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Does any actor today? None of the young ones have universal or even wide appeal in their age groups and its slowly killing the industry.
Every second generation immigrant in europe/america would have watched it in cinemas, in addition to the entire African continent, and most of the Middle East. Anyone who ever has liked black or Urban culture. Unlike the smallest sliver of racist fans, most white ones would have watched and enjoyed it.
Bond is already a global brand but he would have suddenly been more relevant than the Kardashians and the Fast and Furious franchise combined.
Idris Elba as Bond would have arguably sold more tickets than Avatar and Spiderman.
The whole woke/anti-woke spectacle would have been free advertising and since he is such a good actor it wouldnt have hurt the brand, the film or the cause for equal representation.
I find it genuinely surprising that neither him nor Jack O'Connell are mentioned for the role in the press. Usually you see various names on these '50 actors who could be the next Bond' type lists. Most of them are obvious and implausible - the Henry Cavill or Idris Elbas - but you do get names like Jack Lowden, and even as of late Sope Dirisu, thrown in there. Hughes I don't think I've ever seen. I suppose he's not all that well known in the grand scheme of things.
I thought he was very good in The Game. It's not a show I liked - a sort of cheaper, second rate Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy - but I thought he carried it and the way he played his character felt very Bondian. I think he's a very effective character actor but one who hasn't fully hit his stride. Still, whatever I've watched him in (even in something like Cemetery Junction) I've seen little flickers of potential in there, something that might make a great Bond. Again, it'd be different from Craig's Bond (less brutish, more flawed perhaps) and I don't think could be approached in quite the same way, but it might be interesting and could work with the right Bond film.
But have you actually seen him in anything? Apart from this rather infuriatingly edited video that is.
I'm no fan of Turner of Cavill, but I'd say at the moment their fanbase is wider than Elba, particularly Cavill. I think Elba is by far the best actor, but he's too old for Bond now. Ten years ago I think the debate about him succeeding Craig made little sense, given his age. Now it's downright absurd.
I'd say there are plenty of actors who we haven't thought of, who could be scoped by EON.
And it comes at no surprise cause we've been hearing the same names from the press for over ten years. I think for them a story about who the next James Bond is just piss easy journalism that requires hardly any effort than looking at every other list. Idris Elba, Henry Cavill, Tom Hiddleston, Tom Hardy, Michael Fassbender, Richard Madden, and even James Norton to a certain extent. It just felt reductive which unfortunately, I think, did none of those actors any favours as well as the obvious aging out that some of them have done.
And I would like to just say that while I know some here may think ATJ's meeting being in the press is a sign he won't get the role like Rory Kinnear mentioned in response to the news coming out, but his meeting is based on a fact as opposed to what every other name in the press has been up until that point. For sure, he could not get it 100% but I don't think the attention he's received for being the first name out hurts his chances.
I also think we have to consider where we are in terms of film and television journalism in that it's much easier for us to find out about these castings and these meetings. It's very rare we get a surprise casting announcement, especially when it comes to franchise films.
It's also worth saying ATJ is a bit more high profile as an actor compared to other names. Not saying he's a well known A-Lister, but he's been in some pretty big films and would get more attention when it came out he had this meeting.
Good post. You have a point. Fassbender would have been superb indeed, one just knows it. Again, I'd given my left nut for Fassie in stead of Craig.
I think the most serious contenders are either not mentioned in the press or barely mentioned. When did Daniel Craig started appearing on the media radar in 2005?
More likely publicists for various actors.
To me, the ATJ proximity over the years makes me think they COULD float the idea before any parties have to commit, maybe they learned from CraigsNotBond etc. I'm not even saying this is Eon, but some other meddling party. Whereas the Bridgerton man certainly has an excited publicist. I agree that this time will certainly play out differently to Craig's introduction. Eon has been making more and more of a production out of the BTS so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a grander rollout this time around. Especially if someone like Nolan is helming. I bet the actor rumors heat up then go mysteriously quiet, then a big mag like Empire breaks the story with official input from Eon and full spread on the production team. REINVENTING BOND. That'd be cool.
Casting Elba would definitely have stirred a hornets nest, that's for sure. Publicity would have gone through the roof too.
But it would have divided the fanbase like no other (forget the craignotbond debacle). Fleming purists like me would never be happy with the decision, because he doesn't tally up to the literary description of Bond, and for me that's where any silly racism slur begins and ends. He doesn't match the Fleming description, and for me that is the most important factor I look for in who is chosen as Bond, before we get into charisma, charm, voice, acting ability, etc. which are also just as important.
Having said all that, I'm a huge Elba fan, and he does remind me of a black Sean Connery. Tough, oozes charisma, badass. But I would rather have seen him in a different kind of action franchise rather than be chosen for one which would cause too much controversy among the fanbase.
I'm really looking forward to the new Luther movie coming out, which in a way is its own kind of Bond franchise.
ATJ's voice is just too high pitched, doesn't sound confident at all.
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That's the concern of many people here. But maybe it's like hair for Connery: it can be arranged. David Suchet has a much lower voice than Poirot, but you wouldn't know hearing him in character.
I don't think you need to apologize @Venutius
There are many actors suggested for the role that we don't agree on.
The question on everyone’s lips of course is how tall are you?
And do you have a high pitched voice ala ATJ?
That explains my claireaudience! We'll find out in a full body shot.
I can mimic a high-pitched voice. I haven't settled on my Bond voice yet but it's good so far.
I’m sure EON will be the judge of that, in due course.
One wonders what the full body shot will reveal height wise.
If you’re taller than 5’10” you could be in.
We're in luck... 5'11.5/182cm. Hitting the goldenheight with footwear.