The James Bond Questions Thread

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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Its not so much about having a massive plot about something unrealistic like Moore, then the Last 2 craig films which have asked us to accept this gritty real life story but then riddle it with inconstancies and plot holes that really piss me off.
  • I think we're more or less saying the same thing, @JamesBondKenya: we're more willing to turn a blind eye to things that don't make sense in a fantasy/sci-fi type Bond film than with one grounded firmly in reality.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    I turn a blind eye to plotholes and inconsistencies because I don't care. I watch Bond to be entertained, not to pick it apart and deconstruct it until it bleeds to death ruining my carpet. ;)
  • BennyBenny Classified Administrator, Moderator
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    Minion wrote: »
    In Moonraker, why does Drax immediately try to murder Bond after he visits his chateau?

    I always took it was because Bond was clearly onto something. He tells Drax that they couldn't find any trace of the Moonraker in the wreckage of the downed 747. I figure Drax didn't want to take any chances, and arranged for Bond to have a seemingly innocent 'accident'.
  • MurdockMurdock Mr. 2000
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I turn a blind eye to plotholes and inconsistencies because I don't care. I watch Bond to be entertained, not to pick it apart and deconstruct it until it bleeds to death ruining my carpet. ;)


    I can't always turn a blind eye, but I agree that my enjoyment or preference for Bond films is never connected to any analytical scrutiny (like it or not it's a product by committee); it's the world of Bond and all that entails that matters to me. It's much more visceral than the way I enjoy other cinema.

    That pretty much sums up how I feel about Bond movies and non Bond movies in general. Well said.
  • edited September 2017 Posts: 1,469
    Benny wrote: »
    I always took it was because Bond was clearly onto something. He tells Drax that they couldn't find any trace of the Moonraker in the wreckage of the downed 747. I figure Drax didn't want to take any chances, and arranged for Bond to have a seemingly innocent 'accident'.
    Exactly right. Drax expected Bond to apologize for the loss, and instead Bond says there'll be more investigation, which Drax doesn't want because it would point to him. And it nicely sets up the centrifuge chamber scene.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Agreed, Bond was going to be trouble . So a tragic accident was arranged.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    So are most of the title artists the current most popular artist during that time? Re watching all the films and doing some research it seems like a majority of the title artists are super popular or have hit songs out during the era of each film? Am I wrong?

    For Craig's last film I guess you could guess based on the charts who might be the next artist?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Far, far, far, far, far, far, far away.
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    So are most of the title artists the current most popular artist during that time? Re watching all the films and doing some research it seems like a majority of the title artists are super popular or have hit songs out during the era of each film? Am I wrong?

    I would say you are. Only about a third of the theme songs were done by chart toppers at the time. Most others were more obscure acts.
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    So are most of the title artists the current most popular artist during that time? Re watching all the films and doing some research it seems like a majority of the title artists are super popular or have hit songs out during the era of each film? Am I wrong?

    I would say you are. Only about a third of the theme songs were done by chart toppers at the time. Most others were more obscure acts.

    Rita Coolidge comes to mind.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    So are most of the title artists the current most popular artist during that time? Re watching all the films and doing some research it seems like a majority of the title artists are super popular or have hit songs out during the era of each film? Am I wrong?

    I would say you are. Only about a third of the theme songs were done by chart toppers at the time. Most others were more obscure acts.

    Fair enough. I will say with Craig though...

    1. Chris Cornell was pretty big around 2006.

    2. Jack White and the white stripes were popular and so was Alicia Keys.

    3. Adele was the most popular artist in 2012.

    4. Sam Smith was the most popular artist in 2015.

    It seems there's a little bit of a pattern with Craig's bond films..

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Rita Coolidge and many other title artists don't rate as obscure, even if they weren't at the top of the charts at the time.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Biggest selling album this year is Michael Ball and Alfie Boe , so they're in
    with a chance.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
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    Biggest selling album this year is Michael Ball and Alfie Boe , so they're in
    with a chance.

    Never heard of them lol.

    I am talking about popularity and charts performance. Not including rap music or country artists/mainstream crap etc, here's the top 3 most popular artists who have the most Bondian sound. Not to turn this into a title song thread lol.

    1) Portugal. the man

    2) Bishop Briggs

    3) Sam Smith
  • ossyjackossyjack Blackburn, UK
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    Not sure if this has been raised earlier in this thread but I have a question about Casino Royale.

    After beating Le Chiffre, Bond and Vesper have drinks in the restaurant. Vesper then gets up to leave. After a few seconds alone thinking about things Bond suddenly says 'Mathis' and decides to run to the outside of the hotel, witnessing Vesper being bundled into the back of the car.

