The James Bond Questions Thread

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    I think it's more a case that women being enamored by their stars is treated very differently (and taken less seriously) than the reverse.

    She had the balls to fire Brosnan after his films made a lot of money for her. So she wasn't enamored with all her stars.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 10 Posts: 19,335
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    I think it's more likely Eon would be making Bond 26 (if they let Craig walk after Spectre, and had started up a new Bond film already with a new actor by 2019).

    Maybe. But I don't think Babs ever had a vision of Bond past Daniel Craig. She had this weird attachment to him.

    I don’t get why people think it’s weird that she thought the lead of her films, who she picked, was great; film producers are supposed to do that. Any notions that she was in love with him are projection and a bit sexist, frankly.

    I agree with what you're saying but she gave up the franchise after him. She never had a vision for the series after Craig. So she sold. Cubby had visions for Bond for 30+ years

    And she ran the Bonds for almost the same amount of time (both her and Wilson worked on them much longer- he's been a producer on them since 1984, 41 years ago, far longer than Cubby ever did it), and still retired while she's got plenty of life in her.

    Look, they came up with their ultimate version of Bond, it was a huge global mega hit, and funnily enough when they hit 64 and 82 years old respectively, they didn't fancy starting from day one again yet another 15 year cycle of making blockbuster movies and thought they'd enjoy their millions -or billions, even. So sue them.
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    mtm wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    I think it's more likely Eon would be making Bond 26 (if they let Craig walk after Spectre, and had started up a new Bond film already with a new actor by 2019).

    Maybe. But I don't think Babs ever had a vision of Bond past Daniel Craig. She had this weird attachment to him.

    I don’t get why people think it’s weird that she thought the lead of her films, who she picked, was great; film producers are supposed to do that. Any notions that she was in love with him are projection and a bit sexist, frankly.

    I agree with what you're saying but she gave up the franchise after him. She never had a vision for the series after Craig. So she sold. Cubby had visions for Bond for 30+ years

    And she ran the Bonds for almost the same amount of time (both her and Wilson worked on them much longer- he's been a producer on them since 1984, 41 years ago, far longer than Cubby ever did it), and still retired while she's got plenty of life in her.

    Look, they came up with their ultimate version of Bond, it was a huge global mega hit, and funnily enough when they hit 64 and 82 years old respectively, they didn't fancy starting from day one again yet another 15 year cycle of making blockbuster movies and thought they'd enjoy their millions -or billions, even. So sue them.

    I didn't say there was anything wrong with what they did. I was just pointing out the difference between Cubby and Babs. It was obvious Cubby was only focused on Bond while Babs wanted to do Bond and other projects.
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    It was different for Cubby. He’d had a producing career before Bond, and Bond itself was something he’d built up with Saltzman. Michael and Barbara inherited it and kept the thing going. When they realised they couldn’t continue it within EON (remember, Cubby had both of them to continue) they gave it to those who’d keep on making the films, seemingly got the people they wanted to succeed them in the short term, and still kept their financial share of the franchise.

    If in that position, I suspect Cubby would have done the same thing or would have gotten a much worse deal.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 3:56pm Posts: 19,335
    Well you said she had a 'weird attachment' to Craig, so it didn't seem 100% positive! :D

    Cubby was happy to churn out the same stuff forever and was averse to being too creative with it, rejecting the idea of a younger Bond starting out, which later became such a massive hit for them with CR. He had a vision for Bond in 62, and then more or less stuck to that for 27 years (not 30+) with some gentle meanders in tone along the way; I'm not sure he had more than one, and didn't really have time between instalments for much creation of vision.
    I love those films, they're all great. And the producers have been incredibly strong the whole way through. Maybe they'd make mistakes like not taking care of relationships well enough and holing the boat along the way (Connery, Saltzman) or hiring the wrong directors (Apted, Forster- both very good and interesting but for my money not suited to it) but all four of the main producers have done great jobs and made great movies.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Well you said she had a 'weird attachment' to Craig, so it didn't seem 100% positive! :D

    Maybe I should have used my words more carefully. This is just my personal opinion but I felt that Babs run as Bond producer could have had more films under her belt. I always felt that Brosnan should have gotten a 5th film and that Craig should have had another Bond movie before NTTD.

    I do want to know if Craig had finished up after Spectre. Would Babs have cast another Bond and go on another run with a new actor? or would she have sold sooner?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    There's talk that they started to look at other actors after Spectre, possibly even auditioning them, I don't know.
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