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  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Univex wrote: »
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    I'm watching Oppenheimer at the moment. I think maybe Matthias Schweighöfer could make a good Bond villain, he's got an interesting face. My only reservations: another Germanic actor as a villain might be a cliche and on principle I'd rather have more brutish, physically imposing villains.

    He’d be very interesting, yes. Good call.
    How about Adrien Brody? Wouldn’t that be something?

    I always thought Brody had too nice a face. But I guess his profile is closer to what they have been casting for the later part of the Craig era. Personally, I'd rather have lesser known actors, but maybe this ship has sailed now.

    He was scary as hell in Peaky Blinders ;)

    Haven't seen Peaky Blinders.

    There's a lot of fairly unknown veteran actors in Oppenheimer who I think could make very capable Bond villains. Jefferson Hall for instance. As Chevalier, he looked a bit like the novel's Hugo Drax. He just needed a shorter haircut and a burnt scar.

    You should be a casting agent. Well done ;)

    As for Brody, take a look a this little gem of a scene



    Or this one


    Thanks, will watch them ASAP. I'm sure Brody is capable of playing a villain.

    Watching Oppenheimer, I think about half the cast could make a great villain. I would prefer a fairly unknown veteran, but if they use the same approach as the later half of the Craig era, Cillian Murphy has the most chances of being cast: he's a renowned veteran actor, he's won an Oscar, he's the right age, etc. He wouldn't be my first choice, for the reasons stated before (too famous now, plus I'd rather see a more imposing villain), but I would not be surprised to see him cast.
  • renno61renno61
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    Alan Ritchson
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Stanley Tucci. When Blofeld returns he would be a great choice.
    It's a pity he didn't do it in Spectre instead of the awful portrayal we did get. Just my opinion of course.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    Stanley Tucci. When Blofeld returns he would be a great choice.
    It's a pity he didn't do it in Spectre instead of the awful portrayal we did get. Just my opinion of course.

    Tucci is okay, but I don't see anything that would make him a great Blofeld.

    Side note: why do so many people mention bald actors as potential Blofeld?
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Good question. I don't necessarily look at baldness as a first criteria, after all that can be dealt with, Nicholas Hoult in Superman.
    But if there is an actor I like and just happens to be bald it allows me to make an easy leap.
    Mark Srong would be another one I could see as Blofeld.
    As for a Blofeld with hair, I just prefer the bald look. It doesn't help that I thought the 2 official Blofelds we have had with hair were rubbish.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    In FRWL and TB he has hair. He has hair in the novels. And it's very debatable whether or not Waltz was rubbish, it's certainly not consensus. Be that as it may, it's not Blofeld haircut or baldness that define the character. Or that determines whether or not the character is well interpreted.
  • MalloryMallory
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    In terms of Blofeld, I always thought Werner Herzog would've been great, especially after his villainous performance in Jack Reacher:

    Jack-Reacher-2012-008.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none&crop=none
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Mark Strong could have been a brilliant villain. He's a brilliant actor, with a great presence and powerful voice. Perhaps him being in the Kingsmen series didn't help
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    Stanley Tucci. When Blofeld returns he would be a great choice.
    It's a pity he didn't do it in Spectre instead of the awful portrayal we did get. Just my opinion of course.
    Agreed Tucci is a good pick.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited August 19 Posts: 3,335
    Mallory wrote: »
    In terms of Blofeld, I always thought Werner Herzog would've been great, especially after his villainous performance in Jack Reacher
    Herzog would, indeed, have made an excellent Blofeld. Radiating cold menace and a definite 'otherness.' You'd believe you were in the hands of someone who was capable of anything. So much so that, if written by someone like Paul Haggis, I could even see the potential for Herzog to have been the definitive screen Blofeld.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Mallory wrote: »
    In terms of Blofeld, I always thought Werner Herzog would've been great, especially after his villainous performance in Jack Reacher:

    Jack-Reacher-2012-008.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none&crop=none

    He's too old now, I think. A few years ago I would have said Ciaran Hinds or Brendan Gleeson.
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Mark Strong could have been a brilliant villain. He's a brilliant actor, with a great presence and powerful voice. Perhaps him being in the Kingsmen series didn't help

    He's a personal friend of Daniel Craig. I'm a tad surprised they don't seem to have thought of him. For Denbigh perhaps? I must confess, I never liked Andrew Scott in anything.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    He's a personal friend of Daniel Craig. I'm a tad surprised they don't seem to have thought of him. For Denbigh perhaps? I must confess, I never liked Andrew Scott in anything.

