The Man from U.N.C.L.E.: original series & films

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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The production budget is apparently estimated to be $75 million. Thus, it doesn't have to be a blockbuster hit to make some money, so we'll see how it opens everywhere else. If it's only going to make around $15 million this weekend domestically, then I don't see the following weekend being any kinder to it, so it'll have to rely on a large foreign box office return.

    Wow..that's a lot..I thought it was made for less money....

    This means the movie must make around 200m worldwide to be decent....and with 13.5 oppening... :/

    This movie depends on the rest of the world..

    And seeing as "Straight Outta Compton" does not have a that wide of a release in the rest of the world..it might end up making...well idk hopefully around 100m worldwide ?

    What do movies usually make in UK ?
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 389
    Just seen it today, not great, not awful, a bit of a none event that just felt like a missed oppertunity.
    If you look at the Mission Impossible films they didn't ditch the source material, they just updated & kept true to the original, the fuse, the signature tune, the masks, the self destructing mission instructions, check, check & check again.

    Sorry I loved the original series & this though not as bad as I first feared, is sin of sin's instantly forgetable.

    Roll on SPECTRE!
  • Creasy47 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    It's now looking like even a $15 million opening weekend will be a stretch.

    $13.5 million.

    Not even that. It's looking to tie 'Pixels' this weekend with $12 million total.

    $13.5 million is the estimate that came out before noon ET.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @dragonsky, see what I posted right before you, because it's not even making $13.5 million this weekend. It's a bomb so far, suppose we'll see how it does in other markets.
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 1,661
    Gustav_Graves said:

    I think there are quite a few Bond films that are even worse than "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.".

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    fanbond123 wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves said:

    I think there are quite a few Bond films that are even worse than "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.".

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  • Posts: 11,119
    I think this is the best piece of spy music I have heard this entire year 2015.....so far. John Barry-esqye, goosebumps, reminiscent of "We Have All The Time In The World". It's the kind of music I would have liked to hear when James Bond 007 was kneeling down on Vesper's dead body in "Casino Royale". Something David Arnold couldn't compose. Daniel Pemberton did it instead:



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    Cowley wrote: »
    If we’re considering TV adaptations at the cinema this year It’s a shame that some people on here rejoiced in the bad reviews and box office performance on the home grown spy film ‘Spooks: The Greater Good’. Whilst I appreciate it lacked the scope of an epic big budget film to compete with the big hitters it was absolutely like the TV series and not disappointing like U.N.C.L.E.
    I'm glad to hear some love for this, it hasn't shown up stateside and what little I've read has focused on the utterly uncharismatic lead they brought in. If it is like the series, I am greatly relieved, because I really do enjoy that series a tremendous amount, even the later casts.
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 11,119
    trevanian wrote: »
    Cowley wrote: »
    If we’re considering TV adaptations at the cinema this year It’s a shame that some people on here rejoiced in the bad reviews and box office performance on the home grown spy film ‘Spooks: The Greater Good’. Whilst I appreciate it lacked the scope of an epic big budget film to compete with the big hitters it was absolutely like the TV series and not disappointing like U.N.C.L.E.
    I'm glad to hear some love for this, it hasn't shown up stateside and what little I've read has focused on the utterly uncharismatic lead they brought in. If it is like the series, I am greatly relieved, because I really do enjoy that series a tremendous amount, even the later casts.

    Style-wise it's really very much like the TV Series. I'm glad I saw it in cinema. If you have time read my review on page 45.
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    I can really see "The Man From UNCLE" doing something similar as "Kingsman": A +400 Million global box office take, securing also a sequel for this, possibly succesful, Warner-franchise.

    :P
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    dinovelvet wrote: »
    I can really see "The Man From UNCLE" doing something similar as "Kingsman": A +400 Million global box office take, securing also a sequel for this, possibly succesful, Warner-franchise.

    :P

    Ooowh, let me weigh in on this. I'm the first one admitting I was completely, dead-wrong about it :-). Let's see if it can make the $200 Million worldwide.
  • Posts: 1,661
    It's a flop, people!

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Even $200 million is going to be a large stretch to reach.
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    Yup, it's a flop. So what?

    I guess it's hard to......discuss in a positive way about the film. It'll be only "it's a flop!" talk from now on. Film didn't deserve that.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Even $200 million is going to be a large stretch to reach.

    Yup, I think it'll be more in line with this film:
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jackryan.htm
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Now before we all bury UNCLE and sing a swan song let's wait till Monday when we will have worldwide figures for the first 4 days.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Well 'Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit' looked horrible and ended up being horrible. I was harsh on this from the start, but the one trailer I saw in the cinemas caught my eye, doesn't look anywhere near the level of 'Shadow Recruit' at all. Box office is irrelevant (unless you're hoping for a sequel), though, if you enjoy it! Look at Fincher's 'The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo': it either barely made money or fell slightly short of making money, but it was my favorite film of that year.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo was quite good because of Rooney Mara.
    But let's face it Daniel Craig was horribly miscast for that movie and he was very unconvincing.

