Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Concerning Austin Butler, his charisma and screen presence completely outshine Bond hopeful Callum Turner for me.
    I find Turners screen presence or lack there of to be a factor for me as why he’s not high on my list for Bond number 7.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Benny wrote: »
    Concerning Austin Butler, his charisma and screen presence completely outshine Bond hopeful Callum Turner for me.
    I find Turners screen presence or lack there of to be a factor for me as why he’s not high on my list for Bond number 7.

    I have to agree with that mate.

    I like Glen Powell too, but I think both him and Butler are too recognisable to be Felix. Jeffrey Wright was a bit more under the radar and perfectly cast in 2006
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I've always said Boyd Holbrook would make a cool Leiter, although he's a bit older now (which I guess could work if they went more a Hendison/Dalton route with a slightly older Felix).

    I can imagine Glenn Powell though, although he wouldn't be my first choice. In the nicest way possible I don't think he'd outshine the lead actor, which I think Butler could do more easily.
    I think Holbrook is a good pick i take him over Butler too. I also think the Hedison/Dalton way worked well so why not do that sort of thing again?

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    I've only watched a five minute clip of Masters of The Air with Butler and Turner. I get the sense they give Butler's character more of that old school coolness by design, while Turner's character is slightly different (Butler seems to get all the close ups in the clips I watched!) I must say, I don't get the sense Butler is out-acting or even necessarily outshining Turner or anything. But maybe I'm not a huge Austin Butler fan... Not sure I'd particularly enjoy the show either if I'm honest.

    Personally, I'd be very interesting in seeing how he auditions for Bond. I don't think he's ever quite played a James Bond sort of character (even in The Capture, which I think he's very good in, there's a sense he's on the backfoot for most of it/not fully in control as Bond would be). I get the sense from interviews he could channel his confidence into a Bond performance, so I really wouldn't be surprised if he gets it.
    MSL49 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I've always said Boyd Holbrook would make a cool Leiter, although he's a bit older now (which I guess could work if they went more a Hendison/Dalton route with a slightly older Felix).

    I can imagine Glenn Powell though, although he wouldn't be my first choice. In the nicest way possible I don't think he'd outshine the lead actor, which I think Butler could do more easily.
    I think Holbrook is a good pick i take him over Butler too. I also think the Hedison/Dalton way worked well so why not do that sort of thing again?

    I think a part of it is because he had a robotic hand in Logan, so I can imagine him playing a version of Leiter who has the fake leg/hand.
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  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Denbigh wrote: »
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    I think he is a screentest material but would not be my first choice.

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    He's definitely put on muscle. He's going for it!!
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Bond shouldnt be a gymrat, Craig pushed the boundaries too much especially in CR.
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Bond shouldnt be a gymrat, Craig pushed the boundaries too much especially in CR.

    Welcome to the 21st century. The next actor is going to hit the gym
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I like Turner, he deserves a screentest no doubt. I do wonder if his high profile relationship with Dua Lipa will hurt his chances? Similar to Hiddleston with Taylor Swift. By the time they're casting will he be "too famous" for being her boyfriend?
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I like Turner, he deserves a screentest no doubt. I do wonder if his high profile relationship with Dua Lipa will hurt his chances? Similar to Hiddleston with Taylor Swift. By the time they're casting will he be "too famous" for being her boyfriend?

    He's managed to stay surprisingly low profile so far. I wonder if that's because they're hopeful he can be Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Bond shouldnt be a gymrat, Craig pushed the boundaries too much especially in CR.

    Welcome to the 21st century. The next actor is going to hit the gym

    That's all we need, a Mr Universe contestant.

    ;)
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    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I like Turner, he deserves a screentest no doubt. I do wonder if his high profile relationship with Dua Lipa will hurt his chances? Similar to Hiddleston with Taylor Swift. By the time they're casting will he be "too famous" for being her boyfriend?

    He's managed to stay surprisingly low profile so far. I wonder if that's because they're hopeful he can be Bond.

    It doesn't look like his career is going anywhere. He's not the kind of quasi-star anyone would hire.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I like Turner, he deserves a screentest no doubt. I do wonder if his high profile relationship with Dua Lipa will hurt his chances? Similar to Hiddleston with Taylor Swift. By the time they're casting will he be "too famous" for being her boyfriend?

    I don’t think Hiddleston dating Swift had anything to do with his chances of becoming Bond though… like, at all. He was already associated with the role of Loki, I suspect he simply wouldn’t have been right anyway, and most importantly there was already an incumbent Bond when he’d have been realistically considered.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    Well, he is "ugly".
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    It wouldn’t surprise me if he got it. He’s actually a bit of a lesser known candidate outside of these forums, but he’s got the good looks, the right physicality, the charisma, and the right level of fame.

