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I cannot find any further source for this comment, but here it is claimed that the roundel (that's a new word for me!) was created specifically for Skyfall:
"Interestingly, the helicopter used by the "bad guys" in "Skyfall" wears a fictional roundel on the typical RAF color scheme."
Also, IMPDB says this:
"Wearing a private livery, and operated by Silva's organization. Aircraft was provided by AgustaWestland, serial G-17-510."
@Gustav_Graves was rarely wrong.
Which makes the whole foster brother angle all the more unnecessary, as the film barely plays with that aspect anyway.
EDIT: At least Silva wasn't explicitly funded by "Quantum", that stupid stupid name that should have never been a thing ever.
Dench's M is more than hinted at as looking into Quantum with her tracing Sciarra to Mexico city. You could have had Sciarra there to take out Mr White who was on the run rather than blowing up half of the city with that daft CGI explosion.
Bond would inadvertently foil Sciarra's hit on White, White would be seen in silhouette and he would see Bond realising he'd just saved his life. Then the PTS could go toward the helicopter sequence.
Bond would obviously have to go rogue but with no relation to anything that was found at Skyfall and it would just be M's message that sent him, his loyalty to his late boss.
Bond could then start to peel back the layers leading to what could have been centre piece of the film Bond finding White, White would wind up Bond with revealing he actually saved his life in a more extended sequence where White with nothing to loose would give Bond clues to the whole scheme of 9 eyes, Bond agreeing to protect his daugher and offering him an honourable route out would be his motivation. Bond would be seen to investigating.
White most certainly wouldn't feel that the organisation had lost it's way or was doing things he was ashamed of, White should remain as cold, all that women and children business felt like a total betrayal the character we got introduced to in CR. It would be down to White exposing Quantum and Blofeld feeling he needed to get rid of him depsite the fact they were friends that formed Quantum. Blofeld would then dissolve Quantum secretly and have SPECTRE in the shadows unbeknown to White, although when he discovers the truth he tries to take out his old friend but ESB has infiltrated all elements and secretly changed them to SP leaving White with no one to turn to and seriously undermined.
The brother relationship could still be explored but with White and ESB and how that relationship soured, Bond actually being the catalyst here as he discovered Quantum by capturing White in QOS.
I know this might sound quite elaborate but surely scanning rings and Madeleline exposing the organisation and Q rather nifty graphics program he has to do the SPECTRE/Quantum family like Who Do You Think You Are, this is where the credibility well and truly went out the window and exposed P&W awful last minute joining the dots to be the work of total amatuers.
Better talents in this department could flesh this out but the point of the original thread poses that Silva isn't part of the organisation just a button that ESB pushes as Dench's M is getting too close depsite being told to back out of investigation from up high, possibly Guy Haines is still pulling the strings being a high operative. Haines could have featured in SPECTRE as well, if you really wanted to try and tie things together with some credibilty and I'm using elements that are already there.
Silva is financially backed and assisted as it suits Blofeld's purposes, ESB could even have said to Bond when they meet that he was just a thug he used to take out Dench's M.
Much better than what we got.
Yes, agree 100%
I think if you were ignoring using Blofeld angle that I was approaching this would work great.
White is one of the most intriguing and interesting characters of the DC era
My idea was focusing on taking existing ideas within the 4 films to reshape SPECTRE into something that didn't involve Brothergate and Blohauser.
Although Mr White as the ultimate big bad seems like a real missed opportunity but EON wanted to capitilise on gaining the rights back to ESB and SPECTRE, so rather than build the idea up they just spunked it on one unholy mess of a film.
There's no reason why ESB couldn't have been Mr. White (and up until Sp, I always thought of him as exactly that type of character).
They spunked on a messy script that had too many Chef's in the kitchen-- led by an unsure Sam Mendes who had too much wield over a story that was never working (no matter how hard he tried to have it personalized emotionally to Bond (as the Sony leaks made clear, it was Mendes, not Craig, who wanted a brother-gate-like connection from the beginning)), but terrible casting is also to blame.
They had the perfect Blofeld in Jesper Christensen. The way he laughs in the face of M and Bond in QoS... He WAS Blofeld.
Instead they cast Captain Obvious in the role and deny their own cheap-trick to everyone else.... Ugh- frustrating. But unlike some, I don't blame the lead actor for this. He did the best with what he got. And Sam then tried to make up for the rest with beautifully looking, yet static and boring, shots..
When did Daniel Craig write this script? or any variation of it? If you study the Sony leaks, brother-gate was Mendes baby from the word go.
"Mr. White died nine years ago, James. The man you're talking to now, the man inside your head, is Ernst Stavro Blofeld".
Also have Guy Haines back instead of Denbigh. Give him a different plot. Maybe he's just become the new Prime Minister.
Mr. White and Jesper Christensen = Blofeld...... Yes @Remington I am so on board with what you're saying. Christensen established himself, off the bat, as menacing, in CR... And this tone grew when we see him laugh in the face of Mi6... it could have organically have grown off the charts with SP...
Oh well. In my alternative reality, Christopher "Bonaparte" Waltz would not have been cast, and EoN would continue to stretch the character of Mr. White...
Keep Silva out of the equation as that cheapens his character. Spare us the godawful retcon.
I'm still stunned at how they manged to f**k it up.
Me too. It's a shame.