Bond the Musical:

    https://www.facebook.com/JamesBond007?fref=nf



  • TokolosheTokoloshe Under your bed
    edited July 2015 Posts: 2,667
    James Bond Facebook announces Danjaq & MGM have not licensed any rights for James Bond the Musical:

    https://www.facebook.com/JamesBond007?fref=nf




    It's very curious that they feel the need to issue this rebuttal.

    Does it really mean that Saltzman's daughter actually thought she had some rights to Bond, decades after he sold them? I find that very difficult to believe and had presumed until now that this was a completely made up tabloid story.

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    The original wasn't a made up story, in the sense that it was invented out of whole cloth. It originated with two theater websites (one of which was Playbill).

    It appears an announcement was made. Those two sites went with it. Everybody else (including the tabloids) did summaries based on those stories. There's no indicate the two originating sites ever called/contacted Danjaq/Eon.
  • In the case of the Playbill story, Merry Saltzman gave an interview to them.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    Still say that this will not happen.
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