    Just depends on how he screen tests (if he does) and whether he has the right approach to the character for the producers. He’s ultimately one of many potentials, and I can also imagine we’ll get someone else. But it wouldn’t surprise me if he got it.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    Well, he is "ugly".

    You are not living in the same reality as the rest of us, then.

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    While I’ve warmed up a bit to the idea of C.Turner as Bond, there are far worse possibilities, I’m not a huge fan of his look; yes I know the role is more than looks.
    I wouldn’t call him “ugly “ , but he’s not what I want to see in Bond.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    Well, he is "ugly".

    You are not living in the same reality as the rest of us, then.

    In this reality people don't like ATJ's voice.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    Well, he is "ugly".

    You are not living in the same reality as the rest of us, then.

    In this reality people don't like ATJ's voice.

    That's not the same.
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    I suppose it all comes back to us having preconceived ideas of Bond’s appearance (and honestly, even that’s quite contradictory from person to person - there are actors I don’t immediately associate as being overly Bondian in terms of appearance or presence). That and its the idea we’ll just have to ‘get used’ to the new actor, whoever they are. I mean, just look at some of the reactions to the First Light Bond - many were a bit taken aback at first/felt the avatar wasn’t quite right for whatever reason. There’s no reason it’s not a valid interpretation of Bond, and it’s rather good design I’d argue. But depending on who you speak to it could be too young, too yuppie-ish, not cruel enough, not enigmatic enough etc. Then of course you get the obligatory face swaps of the trailer with Dalton or Brosnan, which gives many commenting a sense of familiarity.

    It’ll be a similar thing with the new Bond when the new trailer comes out. Most should warm to the new actor by the time they see the film (should be the case at least) but it’s always a bit jarring seeing a face you’re not used to in the role. Ultimately they’ll have been picked because they bring the character to life - yes, their appearance will be a part of that, but as with any actor it’ll be about the full package: how they interpret the character and deliver those lines, their physicality, how they come off onscreen. For what it’s worth Turner’s a good looking guy (it’s subjective, but anyone who’s calling him ‘ugly’ isn’t quite being being honest or at least isn’t impartial for whatever reason 😉. The guy’s a model as well as being an actor, and has been for much of his career. He’s literally gotten jobs because of his looks). I think as he’s gotten a bit older he looks less boyish as well, which is good for this role, and he’s got quite a distinct face which again is great with a classically handsome actor (as I’ve said, I often forget what someone like Leo Suter looks like - very ‘central casting’ looking chap - which I don’t think is very good for the larger than life character that is Bond).
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I like Callum Turner for Bond, because he doesn't have the everyman look. Bond should look unusual and handsome at the the same time. It's what they were able to achieve with the last 6 Bonds...that unique face. I can't think of many people who look like them. But if I'm asked to point out who looks like Tom Cruise, I would say Cristiano Ronaldo.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I suppose it all comes back to us having preconceived ideas of Bond’s appearance (and honestly, even that’s quite contradictory from person to person - there are actors I don’t immediately associate as being overly Bondian in terms of appearance or presence). That and its the idea we’ll just have to ‘get used’ to the new actor, whoever they are. I mean, just look at some of the reactions to the First Light Bond - many were a bit taken aback at first/felt the avatar wasn’t quite right for whatever reason. There’s no reason it’s not a valid interpretation of Bond, and it’s rather good design I’d argue. But depending on who you speak to it could be too young, too yuppie-ish, not cruel enough, not enigmatic enough etc. Then of course you get the obligatory face swaps of the trailer with Dalton or Brosnan, which gives many commenting a sense of familiarity.