    Firstly, what was it that Bond realised all of a sudden to make him decide to get up and go sprinting outside the hotel, and what was it about Mathis that Bond had suddenly realised?

    Secondly, who was Bond chasing after? Was he running after Vesper or Mathis here? Did he suspect Vesper was in danger and was going after her, or was he after Mathis and his witnessing of Vesper's abduction flowed from that?

    I've never really understood the trigger for Bond's giving chase, unless I've missed something in the dialogue.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Doctor Nose
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    - What does the man supervising the ski jump say in Italian in FYEO?

    - What does Renard say (in Russian?) while shooting at Bond in the bunker in TWINE?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    - What does the man supervising the ski jump say in Italian in FYEO?

    - What does Renard say (in Russian?) while shooting at Bond in the bunker in TWINE?

    I'm Italian, I can check this tomorrow.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    - What does the man supervising the ski jump say in Italian in FYEO?

    - What does Renard say (in Russian?) while shooting at Bond in the bunker in TWINE?

    I'm Italian, I can check this tomorrow.

    Really ? have you registered on my 'As Blofeld would say...so,MI6 members,where are you from ? ' thread ?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Doctor Nose
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    Walecs wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    - What does the man supervising the ski jump say in Italian in FYEO?

    - What does Renard say (in Russian?) while shooting at Bond in the bunker in TWINE?

    I'm Italian, I can check this tomorrow.

    Please do! Bond also says something to him (and points to something) right before jumping.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    edited September 2017 Posts: 3,157
    mattjoes wrote: »
    - What does the man supervising the ski jump say in Italian in FYEO?

    He says "Libero", which literally means "Free", as in the slide is free and the next skier may proceed.

    Then he asks Bond "E tu dove hai il casco?", which means "Where's your helmet?" and Bond answers "Guarda!" which means "Look!"

    He finally calls to his radio: "Guardie, c'è un pazzo qua!", which means "Guards, there's a fool in here!"
  • mattjoesmattjoes Doctor Nose
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    Walecs wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    - What does the man supervising the ski jump say in Italian in FYEO?

    He says "Libero", which literally means "Free", as in the slide is free and the next skier may proceed.

    Then he asks Bond "E tu dove hai il casco?", which means "Where's your helmet?" and Bond answers "Guarda!" which means "Look!"

    He finally calls to his radio: "Guardie, c'è un pazzo qua!", which means "Guards, there's a fool in here!"

    Thank you. I'd wanted to know that for years!
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    NicNac wrote: »
    We accept plot anomalies in Roger Moore Bonds far more readily than in Daniel Craig films.

    Because Roger Moore's films are about destroying the Earth with spheres of poisonous gas launched from outer space or nuclear armaggedon and Craig's films are about water shortages and misplaced laptops and they each ask of their audiences unique degrees of disbelief suspension?

    Well, Roger Moore's Bond films were equally about two bit assassins, drug smuggling and diving off the coast of Greece looking for a type writer.

    But I get your point.
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    ATAC as a glorified typewriter. Now that made me laugh! :))
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Cutting edge Amstrad technology. ;-)
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer @ http://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Cutting edge Amstrad technology. ;-)

    I assume that it typed in green then?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    NicNac wrote: »
    We accept plot anomalies in Roger Moore Bonds far more readily than in Daniel Craig films.

    This is an interesting point. Certainly the Rog era and Sean in YOLT and DAF would collapse if they were subject to the same critical scalpel as the Craig era but they get away with stuff that we would go mental about these days.

    Even OHMSS gets a free pass with Blofeld not recognising Bond. If in B25 Bond infiltrates Blofeld's HQ with some glasses and a kilt and is not recognised everyone will tear it apart.

    One of the reasons (apart from the most recent always being the most criticised) I think is because with CR they set Craig era up as being more grounded and realistic. In addition with the Mendes era there is this perception that Bond films are now 'high art' (for want of a better word) and a cut above the Austin Powers excesses of the 70s which we are all supposed to look back on with embarassment.

    The trouble comes when you set yourself up as being serious films not over the top romps but then deliver scripts that are no less full of sloppiness you end up being slaughtered. What people can ignore in a Rog film because they know to check their brain in at the door and just enjoy the ride sticks out like a sore thumb when you're pretending you're making another Tinker Tailor.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited October 2017 Posts: 15,423
    It's always been a mystery to me as to who is the artist behind the famous James Bond portrait that Fleming himself described the character to be depicted as. Does anybody know who the artist is?

    Fleming007impression.jpg
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_(comic_strip)

    Answered here - a gentleman named John McLusky
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I don't believe that's McLusky's drawing. Or is it?

    I thought the comic strip version that coincidentally resembled Connery was McLusky's.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    That's what I thought as well. I thought the well known image you posted above was an earlier interpretation.
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