BOND POLLS 2015: Best Bond-films "GoldenEye" until "Skyfall" •••FINAL RESULTS•••

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  • Posts: 1,146
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP, in the 90's as opposed to the 40 percentile of OP, so laugh away, yet I needed not insult you to make my point.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP, in the 90's as opposed to the 40 percentile of OP, so laugh away, yet I needed not insult you to make my point.

    Again, you insist on using Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for your argument. It has been said, time and time again, it is rather pointless to use such a website on a forum like this: we are hardcore Bond fans, our opinions and sentiments are a hundredfold more important than ANY review or the likes. Honestly, I question your place on this forum if RT and IMBD and yadda yadda are the only things you resort to.

    "insult"? Well, one receives what one gives...
  • Posts: 1,146
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP, in the 90's as opposed to the 40 percentile of OP, so laugh away, yet I needed not insult you to make my point.

    Again, you insist on using Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for your argument. It has been said, time and time again, it is rather pointless to use such a website on a forum like this: we are hardcore Bond fans, our opinions and sentiments are a hundredfold more important than ANY review or the likes. Honestly, I question your place on this forum if RT and IMBD and yadda yadda are the only things you resort to.

    "insult"? Well, one receives what one gives...

    Kinda silly for you to question anyone's place on this forum. We all write in and discuss stuff. You presume that only Bond fans can OBJECTIVELY gage Bond films, and film critics are not capable of..doing their jobs?

    You may not like my opinions, but I back them up with specific details when I do so.
  • edited November 2014 Posts: 11,425
    M_Balje wrote: »
    That not happend much that somebody dislike the pretitles of Goldeneye. But what you don't like about it. Atleast i am very clear/fair about CR that i think it is to violence.

    Uhm, I said I was astonished by it. That means that I was impressed by them. I loved them. Know your English vocabulary ;-)

    Apology due to @M_Balje I think, Mr Graves! You did indeed write that you "really disliked" it.

    I agree.

    I thought the PTS was cringeworthy myself. Appallingly wooden acting. Amongst the worst PTS in the series. Real stunts replaced by god awful SFX.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited November 2014 Posts: 5,080
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP, in the 90's as opposed to the 40 percentile of OP, so laugh away, yet I needed not insult you to make my point.

    Again, you insist on using Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for your argument. It has been said, time and time again, it is rather pointless to use such a website on a forum like this: we are hardcore Bond fans, our opinions and sentiments are a hundredfold more important than ANY review or the likes. Honestly, I question your place on this forum if RT and IMBD and yadda yadda are the only things you resort to.

    "insult"? Well, one receives what one gives...

    Kinda silly for you to question anyone's place on this forum. We all write in and discuss stuff. You presume that only Bond fans can OBJECTIVELY gage Bond films, and film critics are not capable of..doing their jobs?

    You may not like my opinions, but I back them up with specific details when I do so.

    No, it's perfectly reasonable to question your place on this forum. The vast majority of your posts is consistent, spam-like Moore bashing, with the occasional "LOL!" Thrown in for good measure. Mighty fine contributions to this forum, if I may say so.

    And, no, you're putting words in my mouth (again). Film ratings are what they are, the opinion of somebody, and nothing more. Why do you use them as a basis of FACT?

    And what are these "specific details" you speak of? You post half-arsed, meandering comments that give no insight or detail whatsoever. Oh, but I suppose posting the tomatometer of Bond films tells us all we need to know...
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited November 2014 Posts: 17,788
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP
    "Its action may be bit too over-the-top for some, but Die Another Day is lavishly crafted and succeeds in evoking classic Bond themes from the franchise's earlier installments. 57%"
    -Rotted Tomatoes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    :))
  • Posts: 11,425
    People still quoting those damn ranking websites to justify their lame 'opinions'? Pathetic. Anyone who refers to those sites to support their views should be flagged - three strikes and you're out!
  • Getafix wrote: »
    People still quoting those damn ranking websites to justify their lame 'opinions'? Pathetic. Anyone who refers to those sites to support their views should be flagged - three strikes and you're out!

    Well, if you put it like that.....that....black-and-white, then I agree with you. But I don't put it like that. I use the rating sites merely as a democratic means that should be interpreted in a particular way. You have a "reviewer rating" on RT and a "people's rating". The first is for newspapers and other media, the latter can be voted for freely online.

    But to say that a 5.7 is a totally unjust rating for DAD on RT, then those people need to check their sense of democracy. Also on this forum DAD is voted badly. And the Bond fans ratings in here are then also ridiculous? Anyone who LOVES DAD can do so. I respect that. But no matter how you interpret it.....you will be one of not so many who thinks DAD is a good Bond film.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
  • First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall

    Which of these 7 Bond films is actually the most "female friendly" one ;-)? I'm quite curious, because I have a feeling that Bond films with more emotional drama, deeper developed characters usually are slightly liked more by females. But I can be wrong off course.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall

    Which of these 7 Bond films is actually the most "female friendly" one ;-)? I'm quite curious, because I have a feeling that Bond films with more emotional drama, deeper developed characters usually are slightly liked more by females. But I can be wrong off course.
    I think the one that is mostly loved by the females should be Casino Royale. In my honest opinion, because there is a real love story going on there. A Whisper of love, a whisper of hate, as it was tainted on Fleming's original cover the film was adapted from. Am I right? :)
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    I think the one that is mostly loved by the females should be Casino Royale. In my honest opinion, because there is a real love story going on there.

