Does E = mc² or mc³? The Science in Bond Films Thread

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    14 Bond's boat chase, filmed in Panama, provides one of the most hair-raising sequences.

    It was devised by special effects supervisor Chris Corbould, who has been working on the 007 films since he was a 17-year-old trainee on The Spy Who Loved Me.
    'Daniel was at the wheel of the boat most of the time, but when it came to the really dangerous stuff, the insurance company wouldn't let him take the risk,' he says.

    'So we had to find a way of hiding a driver to take over the action, while it looked as if Bond was still at the helm. We had boats going over other boats and explosions demolishing everything around him.
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    Hair-raising sequence: Bond's boat chase was devised by special effects supervisor Chris Corbould, who has been working on the 007 films since The Spy Who Loved Me
    'One of the boats somersaults, which took a long time to get right. We did it with a hidden underwater cable which pulled the front of the boat down at a certain point, forcing it to flip over.'
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  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    That's exactly the question: why did it flip-over in that direction? If it was for the same reason the other boats flipped over (the racing boats) that's because of the bottom of the boat suddenly working as an airofoil (a wing) and as the weight balance is completely off for an aeroplane (then the weight should be in front of the center of gravity) the boats tumble over backwards. However, in QoS, the boat nosedives, so it can't be from a sudden grip of the air on the bottom of the boat. It seems to be implied (as seen in those GIF's) that Bond somehow manages to dump an anchor and hook the grappling hook on the other end on the nose of the boat. sadly, said anchor stays out of sight, leaving us to giess.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    This old chestnut... Said it before several times over the years - the only way the boat could flip like that is if Bond threw that boat's own anchor into the water, which he did not do. And for that anchor's rope to be draped over the bow and remain there so it can nosedive as such. Also, (nitpicking now) it would've taken several more seconds to reach the seafloor and catch on something before flipping.

    Another oddity in that film IMO is in the PTS when that piece of metal juts out the side of the truck's bumper and shish kebabs the Aston's door. To me it always seemed like another case of inventing something that doesn't make sense just to pull off a cool-looking stunt.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It would be nice to see an original script to see exactly what was intended for that sequence. I have to guess it was the anchor-into-the-sea thing, I don't think anything else makes sense.
    Also the PTS, where there was some kind of stunt involving the Aston flipping onto its side in the quarry which was shot but cut out. I don't think that one has ever been solved..?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I've never heard of that one, with the Aston on its side. Just that one of them went over the side and the stuntman nearly died, or something to that effect.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah there's video footage of it:



    My guess is that maybe it's part of him trying to reach the gun? Maybe as the car roof hits the wall, it rights itself and the gun sort of flips up into his hand and he turns and shoots the baddies? That sequence could do with him doing something Bondy and I think that would help, if it was that. It does happen at that final part of the chase when they're passing the tractor; maybe something similar happened with the boat chase where they edited it together and it was too hard to follow with all the shots needed to tell the story.
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