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  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    It concerns a person in front of the camera and it involves geography? I may be committed in the next cell to @peter I am really struggling for this one.

    NTTD is the only one to feature a female 007. LOL

    Sorry I am out of this one I think.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @thedove : it’s about a person in front of the camera, exclusive to these films, and dating back to DN, although debatable in TLD...

    I’m assuming then that this is not an actual live person, but a painting? Sculpture? That may be located in a different spot in one of the films?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    No, that is not the case.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited October 2019 Posts: 8,548
    So a person in front of the camera starting with DN, then OHMSS, LALD, AVTAK, ambiguously in TLD, LTK and NTTD... exclusive to these films, although one is still odd one out... think geography...

    Could it be something to do with these are the only films where M addresses James Bond by his 007, but in NTTD Nomi will be 007?

    EDIT: M uses 007 outside of these film..., ugh

  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    edited October 2019 Posts: 4,398
    I tried already something with 007 and Thunderfinger answered that it has nothing to do with 007. I also tried it with a Jamaica connection...was wrong, too. Maybe something with afroamerican actors...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    I tried already something with 007 and Thunderfinger answered that it has nothing to do with 007. I also tried it with a Jamaica connection...was wrong, too. Maybe something with afroamerican actors...

    I was thinking it had something to do with water and danger: going to Crab Key, fight on the beach with Draco’s men, skimming across the water in AVTAK; landing on the boat in TLD; escaping Sanchez’s compound on the side of the boat, etc etc... but that stupidly disqualified FRWL, TB, YOLT, TSWLM, FYEO etc etc...

    This is certainly a game where I will pass the shoe!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I'm sure it's something right under our noses... Is it something to do with title-credits?...

    But a person in front of the camera in 62, 69, 73, 85, 87, 89, 19-- think geography... Is it someone who did a voice work in these films, but played different characters, @Thunderfinger ?

    This is my new obsession...

  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I was thinking Leiter but he doesn't appear in a few of these and of course isn't exclusive to these movies. M is different in each one except noticeably there are none of the Dench films on the list and no Brosnan films either.

    DN Jamaica and little bit in London
    OHMSS Portugal, Switzerland, London
    LALD New York City, New Orleans, San Monique (which is really Jamaica)
    AVTAK France, London, San Fran
    TLD London, Spain, Czech, Afghanistan, Tangier,
    LTK Florida Keys, Isthus City (which is really Mexico)
    NTTD Norway, Italy, Jamaica, London, ?

    I don't see anything that ties in the cities, maybe it's a location. All have some water element. But then that's not exclusive to these films. Some have snow but again not exclusive to these films only.

    Could it be where the mission briefings take place? Or the fact that M travels in these films?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @thedove, M travels in TMWGG and other films...

    Thunderfinger's done something quite significant here
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Yes and he claimed a few pages ago that it was an easy answer. It must be something so obvious that the answer is right in front of us.

    Do they all have a doctor? But I only remember Koskov playing to be a doctor and no actual doctor in it. But then what does that have to do with geography. But then I believe Kaufman in TND was referenced as a Doctor.

    Damn my brain hurts.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    LTK, Bond isn't in London or England.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    All of today s guesses have been going in the wrong direction.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Hive-minds:

    A person in front of the camera in 62, 69, 73, 85, 87, 89, 19-- and think geography.

    This person was only in front of the camera for these films, and I'm guessing s/he shows up in one place unusual for him/her (making it the odd one out through location).

    So if this hunch is even remotely correct, this person in front of the camera, usually will be found in the same place... so it should only be a small scene in these films...

    @Thunderfinger ... am I warm?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Went through the DN cast list to see if any names would ring bells... There are stuntmen who played a variety of characters, on and off, from DN to AVTAK. This couldn't be them.

    This person @Thunderfinger ... he can't be a character in these films, can he? Especially since most who were on DN are no longer around to be in NTTD...

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I thought it might have to do with locations pairing a new Bond coming and an old one leaving. But couldn't quite work it out with the choices given.

    Thanks for joining @Birdleson ... seems our sick friend @Thunderfinger is more sadistic than we imagined... he’s a brilliant mind, but evil all the same...
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I think you might be on to something @peter as I can't think of a character that appears just exclusively in these films. M, Moneypenny, Q are all out cause they appear in other films too. Is it Bond himself? That would give @Birdleson theory some weight. However you will notice he doesn't have Connery's exit film or any of Brosnan's films. So does them mean that the introduction of Bond has some connection? Then how to jibe in the exit film?

    DN Bond is in a casino when we meet him, a boat when we last see him
    OHMSS Bond is in a car then a beach, a car when we last see him
    LALD Bond is at his flat when we first see him. On a train when we last see him
    AVTAK Bond is on skis when we meet him and in a shower at the end.
    TLD Bond is in an airplane, at the end he is in a dressing room
    LTK Bond is in a limo and then helicopter, at the end he is in a swimming pool
    NTTD Bond is ?????

    Maybe it's not to do with where we first meet him since we don't know about NTTD.

    Sorry chaps I am just thinking aloud with these posts.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Keeping thinking out loud, lol! It's the only way. Spit-ball all and every idea that connect these films exclusively.