    A bit presumptuous to assume women are always drawn to love stories. I reckon there are as many women as men who just love a straight out Bond flick, with the thrills, spills, and love 'em and leave 'em mentality. Just as there are probably as many men as women who are genuinely connected to the films that feature a more central theme of love.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    RC7 wrote: »
    I think the one that is mostly loved by the females should be Casino Royale. In my honest opinion, because there is a real love story going on there.

    A bit presumptuous to assume women are always drawn to love stories. I reckon there are as many women as men who just love a straight out Bond flick, with the thrills, spills, and love 'em and leave 'em mentality. Just as there are probably as many men as women who are genuinely connected to the films that feature a more central theme of love.

    Of course. Opinions vary, what can I say? Just thought CR would be the one picked up by most of the females, or at least the ones that I met. Doesn't mean I don't have lady friends who don't appreciate a straight out Bond flick, as you mentioned.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Ranking sites are indicative of audience reaction and opinion. They are useful in that way. They can't dictate your opinion nor can this forum. But most audiences can tell when a film sucks. I always note the critics' score vs the audience score.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,788
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    Half the time I can't understand what you're saying but I love your accent.
    ;)
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    chrisisall wrote: »
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    Half the time I can't understand what you're saying but I love your accent.
    ;)
    Compliments are certainly appreciated, old boy. ;)
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,788
    Compliments are certainly appreciated, old boy. ;)
    I'm guessing here that you, like I, think Jason could have made a fine Bond...
    :-?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Compliments are certainly appreciated, old boy. ;)
    I'm guessing here that you, like I, think Jason could have made a fine Bond...
    :-?
    Indeed, such a missed opportunity for his own. Whenever I read a Fleming novel, I imagine Jason Isaacs in the role. But, that's just me.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,788
    Getafix wrote: »
    I was really hoping SF would be that third time lucky absolute blinder and I know many people think it is
    When Silva got the point he should have asked, "For England, James?"
    [-(
  • Posts: 11,425
    chrisisall wrote: »
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    Half the time I can't understand what you're saying but I love your accent.
    ;)

    Don't let @TheWizardofIce see that list! He'll have a fit.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Getafix wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    Half the time I can't understand what you're saying but I love your accent.
    ;)

    Don't let @TheWizardofIce see that list! He'll have a fit.

    Any kind of discussion is most welcome as long as it doesn't turn into mockery.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    Posts: 4,012
    RC7 wrote: »
    I think the one that is mostly loved by the females should be Casino Royale. In my honest opinion, because there is a real love story going on there.

    A bit presumptuous to assume women are always drawn to love stories. I reckon there are as many women as men who just love a straight out Bond flick, with the thrills, spills, and love 'em and leave 'em mentality. Just as there are probably as many men as women who are genuinely connected to the films that feature a more central theme of love.

    You are absolutely right @RC7! Love story is not what I expect from a Bond film, unless it's CR or OHMSS and even then it's a special kind of love story.
    Anyway, here is my ranking:
    1 - SF - a great film and a great Bond. Incredible photography, amazing acting, memorable villain, incredible title song.
    2 - QoS - I have defended it many times. If only some problems could be solved it would be a near perfect Bond film.
    3 - TND - the film that rises higher every time I watch it. I quite like the story, Michelle Yeoh rocks, Dr Kaufmann is a truly memorable minor character, Surrender is an amazing song.
    4 - CR - it might come as a surprise that I don't rate it very high, it's only because of some things that really bother me. Still, the cast does an incredible acting job, great soundtrack+title song+title sequence.
    5 - GE - the first Bond I watched on the big screen, I have fond and vivid memories of that day. Nowadays, however, I see that it has a fair bit of problems (Trevelyan a Lienz cossack, really? Do the math). Still, amazing Bond girls, nice title song, an incredible set of villains and a film great enough to revive the franchise.
    6 - TWINE - used to be one of my favourites back in the day but it quickly started sinking. It's a cheese fest! Sophie Marceau is great, however.
    7 - DAD :-& the only good thing about it is that it ultimately caused the Bond franchise to get out of its stagnation. Other than that it makes me physically sick.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Getafix wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    Half the time I can't understand what you're saying but I love your accent.
    ;)

    Don't let @TheWizardofIce see that list! He'll have a fit.

    Any kind of discussion is most welcome as long as it doesn't turn into mockery.

