EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Steven Knight to Write)

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 9 Posts: 9,272
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I went to see GoldenEye in cinemas over the weekend and it was a great experience. I hope Amazon take some lessons from that film in particular.

    The main two are dialogue and character. The script in GE is brilliant and the characters are rounded and interesting, they all feel real and lived in

    Natalya is one of my favourite Bond girls of the series, I hope we get a Bond girl like her in Bond 26. Resilient, resourceful and yet still sexy and playful. You can't help but fall in love with Natalya. A wonderfully written character and a great performance by Izabella Scorupco

    GE really was fresh new start for Bond. We need that next time a round too.

    GE came 33 years after DN, and B26 will come 33 years (ish) after GE. And both were the handoff from one creative team to the next. Near perfect symmetry.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited October 9 Posts: 9,779
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I went to see GoldenEye in cinemas over the weekend and it was a great experience. I hope Amazon take some lessons from that film in particular.

    The main two are dialogue and character. The script in GE is brilliant and the characters are rounded and interesting, they all feel real and lived in

    Natalya is one of my favourite Bond girls of the series, I hope we get a Bond girl like her in Bond 26. Resilient, resourceful and yet still sexy and playful. You can't help but fall in love with Natalya. A wonderfully written character and a great performance by Izabella Scorupco

    GE really was fresh new start for Bond. We need that next time a round too.

    GE came 33 years after DN, and B26 will come 33 years (ish) after GE. And both were the handoff from one creative team to the next. Near perfect symmetry.

    Wait, so now the film will be released some time in 2028?!! I thought the producers aren’t stupid and would wait for “x”, and “y”? You seeing into the future is crystallizing @Mendes4Lyfe ?

    But seriously, don’t look for patterns in arbitrary things. The film will be released, and we can all make connections we want to see. But it won’t make the final product good or bad or in between. That rests on the shoulders of the professionals working on this project and their execution. And even then, it’ll have no bearing on any pattern, and everything to do with the subjective tastes of the audiences.
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    GE came 33 years after DN, and B26 will come 33 years (ish) after GE. And both were the handoff from one creative team to the next. Near perfect symmetry.

    It's good to see Goldeneye being mentioned so often with regards to the new JB movie era. I agree that it's just what we need after the Craig era. A film that isn't afraid to celebrate the screen Bond.

    But with better music this time, please.

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 5:30am Posts: 9,272
    peter wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I went to see GoldenEye in cinemas over the weekend and it was a great experience. I hope Amazon take some lessons from that film in particular.

    The main two are dialogue and character. The script in GE is brilliant and the characters are rounded and interesting, they all feel real and lived in

    Natalya is one of my favourite Bond girls of the series, I hope we get a Bond girl like her in Bond 26. Resilient, resourceful and yet still sexy and playful. You can't help but fall in love with Natalya. A wonderfully written character and a great performance by Izabella Scorupco

    GE really was fresh new start for Bond. We need that next time a round too.

    GE came 33 years after DN, and B26 will come 33 years (ish) after GE. And both were the handoff from one creative team to the next. Near perfect symmetry.

    But seriously, don’t look for patterns in arbitrary things. The film will be released, and we can all make connections we want to see. But it won’t make the final product good or bad or in between. That rests on the shoulders of the professionals working on this project and their execution. And even then, it’ll have no bearing on any pattern, and everything to do with the subjective tastes of the audiences.

    Put it this way, this forum moves at a rate of about 5 days worth of discussion per page worth of content, and it's been that way for a long time. Its already been over 4 years since the last film and we don't even have a first draft yet, so in order for everything to fall into place and the film being released in the span of 3 years the rate of progress would have to increase rapidly. We would be getting daily updates, with new rumours and behind the scenes tidbits spilling in every few hours. As it stands even the gossip-mill of the tabloids has dried up and lost interest in creating Bond stories. The Bond community has gone into hibernation, with respected members such as Being James Bond, Dutch Bond fan and Haphazard stuff taking a break from producing videos until there's something to talk about. It doesn't feel like we're ramping up to a massive jackpot of content, every appears to be sleepy, with Knight and producers slowly gathering ideas and waiting for Villeneuve to finish Dune.

