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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    If only SP could have a score as great as Arnold's in TND.
    Murdock wrote: »
    With Newman scoring my expectations are very low.

    Relax guys. Newman will come up with the goods. Trust me.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Yup learning curve ..
  • pjvpjv Australia
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    Hi guys,
    I have tried to see on earlier pages if anyone has asked this without success, so could anyone clear up for me (as I haven't read any of the scripts/outlines):
    1. how does Bond track White down to the cabin?
    2. Is the female agent in the pts a kickass help to bond like MP was in SF, or more a character like that in Octopussy's pts? and
    3. Are the Spectre operatives in the film mysterious characters like in CR or boring ones like in QOS?

    Thanks
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    1. At the Spectre meeting in Rome. Moreau says "The death of Marco Sciarra leaves one of his duties outstanding: The neutralisation of The Pale King. Who will complete the job at Mondsee"?
    Later during the car chase he gets the information from Moneypenny that The Pale King is Mr White.
    2. The woman in the PTS is Bond's love interest in Mexico
    3. Good question. I suppose they will be very mysterious characters, they all look a bit creepy
  • edited February 2015 Posts: 851
    How do you now that ? After read a lot of pages of this topics i thinks i understand that few members have full early script(s) ? How is possible ? I want read it to for me, but i can't find it in the web :( Where did you get it ?
    Who include "the car chase" ?
  • pjvpjv Australia
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    Thanks Aaron 819
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    How do you now that ? After read a lot of pages of this topics i thinks i understand that few members have full early script(s) ? How is possible ? I want read it to for me, but i can't find it in the web :( Where did you get it ?
    Who include "the car chase" ?

    The Spectre script is not available on this forum. Please do not seek to get a copy from any member. Any sign that a member has been attempting to obtain or share the Spectre script will result in an instant ban.
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    Murdock wrote: »
    With Newman scoring my expectations are very low.

    Bit harsh that on multipe Oscar nominee Mr Newman! I thought his score was excellent tbh.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    With Newman scoring my expectations are very low.

    Bit harsh that on multipe Oscar nominee Mr Newman! I thought his score was excellent tbh.

    Half of the score was serviceable. The rest was mediocre and unBond like. Just because he won Oscars doesn't mean he's immune to criticism. I expect more from Bond music.
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    1. At the Spectre meeting in Rome. Moreau says "The death of Marco Sciarra leaves one of his duties outstanding: The neutralisation of The Pale King. Who will complete the job at Mondsee"?
    Later during the car chase he gets the information from Moneypenny that The Pale King is Mr White.
    2. The woman in the PTS is Bond's love interest in Mexico
    3. Good question. I suppose they will be very mysterious characters, they all look a bit creepy

    Re #2. I think Estrella is a local agent helping Bond, as well as love interest (Penelope Cruz?)
    She reminds of OP pts.
  • pjvpjv Australia
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    Hey guys/girls
    This new pts sounds great with the Carnival of the dead, hunting down Sciarra and agent Estrella. I also heard half of the city is destroyed in the process. Can anyone tell me if it ends of a winning/funny note or more like the SF pts.
    Also, a while back some people were talking about Felix and the CIA being in the script... Is this true for the most recent draft and if so how do they fit in?
    Cheers:)
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    Jeffrey Wright has already ruled himself out, as he will be working on the last Hunger Games film
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    Felix is mentioned by name in the script.
  • As youve probably seen, someone posted saying Italian Bond Club Le Cercle have said that today Craig and Bellucci are going to be on Terrazza Caffarelli, at Campidoglio. I don't think the script required a scene that takes place somewhere in Rome unless it's doubling as Lucia's villa? So I think this will be where the photocall takes place.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    Is the photo call in Rome still scheduled for today? I hope to see some pictures.
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    regarding the pts, the destruction involves a building which collapses.
    Bond chases down a helicopter taking off, survives that battle and radios in to sultry female accomplice, waiting at hotel room, that he is returning.
    If Penelope does indeed play this part, I think it would be a very strong small-part Bond girl role. Maybe the best ever.
    The part would get decent screen time.
    We see Bond and Estrella walking through the lobby of the hotel, and up the elevator and down the hall. Some coy banter in the room. You could flash back to her later, as she anxiously awaits Bond's return.
    There is plenty of potential here to showcase Cruz's ample beauty and sex appeal, as well as for her to get off some memorable lines. By that I mean, anything she says will be memorable. It is the red hot Cruz we are talking about here.
    The combination of both older beauties, the fiery Cruz and sultry Bellucci in the same film is tantalizing.
  • **POTENTIAL SPOILER AHEAD**
    I recently read the shooting list for SPECTRE (part of the Sony leak) and while there is plenty of action set for Austria (as we already saw in the behind the scenes clip that dropped last week), there is no mention of a ski scene. That said, Austrian ski resort Solden has one of their trails (pistes to all you European skiers) closed this week for shooting. I'm wondering if they've added a ski scene to the script. Does anyone have any insight?

    I'd also be curious to gauge fan's interest in a ski scene. I think it's a great tradition to see Bond on skis, and I've skied in Solden before and can confirm it's a fantastic location. Seems like a missed opportunity to shoot in one of Austria's most stunning ski resorts and not put Craig on skis, especially considering how far ski movies and stunts have come (the sequence in TWINE was terrible in the context of modern skiing).
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    LeChiffre wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    With Newman scoring my expectations are very low.

