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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    ThighsOfXenia wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    The Nolan rip-offs in SF were much more obvious to me. It bothered me quite a bit for the first year or so. Now I can watch the film without that eating away at my enjoyment.

    I was too busy basking in its glory on my first watch to notice, but after that I'm with you. It doesn't put me off anymore, although I still have a few issues with the film as a whole.

    I am in no way a SF hater, I often defend the film, but if their was one criticism I have of the film it is that while I may love it and see it as one of the greats, Skyfall doesn't really add to the bond films as a whole. It's a supremely enjoyable outing, a great popcorn flick, but I doesn't give you the kind of touchstones that a classic entry would. Think about those first six films, each one has a handful (at least) of scenes, lines of dialogue, characters that will never be forgotten and changed what bond films meant to audiences. Their have been a few films since (LTK, CR) that have managed this, and Skyfall doesn't do it. The film borrows from the past instead of creating for itself. In that respect, it will always be a slight disappointment.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,690
    1. LTK
    2. CR
    3. OP / LALD ( tied)
    4. DN/ FRWL (tied)
    5. GE / TLD ( tied)
    6. QOS
    7. OHMSS
    8. TND / SF (tied)
    9. TWINE
    10. AVTAK

    Those are the ones I'd be able to watch over and over again.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    1. LTK
    2. CR
    3. OP / LALD ( tied)
    4. DN/ FRWL (tied)
    5. GE / TLD ( tied)
    6. QOS
    7. OHMSS
    8. TND / SF (tied)
    9. TWINE
    10. AVTAK

    Those are the ones I'd be able to watch over and over again.

    Very nice list. I agree with nine of those, but I'd also add TSWLM and FYEO.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 2016 Posts: 8,083
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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    suavejmf wrote: »
    From Russia With Love
    Casino Royale
    Thunderball
    Dr. No
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Goldfinger
    Licence to Kill
    The Living Daylights
    Skyfall
    Live and Let Die
    Quantum of Solace
    You Only Live Twice
    For Your Eyes Only
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Never Say Never Again
    Diamonds are Forever
    The Man With the Golden Gun
    Goldeneye
    A View to a Kill
    Octopussy
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    Moonraker
    Die Another Day

    Where will Spectre be? I suspect high! NSNA controvercially included. Anything more Fleming goings higher up the list. The 90's era was the worst!

    Slightly amended.
  • ChrisMC36SSRChrisMC36SSR
    Posts: 129
    1. From Russia With Love
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. Dr. No
    4. Casino Royale
    5. Goldfinger
    6. Skyfall
    7. The Living Daylights
    8. Thunderball
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me
    10. Goldeneye
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. For Your Eyes Only
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies
    14. Live and Let Die
    15. Octopussy
    16. Quantum Of Solace
    17. Moonraker
    18. You Only Live Twice
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. The Man With the Golden Gun
    21. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. The World is Not Enough
    23. Die Another Day
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,588
    1. Skyfall
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Goldfinger
    4. Casino Royale
    5. The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. The World is not Enough
    7. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    8. The Living Daylights
    9. Dr. No
    10. Live and Let Die
    11. From Russia With Love
    12. Quantum of Solace
    13. Thunderball
    14. Tomorrow Never Dies
    15. A View to a Kill
    16. Octopussy
    17. For Your Eyes Only
    18. Moonraker
    19. You Only Live Twice
    20. Diamonds are Forever
    21. The Man With the Golden Gun
    22. License to Kill
    23. Die Another Day



  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I see that the DAD hate is firmly entrenched regardless of other entries being at least as silly. :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,691
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Given the history of sets and live action stunts in this series, the legendary and ground-breaking work done by teams of professionals, I find so much of what we have here an insult to the franchise.
    True, but on a technical & budgetary level it was the CGI wave of the future.
    Sadly.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,595
    Yeah, the reliance on CGI is extremely frustrating. If a team says, "We can achieve the stunt, but we'll need CGI" the Bond franchise should re-write said stunt unless the use of CGI is extremely minimal and only used to add "flavor" to the stunt.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited April 2015 Posts: 23,883
    They had a lowest common denominator way of thinking during that era, as has been discussed a lot here.

    I think they just wanted to be bigger and badder with the stunts, and thought the audience would continue to lap it up (after all, the box office was improving in $ terms, even though it was falling behind on relative terms in comparison to other box office successes of the day). The disintegrating plane part at the end is just awful, as is the stunt falling out of the back in the helicopter, especially in comparison to the similar, yet phenomenal real work done with the Jeep by Glen & Co in TLD.

    In a way it reminded me of the early to mid 80's when many action movies had awful special effects. Some of the Airport movies come to mind - the Concorde one was disgraceful compared to Airport 1975 (or Airport 2) in particular. The Phantom Menace also comes to mind from the late 90's.

