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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 10:15am Posts: 19,658
    I do like a bit more fun in my Bond, I must admit. It's good, but I feel like it's sort of neither one thing nor the other; it wants to be more dramatic and hard-hitting than it is, and it ends up not quite tickling my Bond bone in the same way that the films either side of it do manage to, plus I feel like Dalton actually gets lost a bit in it. James Bond in a revenge movie should be the coolest thing ever: like Lee Marvin in Point Blank multiplied by Connery in FRWL, but somehow it's just... not.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,940
    mtm wrote: »
    I do like a bit more fun in my Bond, I must admit. It's good, but I feel like it's sort of neither one thing nor the other; it wants to be more dramatic and hard-hitting than it is, and it ends up not quite tickling my Bond bone in the same way that the films either side of it do manage to, plus I feel like Dalton actually gets lost a bit in it. James Bond in a revenge movie should be the coolest thing ever: like Lee Marvin in Point Blank multiplied by Connery in FRWL, but somehow it's just... not.

    I think it's pretty hard, while it can be funny too. The latter not in an obvious way, but I do quite like some of the more subtle bits here and there.

    Having said that, I also love both films that flank it chronologically. I'd even go as far as to say that TLD-LTK-GE is the best three-in-a-row the series has ever seen. The only valid competition I see is the first run of Connery DN-TB.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I like LTK, even with some criticisms. It’s a bit like NTTD in the sense that it’s this formula breaking, end of an era Bond movie. They’re both films you can pinpoint as turning points in Bond.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    mtm wrote: »
    I do like a bit more fun in my Bond, I must admit. It's good, but I feel like it's sort of neither one thing nor the other; it wants to be more dramatic and hard-hitting than it is, and it ends up not quite tickling my Bond bone in the same way that the films either side of it do manage to, plus I feel like Dalton actually gets lost a bit in it. James Bond in a revenge movie should be the coolest thing ever: like Lee Marvin in Point Blank multiplied by Connery in FRWL, but somehow it's just... not.

    I think it's quite dry, even for its time. Lethal Weapon and Die Hard have a fair amount of humor.

    That the movie isn't gritty enough wasn't on my bingo card.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    LTK is similar enough to Thunderball.
    I like the comparison, and there's quite a few moments. Bond and Felix in a coastguard helicopter - Bond dangling from its winch; a character dies by cyanide, both Bond and villain present in the scene; Bond sneaking aboard an enemy's boat via the subpen - which includes a submersible that transports something in secrecy; Q in the field with gadget camera which later gets knocked out of one's hands by the enemy; Bond is a guest at the villain's residence and provided a beverage; a passenger of a vehicle knocks out the driver, the vehicle ending up in the sea; Bond leaves a casino table with the villain's girl. Related: In TB, Bond removes his scuba backpack to escape the frogmen, while in LTK he puts one on to escape.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 16,259
    QBranch wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    LTK is similar enough to Thunderball.
    I like the comparison, and there's quite a few moments. Bond and Felix in a coastguard helicopter - Bond dangling from its winch; a character dies by cyanide, both Bond and villain present in the scene; Bond sneaking aboard an enemy's boat via the subpen - which includes a submersible that transports something in secrecy; Q in the field with gadget camera which later gets knocked out of one's hands by the enemy; Bond is a guest at the villain's residence and provided a beverage; a passenger of a vehicle knocks out the driver, the vehicle ending up in the sea; Bond leaves a casino table with the villain's girl. Related: In TB, Bond removes his scuba backpack to escape the frogmen, while in LTK he puts one on to escape.

    I think the biggest similarity is the love triangle (for lack of a better word) between Bond, Lupe and Sanchez. Lupe I think should have been the main Bond girl, but that's another topic.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Don't see LTK as humourless at all, in fact I think it's more successful in that regard, maybe also because it is used more sparingly, than several other outings.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,475
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think the biggest similarity is the love triangle (for lack of a better word) between Bond, Lupe and Sanchez.
    Yes, it's more a V angle - a triangle suggests that Bond wants to give Sanchez a nice honeymooooon!
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,578
    All Bond movies have humor, even the Craig ones. It's part of the formula. I'm only speaking in relative terms.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 6,410
    QBranch wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think the biggest similarity is the love triangle (for lack of a better word) between Bond, Lupe and Sanchez.
    Yes, it's more a V angle - a triangle suggests that Bond wants to give Sanchez a nice honeymooooon!

    I don’t mind the Bond, Sanchez, and Lupe triangle. For me it’s the Pam, Lupe, and Bond one that gets a bit strange and soap opera-ish.

    I like Pam as a character, but I can very much understand the idea that Lupe could have been the main Bond girl. I’m not sure what Pam actually adds past a certain point (the subplot about stinger missiles is pretty much useless anyway).
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan
    edited 11:37am Posts: 898
    QBranch wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I think the biggest similarity is the love triangle (for lack of a better word) between Bond, Lupe and Sanchez.
    Yes, it's more a V angle - a triangle suggests that Bond wants to give Sanchez a nice honeymooooon!

    I think Sanchez wouldn't mind giving Bond a nice honeymoooooon.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,582
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes it’s a shame, considering Sanchez is perhaps the most passionate bad guy, it would have been good to see him be allowed the full fury at Bond that knowledge of his actions would have given him.
    As you say, the lighter, although it’s a neat moment, is too brief as it’s unclear Sanchez even remembered Felix really.

    What if Sanchez was dyslexic and couldn't actually read what it said before Bond burned him to death... :))
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