    It’ll be a similar thing with the new Bond when the new trailer comes out. Most should warm to the new actor by the time they see the film (should be the case at least) but it’s always a bit jarring seeing a face you’re not used to in the role. Ultimately they’ll have been picked because they bring the character to life - yes, their appearance will be a part of that, but as with any actor it’ll be about the full package: how they interpret the character and deliver those lines, their physicality, how they come off onscreen. For what it’s worth Turner’s a good looking guy (it’s subjective, but anyone who’s calling him ‘ugly’ isn’t quite being being honest or at least isn’t impartial for whatever reason 😉. The guy’s a model as well as being an actor, and has been for much of his career. He’s literally gotten jobs because of his looks). I think as he’s gotten a bit older he looks less boyish as well, which is good for this role, and he’s got quite a distinct face which again is great with a classically handsome actor (as I’ve said, I often forget what someone like Leo Suter looks like - very ‘central casting’ looking chap - which I don’t think is very good for the larger than life character that is Bond).
    Suter is another interesting name for me.
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    Agreed. I think with Bond it’s ideal they have that certain ‘something’ about their appearance. Connery and Craig had their weathered ruggedness and even imperfections (the duck’s mouth/nose, the bushy eyebrows, slightly big ears and nose etc). I think there’s something magnetic about Dalton in his films when they lean into the idea that he’s on edge/a bit more haggard looking in LTK. Even Brosnan and Moore had these odd quirks to their expressions which saved them from being generic, and both could come off as quite cruel. I think having an actor who looks too ‘perfect’ or generic looking creates this strange disconnect between what they’re doing as Bond. You need to believe that Bond can throw a punch and take hits. Yes, he needs to be good looking, but a lot of the ‘women’s heads turning as he enters a casino’ moments are very tongue in cheek anyway and have that layer of irony to them (no man, no matter how good looking, will have the effect on women Bond does). So I think it’s better that they be striking looking in that context.
    MSL49 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I suppose it all comes back to us having preconceived ideas of Bond’s appearance (and honestly, even that’s quite contradictory from person to person - there are actors I don’t immediately associate as being overly Bondian in terms of appearance or presence). That and its the idea we’ll just have to ‘get used’ to the new actor, whoever they are. I mean, just look at some of the reactions to the First Light Bond - many were a bit taken aback at first/felt the avatar wasn’t quite right for whatever reason. There’s no reason it’s not a valid interpretation of Bond, and it’s rather good design I’d argue. But depending on who you speak to it could be too young, too yuppie-ish, not cruel enough, not enigmatic enough etc. Then of course you get the obligatory face swaps of the trailer with Dalton or Brosnan, which gives many commenting a sense of familiarity.

    It’ll be a similar thing with the new Bond when the new trailer comes out. Most should warm to the new actor by the time they see the film (should be the case at least) but it’s always a bit jarring seeing a face you’re not used to in the role. Ultimately they’ll have been picked because they bring the character to life - yes, their appearance will be a part of that, but as with any actor it’ll be about the full package: how they interpret the character and deliver those lines, their physicality, how they come off onscreen. For what it’s worth Turner’s a good looking guy (it’s subjective, but anyone who’s calling him ‘ugly’ isn’t quite being being honest or at least isn’t impartial for whatever reason 😉. The guy’s a model as well as being an actor, and has been for much of his career. He’s literally gotten jobs because of his looks). I think as he’s gotten a bit older he looks less boyish as well, which is good for this role, and he’s got quite a distinct face which again is great with a classically handsome actor (as I’ve said, I often forget what someone like Leo Suter looks like - very ‘central casting’ looking chap - which I don’t think is very good for the larger than life character that is Bond).
    Suter is another interesting name for me.

    Hmm, I’m very conflicted about him honestly. Like I said, even after watching him in certain things I’ve completely forgotten what he looks like, and I’d be hard pressed to do so now off the top of my head. His actual performances have been fine, although a bit shallow at times and sometimes a wee bit lightweight. He is a good actor though. He seems quite charming and suave in this new BritBox show, but I’d need to watch it. I think it’s often the case where actors on those sorts of shows don’t quite have the screen presence to carry major films (Aidan Turner is another one who had that problem).

    He could potentially be good and a surprise pick though. I don’t think he’s been in anything where he’s really had the chance to branch out or put in his best, and that’s the case with many younger actors at the stage of his career. I’m not quite seeing it at the moment, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong if he is the next Bond.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    Well, he is "ugly".

    You are not living in the same reality as the rest of us, then.

    In this reality people don't like ATJ's voice.

    That's not the same.

    It's the same thing, but we can pretend it isn't, if you want.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I'm really looking forward to seeing how Leo Suter does in the upcoming " Lynley " series; I think it will be an ideal project to gauge his potential
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    @007HallY good point to be fair mate

    I think Callum Turner is the closest thing we have to a safe pair of hands. I think every member on this board would have him in their top 5 to screentest. While he's not the one I'd pick, if he was selected I'd be more than fine with it

    Well, he is "ugly".

    You are not living in the same reality as the rest of us, then.

    In this reality people don't like ATJ's voice.

    Yes, and?
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I'm really looking forward to seeing how Leo Suter does in the upcoming " Lynley " series; I think it will be an ideal project to gauge his potential

    I'm looking forward to that too mate. It's out a week today isn't?
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