    They should have realized that it would not 'age' well - which is critical when dealing with a franchise like Bond which has staying power & continues to thrive decade after decade.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,691
    Well said @bondjames.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Birdleson wrote: »
    To me, the reason , above all else, that I feel compelled to put DAD dead last, though parts of it are excellent (few), is the gross reliance on CGI in the place of actual stunts. Given the history of sets and live action stunts in this series, the legendary and ground-breaking work done by teams of professionals, I find so much of what we have here an insult to the franchise.

    True. Add to that poor Director, poor script, poor villan, AWFUL Q scene, invisible car.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,554
    DAD has two things going for it:
    1. "London Calling" on the soundtrack
    2. Rosamund Pike

    The PTS isn't bad, and I even like the Madonna title song when coupled that title sequence. But golly gee...

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    Words can't describe how bad this is.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited April 2015 Posts: 11,189
    After DAD he did seem to become something of a hack. He directed Along Came a Spider, which I once enjoyed but after seeing it again recently is distinctly average, and :-& XX2
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited April 2015 Posts: 11,189
    I remember @TheWizardOfIce saying that The Devil's Double was pretty good. I've not seen it though.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Birdleson wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    True. Add to that poor Director...

    That I can't agree with. He was a poor choice to direct a Bond film, no doubt, but he has shown that he is extremely talented. His masterpiece, ONCE WERE WARRIORS, is certainly one of the best films to come out of the '90s.

    Yes I agree. POOR BOND director. I thought 'The Devils Double' was a good film.
  • Perilagu_KhanPerilagu_Khan
    Posts: 2,483
    1. OHMSS
    2. SF (no loss of gloss or APPEAL!)
    3. LTK
    4. GE
    5. CR
    6. TLD
    7. FRWL
    8. DAF
    9. LALD
    10. FYEO
    11. TB
    12. DN
    13. Gun
    14. Spy
    15. QoS
    16. MR
    17. GF
    18. AVTAK
    19. TND
    20. YOLT
    21. OP
    22. TWINE
    23. DAD
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,263
    I've compiled an approximate list based on the number of views given to each Bond film this year. In some spots it is vastly different than my rankings. I would guess that's either because a particular quality of a film may interest me in multiple viewings or that I have just managed to watch some of them on television more readily by chance alone.

    1. Skyfall (+1)
    2. The World Is Not Enough (+14)
    3. Goldfinger (+1)
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies (+3)
    5. Diamonds Are Forever (+8)
    6. Casino Royale (-5)
    7. The Living Daylights (+1)
    8. From Russia With Love (-5)
    9. Octopussy (+2)
    10. For Your Eyes Only (-4)
    11. Goldeneye (-6)
    12. Licence To Kill (+11)
    13. A View To A Kill (+9)
    14. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (-2)
    15. Dr. No (-6)
    16. The Spy Who Loved Me (-2)
    17. You Only Live Twice (--)
    18. Quantum Of Solace (-8)
    19. The Man With The Golden Gun (--)
    20. Thunderball (-5)
    21. Moonraker (--)
    22. Die Another Day (-4)
    23. Live And Let Die (-3)

    Fun Facts:
    - Completely unintentionally, the top two films have the most Judi Dench screen time. I swear that is just coincidence. =))
    - The biggest jump is The World Is Not Enough. This was a childhood favorite of mine, as well as the N64 video game based on the film. It has great momentum at times, mostly in the beginning, that draw me in. I don't find the ending as off-putting as some. The whole concept is never meant to be taken as seriously as other titles. In fact, I recently came across an interview of Pierce Brosnan on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon stating that the most ridiculous stunt he ever did was the ski scene in that film. Overall, it's a pleasing watch for me.
    - I've given Licence To Kill numerous chances to appeal to me. Certain aspects of it are brilliant and have made me re-think its placement in my rankings. However, the drugs plot, unnecessary gore, and Dalton's tendency to flip his extremely dark Bond portrayal into a more grounded character to be displeasing to me. I feel like Dalton really only achieves the lighter side of the character with Q, compared to his completely balanced portrayal in The Living Daylights.
    - I alluded to my interest in Diamonds Are Forever in my previous post. I don't really mind Connery's dullest performance as Bond in an official Eon Production to take away from the excitement of the picture. In fact, I believe if Connery gave it his all and the plot was tweaked, particulately at the end, it could rank among the top Bond films. The plot in the beginning is one of the most exciting. If only they took advantage of it being the revenge of his wife's murder and made the second half amount to more than just catching Blofeld as if he was just another criminal, this would be spectacular.
    - Quantum Of Solace has the biggest drop from my rankings when translating over to views. The reasoning is twofold, one is that it hasn't been shown on television as often and with all the other ones I've been watching, haven't had the time to put in the Blu-Ray. Otherwise, I do find some of the action scenes jarring. From a performance standpoint, it could possibly be the best of the Craig era, though. Some of the best moments we have seen from him come from this film, which is why I hold it in higher regard than my viewing shows.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited April 2015 Posts: 45,489
    Another update on the average rankings. Some shocking changes.