    Bit harsh that on multipe Oscar nominee Mr Newman! I thought his score was excellent tbh.

    I agree. The SF score was nothing short of amazing. I don't understand the anti-Newman stance on these boards.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    His score didn't really stand out to me. It didn't sound remotely Bondian. It just sounded generic to me. Needs more Bond theme though. It's been held back too much these days.

    How I feel about Newman's score is how some of you feel about Arnold's music. :)
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    I just hope we get another belting Them tune. I would welcome Adele back quite happily. Or Muse for that matter but I guess this for another discussion thread.
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    I doubt a ski scene has been added. There has been no hint of Bond on skis. No mention either.
    I think the closed piste might be worked into the end of the land-rover chase, after the plane crashes.
    Isn't there a scene where Bond uses the broken plane as a big ski or something, and takes off down a hill?
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
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    timmer wrote: »
    I doubt a ski scene has been added. There has been no hint of Bond on skis. No mention either.
    I think the closed piste might be worked into the end of the land-rover chase, after the plane crashes.
    Isn't there a scene where Bond uses the broken plane as a big ski or something, and takes off down a hill?

    Yes there is a scene where he toboggans down the slope in the smashed up plane.
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    aaron819 wrote: »
    Yes there is a scene where he toboggans down the slope in the smashed up plane.
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  • I'm kinda hoping Sciarra's death scene will be changed, I'm not sure about him flying into the helicopter rotor. Plus it'll just make laugh when we see his coffin cause I doubt they'd be much left to stick in a coffin once that happens.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Bond doesn't say rest in pieces, does he?
  • I'm kinda hoping Sciarra's death scene will be changed, I'm not sure about him flying into the helicopter rotor. Plus it'll just make laugh when we see his coffin cause I doubt they'd be much left to stick in a coffin once that happens.

    Personally I hope they find some way to make that bit work as scripted, I'll be honest for some reason I like how it's almost a throwback to an Indiana Jones kinda action bit, much like Carlos in Casino Royale, a nasty end for a henchman character but it could be done in a way that isn't too extreme. Makes me think almost of the similar bits in both Captain America movies and I actually really liked those films as well.

    I mean through out the Craig era we've already seen villains shot, stabbed, dropped to their deaths, blown up, incinerated, necks broken, attacked/eaten by animals. You should look up "Red Bull acrobatic helicopter" videos to see how they could make a really creative and innovative action scene, not unlike the parkour in Royale. Like I said I hope they do something along the lines of how it's scripted, or they could have another helicopter hovering below or perhaps a nod to Agent Under Fire and Sciarra falls into a ventilating fan on a building roof?

    There's nothing really that funny about the coffin, there are instances where there isn't much left for burial and what remains is usually cremated and the urn placed in a coffin, especially if someone already has a burial crypt/tomb/mausoleum space and coffin purchased, I'd assume someone like Sciarra in his profession would have things like that prepared.
  • pjvpjv Australia
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    I have a few questions for all of you out there:)
    1. Can anyone confirm for me if either scripts mention bond actually watching a video of the deceased 'M' in SP? It would be nice to see a cameo of Judy pop up for ten seconds or so.
    2. Does Bond definitely have a woman in his apartment when MP comes visiting?
    3. Finally - do any aspects of the scripts hark back to any of the Fleming novels. Sam Mendes is always saying he loves the books and likes to use them when he can - I just finished reading Moonraker again and there are so many things from Bonds office & home life which could be included in the films.
    (I long for the day Lil Ponsenbery and housekeeper
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    pjv wrote: »
    1. Can anyone confirm for me if either scripts mention bond actually watching a video of the deceased 'M' in SP? It would be nice to see a cameo of Judy pop up for ten seconds or so.
    2. Does Bond definitely have a woman in his apartment when MP comes visiting?

    1. Yes, he watches it two times, and we will see Judi doing a cameo in it. The complete mission in SPECTRE is ordered by the late 'M', not by the new 'M'.
    2. Yes, he has a woman in his bedroom. Oberhauser later reveals that he sent the woman to spy on Bond. So it's actually a Spectre-agent-woman.
  • Reading the script I felt the cameo by Dench was forced and unnecessary. It's not bad just unnecessary. Why not have new M send him out to investigate Sciarra. He can reprimand Bond still when he gets back to Lomdon for destroying half of Mexico City. It just doesn't make sense that Old M would have this pertinent information on Sciarra that would only be sent to Bomd after her death. Hope if they do go with the cameo route it comes off smoother then what it sounds in the script. One very small problem I have with an otherwise brilliant script.
  • Mi6LisbonBranchMi6LisbonBranch Lisbon, Portugal
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    If only SP could have a score as great as Arnold's in TND.
    Murdock wrote: »
    With Newman scoring my expectations are very low.

    Relax guys. Newman will come up with the goods. Trust me.

    Hi guys, i agree with all of you. Arnold was great in TND (and espacially CR), my favourite DA OST.
    But i also believe that Newman will be up to the task!
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