    It's possible that they get a film finished by Nov/Dec 2028, but I don't think they will rush to meet that deadline simply because 2029 is "too long" as you stated. It depends on how smooth the casting and post-production goes to determine whether reshoots are needed etc. What you also have to remember is that this film will probably require at least 2 - 3 months of approval time where all the corporate people have their input and deliberate before the finished article is released. Bond 26 is not just a movie, it's flagship of Amazons entertainment strategy for the future, they know everyone will be judging their brand based on how good Bond is, the film will be gone through with a comb until it is spotless, and that takes time.
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    I thought it was coming out to coincide with the Euros ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I thought it was coming out to coincide with the Euros ;)

    Well Skyfall is talked about in fan circles as having benefitted from the Olympics and those didn't coincide either. It's still beneficial even if they literally don't overlap.
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    Perhaps they should wait for the coronation of King William.
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I thought it was coming out to coincide with the Euros ;)

    Well Skyfall is talked about in fan circles as having benefitted from the Olympics and those didn't coincide either. It's still beneficial even if they literally don't overlap.

    Ok. We’ll just have to see when it’s released I suppose.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I don't think they will rush to meet that deadline simply because 2029 is "too long" as you stated.

    @Mendes4Lyfe , I was making a guess, like everyone else. Unlike you, I don’t think my word is Gospel. But my guess of when this film would be released is assuming that casting is coming down the pipeline (since we know a script is being actively written as we speak, the next organic step in the process is AUDITIONING and CASTING; and that doesn’t happen two or three years AFTER a script is complete. It happens pretty much after the script is GREENLIT, which won’t be a lengthy process); and once you have your Bond, and we already have heavy hitting producers and one of the biggest filmmakers attached, well, the reality is, these talents have other things on their slate. Amazon knows this, and, I know in your world, everything must stop, or happen around James Bond, but in the real world, where you have people on the payroll, they can’t wait around. Time is money.

    If casting does happen in the next six months, you better believe that they will be marching into principal photography a few short months later.

    So yes, based on the little bits we know, and knowing a little bit about the film world and schedules, 2029 would be a long wait to announce all kinds of talent like the producers, Villeneuve and potentially a new Bond, and then not have an actual film for another 3 and a half to four years.

    What’s the point in making announcements now with all these juicy pieces of talent, when a film won’t be forthcoming until 2029?

    Villeneuve, et al, have projects lined up for after Bond.

    And Amazon wants their crown jewel out to the world as soon as possible.

    Once the new 007 is announced, principal will shortly follow.

    And I don’t think the new James Bond will be announced in 2027/28 for a 2029 release. The new guy is coming up in a blink with production to begin shortly thereafter.

    I’d be very surprised if filming started 3 years from now with the release four years from now. That’s absurd.

  • edited 8:58am Posts: 7,044
    @Mendes4Lyfe will certainly appreciate your post, @peter, my friend, as I believe his angst comes from fear and of need for reassurance.

    That being said, can you imagine the fun Mr. Knight is having right now? I'm not prone to jealousy, but really, carving up James Bond's future with a brand new script, entirely in your hands, at least in this stage. How fun.

    Oh, and I'm curious, do you happen to have any favorite as to who could take up the proverbial mantle from Craig? I enjoy the guessing game as much as any other, but I can't help being torn between thinking we will be surprised or that one of our many so called candidates will have the job. What do you think?

    Yours and @ColonelSun's takes on the procedure and protocols are always the go-to posts, as far as I'm concerned.

    Cheers
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    peter wrote: »
    I don't think they will rush to meet that deadline simply because 2029 is "too long" as you stated.

    @Mendes4Lyfe , I was making a guess, like everyone else. Unlike you, I don’t think my word is Gospel. But my guess of when this film would be released is assuming that casting is coming down the pipeline (since we know a script is being actively written as we speak, the next organic step in the process is AUDITIONING and CASTING; and that doesn’t happen two or three years AFTER a script is complete. It happens pretty much after the script is GREENLIT, which won’t be a lengthy process); and once you have your Bond, and we already have heavy hitting producers and one of the biggest filmmakers attached, well, the reality is, these talents have other things on their slate. Amazon knows this, and, I know in your world, everything must stop, or happen around James Bond, but in the real world, where you have people on the payroll, they can’t wait around. Time is money.

