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Controversial opinions about Bond films

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    FrankXavier wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    It's either DAF or TMWTGG, yeah. Goodnight is maybe the worst, as the whole climax is kind of brought about and driven by her being inept (being pushed into the boot of Scaramanga's car so easily; she knocks the henchman into the reactor, unwittingly starting the destruction of the island) and the whole final tension set piece of Bond trying to remove the Solex before he's hit by a laser beam is created by her being stupid and bumping a button with her bum. For some reason both her and Tiffany end up in bikinis for the climaxes of their movies..?
    Bond is also incredibly sleazy towards Goodnight earlier in the film, trying to bed her to fill some time as she points out, and then putting her in a cupboard and making her listen to him shagging Andrea. Andrea herself doesn't get much better treatment, basically Scaramanga's sex slave, half-beaten up by Bond and then murdered. Bond even exclaims "Women!!" when he hears Goodnight has been kidnapped. The early 70s weren't good for Bond girls.
    Umm... I'm already dreading my soon rewatch of TMWTGG.

    As to your point @Daltonforyou for me beyond the feminism debate it's just that type of character isn't fun to watch, at least if you're gonna make the character an airhead try to give them *some* redeemable qualities, like that ending scene at the boat it just makes you groan how useless they make Tiffany look. It feels especially pointed in DAF because there seems to be no counterpoint of female competence in this movie. I guess the old lady who was helping smuggle diamonds?

    Like for example Paloma in NTTD was kinda giving Marilyn Monroe character vibes but as a brunette and she still kicked some ass, and stole the show for a lot of people.

    The weird thing is Tiffany starts out in Amsterdam as being shown as quite tough and capable, taking Bond’s fingerprint and all that. She gets dumber as the film goes on which feels really uneven and a bit cheap.

    I was just about to post this! Tiffany is great in Amsterdam, tough, and a bit in Vegas as well, but then the writing just goes off the cliff. Poorly acted and directed.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    The best action set pieces in all of the John Glen era isn’t found in LTK - but in Octopussy. From the pre title sequence - to the palace fight - to the train jumping - and finally the climax on Kamal Kahn’s getaway plane.

    Well I really like those scenes but nothing beats the tanker truck chase in LTK, best action scene of the franchise if you ask me.

    And who was in charge of that? Barbara Broccoli.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    The best action set pieces in all of the John Glen era isn’t found in LTK - but in Octopussy. From the pre title sequence - to the palace fight - to the train jumping - and finally the climax on Kamal Kahn’s getaway plane.

    Well I really like those scenes but nothing beats the tanker truck chase in LTK, best action scene of the franchise if you ask me.

    Why?
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