    1 FRWL
    2 CR
    3 GF up from 4
    4 OHMSS down from 3
    5 DN up from 8
    6 SF
    7 TLD up from 10
    8 TB down from 5
    9 GE
    10TSWLM down from 7
    11LTK up from 13
    12LALD
    13FYEO down from 11
    14QOS up from 16
    15YOLT down from 13
    16OP down from 15
    17TND up from 19
    18TWINE down from 17
    19TMWTGG down from 18
    20DAF
    21AVTAK up from 22
    22MR down from 21
    23DAD
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Great to see some growing appreciation for DN.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Great to see some growing appreciation for DN.

    One of the best. I can't understand the love for GE on this site.....members love it. I think it's average at best (plot, actor etc), but it is really loved!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    I like GE but above TSWLM? An erroneous collective judgement by the users of this site that will eventually correct itself surely...
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    Posts: 1,595
    bondjames wrote: »
    I like GE but above TSWLM? An erroneous collective judgement by the users of this site that will eventually correct itself surely...

    I love them equally.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,421
    23. Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
    22. The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
    21. Die Another Day (2002)
    20. Moonraker (1979)
    19. A View To A Kill (1985)
    18. Live and Let Die (1973)
    17. You Only Live Twice (1967)
    16. For Your Eyes Only (1981)
    15. GoldenEye (1995)
    14. Octopussy (1983)
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
    12. Quantum of Solace (2008)
    11. Goldfinger (1964)
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
    9. Skyfall (2012)
    8. Dr No (1962)
    7. The World Is Enough (1999)
    6. Thunderball (1965)
    5. The Living Daylights (1987)
    4. Licence To Kill (1989)
    3. Casino Royale (2006)
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
    1. From Russia With Love (1963)

    This is my latest rankings. They've been pretty consistent for some time, so I'll doubt they'll change. At until Spectre is released anywho ;-)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    A lot of people are doing a "Bondathon" now, so there should be some fresh rankings soon. I will try to update my own after the release of SPECTRE. I haven t seen an awful many Bond films lately.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,265
    I've REALLY been in the mood to watch some Bond again - I've been in a bit of a hiatus lately :/ I will be doing the whole marathon leading up to Spectre for sure, with a couple ranking changes likely. Can't wait to see the rest of everyone's before/after Spectre!
  • SharkySharky
    Posts: 266
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Another update on the average rankings. Some shocking changes.

    1 FRWL
    2 CR
    3 GF up from 4
    4 OHMSS down from 3
    5 DN up from 8
    6 SF
    7 TLD up from 10
    8 TB down from 5
    9 GE
    10TSWLM down from 7
    11LTK up from 13
    12LALD
    13FYEO down from 11
    14QOS up from 16
    15YOLT down from 13
    16OP down from 15
    17TND up from 19
    18TWINE down from 17
    19TMWTGG down from 18
    20DAF
    21AVTAK up from 22
    22MR down from 21
    23DAD

    I like your list, I think we are on a similar wavelength I will put my rankings up again and I think the films will be in similar spost.

    1) FRWL
    2) OHMSS
    3) GF
    4) SF
    5) CR
    6) TLD
    7) TSWLM
    8) LALD
    9) TB
    10) GE
    11) DN
    12) FYEO
    13) LTK
    14) OP
    15) YOLT
    16) QOS
    17) TWINE
    18) TND
    19) TMWTGG
    20) MR
    21) DAF
    22) AVTAK
    23) DAD

    I've got LALD a few places higher where as you've got DN a few places higher, I think I rank LALD higher than most as it was the first one I see and I have a massive soft spot for it and DN does go up and down in my rankings so it will probably go up again next time I view them all.

    But I don't think our lists and taste's are too different.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    That is the average of people s different rankings, so yours is pretty average. Personally I would never put GE so high or FYEO so low.
  • SharkySharky
    Posts: 266
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    That is the average of people s different rankings, so yours is pretty average. Personally I would never put GE so high or FYEO so low.

    Sorry about that, I get it now. Yeah it looks like I'm pretty much average but my list changes so much apart from the top five (as from 2012) and the bottom five which stay the same, films like FYEO,DN,LTK do regularly go up into my top ten and then drop out again depending on my mood and what film I've just watched etc.

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