    If casting does happen in the next six months, you better believe that they will be marching into principal photography a few short months later.

    So yes, based on the little bits we know, and knowing a little bit about the film world and schedules, 2029 would be a long wait to announce all kinds of talent like the producers, Villeneuve and potentially a new Bond, and then not have an actual film for another 3 and a half to four years.

    What’s the point in making announcements now with all these juicy pieces of talent, when a film won’t be forthcoming until 2029?

    Villeneuve, et al, have projects lined up for after Bond.

    And Amazon wants their crown jewel out to the world as soon as possible.

    Once the new 007 is announced, principal will shortly follow.

    And I don’t think the new James Bond will be announced in 2027/28 for a 2029 release. The new guy is coming up in a blink with production to begin shortly thereafter.

    I’d be very surprised if filming started 3 years from now with the release four years from now. That’s absurd.

    I'm not saying that 2028 is impossible, but it's not certain either. You keep saying 4 years away, but 2029 isn't 4 years away, it's a little over 3 years and 2 months away (that's all) and if they can't reach the deadline of December 31st 2028, then the film will have to be pushed back into 2029 whether or not the producers and director have other things to do. We've already spent 4 full years on barely starting a first draft and news or behind the scenes updates have gone so dry even the tabloids have lost interest, usually this is their prime time for speculation and click bait in-between actors. I would love for principle photography to roar into motion in a few months time like you say, but it seems like extreme wishful thinking. This is going to be one of the most important projects for Amazon to get right in it's history as a studio, they don't have a reliable crew like EON had, they're going to have to build from scratch and cast, location scout and cater for a massive production. I don't believe all that comes together in the span of a couple years, especially when Villeneuve is still busy filming another movie and there's no script!

    November/December is still possible but they would need to rely on no more setbacks like Trumps tariffs or scheduling/production troubles getting in the way. Remember, it's only 3 years and 2 months until 2029, we've already waited a lot longer than that to arrive where we are.
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    A 2028 release is very likely. 2027 would be a bit of a rush, but 2028 is already a very wide window.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I dunno Mendes. You read the future better than anyone I know and you’re always correct about everything.

    I’m basing a guess on how films usually work.

    2029 feels an absurdly long ways away after announcing everything they have. I’d say it closer to a 2028 release. DV will complete principal in Dune in about eight weeks. The plan is to cast Bond right after. Time is money.

    But whatever…You’re in the know and you’re brilliant.

    All joking aside this will arrive when it arrives. I for one am looking forward to what these guys do with the talent they’re accumulating.

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    A 2028 release is very likely. 2027 would be a bit of a rush, but 2028 is already a very wide window.

    If 6 months goes by and we aren't yet nearing production then I guess many will begin to change their tune, as they already did from saying that 2027 was "more than enough time".
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    Filming will probably start in early 2027. They've got more than a year. I don't know what the problem is here.

    Maybe the script sucks or they can't find any decent actors, but it's unlikely.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,999
    peter wrote: »
    I dunno Mendes. You read the future better than anyone I know and you’re always correct about everything.

    I’m basing a guess on how films usually work.

    2029 feels an absurdly long ways away after announcing everything they have. I’d say it closer to a 2028 release. DV will complete principal in Dune in about eight weeks. The plan is to cast Bond right after. Time is money.

    But whatever…You’re in the know and you’re brilliant.

    All joking aside this will arrive when it arrives. I for one am looking forward to what these guys do with the talent they’re accumulating.

    Agreed on this.

    I also wanted to add that it's *Bond*, and that when the producers announce things, they will happen. They might not play out the way we expected (see: Danny Boyle) or with the timing of the release as expected but...James Bond will return.

    There are not a lot of things I am certain about in this ever-crazier world, but that is one of them.
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