    Alexander Skarsgård should have been cast or Joel Kinnaman.
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    If you ask my wife, Skars and Kinnaman should be getting cast for everything (am looking at serious jobs as well as you, THOR!) And to tell you the truth, I'm starting to agree with her (assuming they stop taking jobs like BATTLESHIP and ROBOCOP.)
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    edited August 2015 Posts: 10,512
    I think It's the kind of music I would have liked to hear when James Bond 007 was kneeling down on Vesper's dead body in "Casino Royale". Something David Arnold couldn't compose. Daniel Pemberton did it instead:



    Good job you weren't directing the film. The Vesper scene is perfectly executed by Arnold. If someone cares to put this track over the Vesper death it will show how badly it would work.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That track may work somewhere in 'The Man From U.N.C.L.E.,' but I think it would've been horribly out of place as soon as Vesper is confirmed as dead and Bond is hovering over her.
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    I just think it's really a good tune....that really captures me. I simply love it. Builds on nicely to a climax.
  • Posts: 232
    Oh, that REALLY works for me. Especially in an early to mid 70s way, when downer endings were still possible, coupled with a movie-standard pullback shot. Not sure if it would have helped CR or not for me, because the movie doesn't float, but it couldn't have hurt.
  • Haven't seen The Man From U.N.C.L.E so I can't comment on its entertainment value.
    However a $13m opening during the summer for a potential franchise film is a complete and utter disaster for Warner Bros. In comparison their 1998 film The Avengers (also based on a 1960s TV show) actually had a higher screen average on its opening weekend way back in 1998!

    More people went to see THE AVENGERS (1998) than The Man From U.N.C.L.E !!

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=1998&wknd=33&p=.htm

    Unless U.N.C.L.E makes serious coin overseas there is no way that a sequel will see the light of day.
  • Posts: 709
    Amusingly they both opened on the same weekend of August. Clearly UNCLE could have used some Connery in a teddy bear suit.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Haven't seen The Man From U.N.C.L.E so I can't comment on its entertainment value.
    However a $13m opening during the summer for a potential franchise film is a complete and utter disaster for Warner Bros. In comparison their 1998 film The Avengers (also based on a 1960s TV show) actually had a higher screen average on its opening weekend way back in 1998!

    More people went to see THE AVENGERS (1998) than The Man From U.N.C.L.E !!

    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=1998&wknd=33&p=.htm

    Unless U.N.C.L.E makes serious coin overseas there is no way that a sequel will see the light of day.

    I'm quite sad really. The movie doesn't deserve to be a complete flop. I saw it last Friday in cinema, and although not as exciting as "Rogue Nation" (see my review on the previous page), I thought it was worth the money.

    It's also quite interesting to see that now, because it's a flop, people start throwing each other with bad reviews....from Cinemascore, Metastatic, Boxofficemojo and IMDB. It's as if the tag "flop" invites people to be a disaster tourist.

    And when people referring to the good reviews of "Skyfall", they were flushing those reviews down the toilet. As if we dislike it being told that "Skyfall" was that good.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Box office is irrelevant (unless you're hoping for a sequel), though, if you enjoy it! Look at Fincher's 'The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo': it either barely made money or fell slightly short of making money, but it was my favorite film of that year.

    true - i very enjoyed Watchmen, and that was considered a bomb... The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo was similar in that regard, to a degree..

    where films like those differ from The Man From U.N.C.L.E, is that this film was met with only a "meh, it's ok." sort of reaction - with the general consensus being that it's more style over substance..

    but you are right - box office returns only really matter (as a fan) when your talking about possible sequels, which as it stands right now, I don't think this film will be getting one at all - unless it does remarkably overseas, but getting off to only a $13mil start it's opening weekend doesn't bode well... because critic opinions aside, nothing makes or breaks a film faster than word of mouth from the average movie goer - and if they are echoing the same sentiments of the critics, more people might be inclined to pass on it...

    btw - isn't funny that a film that evokes the name of James Bond in it's television advertisements (ie: This film does it better than Bond), it usually doesn't pan out too well? lol
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 5,767
    I enjoyed the film. Wasn't the best, but for sure not the worst. It kept me entertained throughout, and that's what counts. I wouldn't mind a sequel at all.
    I have no idea though, @GustavGraves, where there's supposed to be any musical qualification for Bond in this film. I thought the bits that sounded like Morricone worked well, the rest was ok but not great. The Ocean's Eleven-like rare-groove funky bits felt between appropriate and obtrusive.

    All in all, I didn't see any special resemblance to Bond. It reminded me neither of any 60s Bond film nor of any later ones. So IMO it is quite out of the place to compare the two.
  • Cowley wrote: »
    Let’s hope Warner will green-light a sequel, despite the mixed box office earnings so far. The characters have been rebooted, so now a 2nd U.N.C.L.E.-film can focus more on a better, more thrilling, exciting story.

    Ain't going to happen.
    I think there are quite a few Bond films that are even worse than "The Man From U.N.C.L.E.".

    Heresy! ;-)

    If we’re considering TV adaptations at the cinema this year It’s a shame that some people on here rejoiced in the bad reviews and box office performance on the home grown spy film ‘Spooks: The Greater Good’. Whilst I appreciate it lacked the scope of an epic big budget film to compete with the big hitters it was absolutely like the TV series and not disappointing like U.N.C.L.E.

    Quite right @Cowley. Next to U.N.C.L.E. , SPOOKS was a masterpiece. That said, it wasn't good enough to warrant a cinema release. If I'd viewed it on TV, I'd have been quite happy but cinema no.
    The best spy release this year has been, without doubt, BBC's 'The Game'. I truly hope that get's a second series.
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    One can't help but notice that most of the feed back from viewers, good or bad, still indicates that they would not mind seeing a sequel. Seems to indicate that something was working. BTW MI^'s own review of UNCLE was fairly positive.
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