    I agree. You are entitled to your opinion so therefore this is a very good list.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Getafix wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    First subjective post of mine, that I'll be making, but before I start ranking them up, I repeat it is only my own perspective on the list, and it's certainly not to be applied on the matter of classifying it as superior to the others or better than anyone else's.

    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    Half the time I can't understand what you're saying but I love your accent.
    ;)

    Don't let @TheWizardofIce see that list! He'll have a fit.

    Any kind of discussion is most welcome as long as it doesn't turn into mockery.

    I agree. You are entitled to your opinion so therefore this is a very good list.
    Thank you, sir! :)
  • Posts: 1,146
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP, in the 90's as opposed to the 40 percentile of OP, so laugh away, yet I needed not insult you to make my point.

    Again, you insist on using Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for your argument. It has been said, time and time again, it is rather pointless to use such a website on a forum like this: we are hardcore Bond fans, our opinions and sentiments are a hundredfold more important than ANY review or the likes. Honestly, I question your place on this forum if RT and IMBD and yadda yadda are the only things you resort to.

    "insult"? Well, one receives what one gives...

    Kinda silly for you to question anyone's place on this forum. We all write in and discuss stuff. You presume that only Bond fans can OBJECTIVELY gage Bond films, and film critics are not capable of..doing their jobs?

    You may not like my opinions, but I back them up with specific details when I do so.

    No, it's perfectly reasonable to question your place on this forum. The vast majority of your posts is consistent, spam-like Moore bashing, with the occasional "LOL!" Thrown in for good measure. Mighty fine contributions to this forum, if I may say so.

    And, no, you're putting words in my mouth (again). Film ratings are what they are, the opinion of somebody, and nothing more. Why do you use them as a basis of FACT?

    And what are these "specific details" you speak of? You post half-arsed, meandering comments that give no insight or detail whatsoever. Oh, but I suppose posting the tomatometer of Bond films tells us all we need to know...


    yeah, go back through my posts, they're much clearer and more in detail than you're representing. You simply don't like my opinions, and again, while I may disagree with yours, I don't need to insult you to continue expressing mine.

  • Posts: 1,146
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP
    "Its action may be bit too over-the-top for some, but Die Another Day is lavishly crafted and succeeds in evoking classic Bond themes from the franchise's earlier installments. 57%"
    -Rotted Tomatoes HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    :))

    I agree this is silly, but for the most part, the critic ratings are consistent. Casablanca is still Casablanca, and COndorman is Condorman.
  • Posts: 1,146
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Ranking sites are indicative of audience reaction and opinion. They are useful in that way. They can't dictate your opinion nor can this forum. But most audiences can tell when a film sucks. I always note the critics' score vs the audience score.

    Great point.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,788
    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    For the record, 1, 2 & 7 are the same as my list.
    And I see you have a good suit.
    :D
  • chrisisall wrote: »
    1-Tomorrow Never Dies
    2-GoldenEye
    3-Quantum of Solace
    4-Die Another Day
    5-Casino Royale
    6-The World Is Not Enough
    7-Skyfall
    For the record, 1, 2 & 7 are the same as my list.
    And I see you have a good suit.
    :D

    It's c-risis-all with you @chrisisall :P
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Both CR and SF are rated much much higher than OP, in the 90's as opposed to the 40 percentile of OP, so laugh away, yet I needed not insult you to make my point.

    Again, you insist on using Rotten Tomatoes as a basis for your argument. It has been said, time and time again, it is rather pointless to use such a website on a forum like this: we are hardcore Bond fans, our opinions and sentiments are a hundredfold more important than ANY review or the likes. Honestly, I question your place on this forum if RT and IMBD and yadda yadda are the only things you resort to.

    "insult"? Well, one receives what one gives...

    Kinda silly for you to question anyone's place on this forum. We all write in and discuss stuff. You presume that only Bond fans can OBJECTIVELY gage Bond films, and film critics are not capable of..doing their jobs?

    You may not like my opinions, but I back them up with specific details when I do so.

    No, it's perfectly reasonable to question your place on this forum. The vast majority of your posts is consistent, spam-like Moore bashing, with the occasional "LOL!" Thrown in for good measure. Mighty fine contributions to this forum, if I may say so.

    And, no, you're putting words in my mouth (again). Film ratings are what they are, the opinion of somebody, and nothing more. Why do you use them as a basis of FACT?

    And what are these "specific details" you speak of? You post half-arsed, meandering comments that give no insight or detail whatsoever. Oh, but I suppose posting the tomatometer of Bond films tells us all we need to know...


    yeah, go back through my posts, they're much clearer and more in detail than you're representing. You simply don't like my opinions, and again, while I may disagree with yours, I don't need to insult you to continue expressing mine.

    =))

    If you think that, then that is just an insult to long-standing, respectable members of this community who post contributions that are insightful, essay-like and support their reasoning with valid, coherent evidence.

    Your comments consistently, and purposefully, insight vitriol on Roger Moore in threads where the actor is not even concerned. They are deliberately provocative- you have stated your opinion many times, but it becomes spam when you do so in said threads.

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