    Going back to the film we know little about, NTTD:
    Bond leaves the Service; he quits in OHMSS and LTK.
    In NTTD we know he's in Jamaica (DN, LALD).
    There is a new 007 (something new to this series)
    Swann returns (something that happened with Trench, but in FRWL)
    DB5/Volante.
    What else do we know about it that connects to the other films mentioned?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    We know there is a scientist in NTTD. Leiter appears as does M, Moneypenny and Q. Blofeld is rumoured to be back.

    DN, LALD, TLD, LTK, NTTD all feature Leiter, but some Leiter movies are off the list, plus OHMSS and AVTAK are listed and Leiter doesn't appear. I think we can safely assume it doesn't involve Leiter.

    All feature M and Moneypenny. Could it be where the characters interact with Bond? Plus @Thunderfinger has said it's questionable if TLD should be on the list but he thinks it should.

    We know that Bond drives the DB5 in NTTD but he doesn't drive this car in any of the films listed.

    We know that filming has taken place in Jamaica, Italy and Norway. But they all don't have a common location in terms of country or city. So I think it's more likely to be a place then a city or country.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Could it be where the characters interact with Bond?

    DN: at HQ
    OHMSS: at HQ

    but already this dismisses this theory, since that is not exclusive to the films mentioned...

    ugh... I have a concussion from the twists my brain is making...

    but what about Bond and cars and geography:

    DN: the Alpine in Jamaica (Jamaica connects with LALD and NTTD)
    OHMSS: the Aston DBS/ Tracy's Mercury Cougar (south of France? am I mixing up the novel with the film; if it is France, that connects with AVTAK and a semi-car chase as well; plus Tracy saves Bond in a very snowy Switzerland that could be a connection to Norway (if Norway is Norway in NTTD));
    LALD: Jamaica; bus chase, paragliding... Paragliding connects to parachuting in TLD (grasping.at.straws)...
    AVTAK: the aforementioned car chase in Paris and how a (i believe) Bentley saves Bond from drowning...
    TLD: An Audi in Czechoslovakia; Volante with gadgets in snowy location
    LTK: cheapest cars of the series... save for the Bentley...
    NTTD: DB5, Volante...

    I see no connection other than I am sad with every offering I bring to the table....:(

  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    It's someone in front of the camera and it concerns a location. We need to think of the character or the person in front of the camera...maybe it isn't a character after all. Plus it is exclusive to these films with TLD being questionably on the list.

    There are car chases in every film but that's not exclusive to these films. Wait a second...in all the films Bond takes a certain mode of transport? But then it's not exclusive to this plus we know scant little about NTTD.

    Boats feature in most of these films...but then MR would be on the list as it's a boat chase along with QOS and FRWL.

    Bond disobeys orders in the films?

    DN he is seen carrying a Berreta after M told him not to
    OHMSS he gets Draco to help him storm Piz Gloria
    LALD ????
    AVTAK ????
    TLD he tells Saunders to stuff his orders
    LTK he goes rogue
    NTTD he's resigned from the force.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I never said it concerns a location.
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
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    Well, I have been following this with interest, but not been contributing because I’m afraid my little bird brain can’t come up with anything remotely likely - I really need a Beginners Odd One Out thread just for me!

    However, I thought I would add to the ‘think tank’ by collecting together everything Thunderfinger has fed back, along with a few thoughts
    1. Whatever it is they have in common, it applies to only these films, although some might argue TLD shouldn’t be in the list
    2. It concerns people who are seen on-screen
    3. Nothing to do with 007, titles, plot, Bond women or actresses or M.
    4. Watching the films isn’t enough - you need background info - so possibly something to do with the actors rather than their roles?
    5. It’s to do with ONE person (actor?) in each film
    6. Think geography - but it’s not to do with locations? I assume the ambiguity here might mean it’s nothing to do with locations in the film, but geography associated with the person may be of relevance - place of birth etc???

    I don’t have a clue personally but I think it might be worth looking more into the background/similarities/differences in the actors rather than trying to find a link within the actual film itself. And given clue 3 maybe focus on male actors.

    NTTD on the list means we know very little about what will definitely be up on the screen, so again that suggests something more in the background of the actors.

    Good luck everyone, because I doubt I’m going to be of any more use to you!

    And I hope I’ve not sent you all off on the wrong track!
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited October 2019 Posts: 19,339
    A non English character close to Bond is killed ?

    DN : Quarrel
    OHMSS : Tracy
    LALD : Strutter
    AVTAK : Chuck Lee
    TLD : Pushkin (fake death )
    LTK : Sharkey
    NTTD : ??????? Swann ?!

    Frustrating, I know its wrong but it might lead to something else.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Thanks @Max_The_Parrot I think your thoughts go in the right direction. We should check the nationality of the actors.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    goldenswissroyale wrote: »
    Thanks @Max_The_Parrot I think your thoughts go in the right direction. We should check the nationality of the actors.

    Yes, the bird brain is small, but in working order.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Every film has a Welshman in it ?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Hardly exclusive.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    In that case i'm out...good luck gents.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Let s repeat the films on the new page:

    DN, OHMSS, LALD, AVTAK, TLD, LTK, NTTD
    They all have something exclusively in common, yet one is different from the rest.

    I can add that NSNA would not have made it onto this list.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    edited October 2019 Posts: 4,398
    All main villains are from North America. Wiseman is from Canada, the rest from the USA. DN out. TLD only fits with Baker but not with Krabbe.
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