    I believe Strong auditioned for the role of Renard in TWINE, but he messed up his audition because he went out drinking the night before, with Daniel of all people
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    He's a personal friend of Daniel Craig. I'm a tad surprised they don't seem to have thought of him. For Denbigh perhaps? I must confess, I never liked Andrew Scott in anything.

    I believe Strong auditioned for the role of Renard in TWINE, but he messed up his audition because he went out drinking the night before, with Daniel of all people

    I love Carlyle as an actor, I think he was suitably creepy as Renard, but Strong would have been physically more believable.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    He's a personal friend of Daniel Craig. I'm a tad surprised they don't seem to have thought of him. For Denbigh perhaps? I must confess, I never liked Andrew Scott in anything.

    I believe Strong auditioned for the role of Renard in TWINE, but he messed up his audition because he went out drinking the night before, with Daniel of all people

    I love Carlyle as an actor, I think he was suitably creepy as Renard, but Strong would have been physically more believable.

    At the end, they seem to have forgotten that Renard could not feel pain.
  • SeanoSeano Minnesota. No, it's not always cold.
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    talos7 wrote: »
    At the end, they seem to have forgotten that Renard could not feel pain.

    Yeah, it could have been so much more fun if they had leaned into Renard's condition instead of making him so morose.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    TWINE was yesterday on finnish tv, i watched and loved it.
  • josiahjosiah
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    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited August 22 Posts: 16,032
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.
    He is underrated actor better than many actors out there.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.
    He is underrated actor better than many actors out there.

    I could picture him as Renard or, in AVTAK, as Zorin, against Timothy Dalton.

    But another reservation I have about him is that he often chooses a role not for the quality of the script but for the salary. I know he'd give his all either way, but I would rather him be in a solid project in which he believes than say Star Trek Generations.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.

    I could see him being a great Elliot Carver.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.

    I could see him being a great Elliot Carver.

    Probably, but I liked Jonathan Pryce too much as Carver. One of the things that I love about the film.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.

    I could see him being a great Elliot Carver.

    Probably, but I liked Jonathan Pryce too much as Carver. One of the things that I love about the film.
    Agreed Pryce was exellent Carver.
  • TroyTroy
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    cwl007 wrote: »
    Stanley Tucci. When Blofeld returns he would be a great choice.
    It's a pity he didn't do it in Spectre instead of the awful portrayal we did get. Just my opinion of course.

    Tucci is okay, but I don't see anything that would make him a great Blofeld.

    Side note: why do so many people mention bald actors as potential Blofeld?

    If we are going the bald route, why not one of the Mitchell brothers? Either would do, or maybe both? :)
  • TroyTroy
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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.

    I could see him being a great Elliot Carver.

    Probably, but I liked Jonathan Pryce too much as Carver. One of the things that I love about the film.
    Agreed Pryce was exellent Carver.

    Yes, don't get me wrong. I really like Jonathan Pryce as Carver as well. I'm just saying that Malcolm McDowell (as well as original choice Sir Anthony Hopkins) could have done a great job as Elliot Carver as well.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited 9:34pm Posts: 16,032
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    josiah wrote: »
    Malcolm McDowell would make a great dangerous idealist or opportunist and with the right henchmen and connections his character could be a physical threat to Bond as well.

    I love Malcolm McDowell, but he's too old now. Around the Brosnan era, he would have been great.

    I could see him being a great Elliot Carver.

    Probably, but I liked Jonathan Pryce too much as Carver. One of the things that I love about the film.
    Agreed Pryce was exellent Carver.

    Yes, don't get me wrong. I really like Jonathan Pryce as Carver as well. I'm just saying that Malcolm McDowell (as well as original choice Sir Anthony Hopkins) could have done a great job as Elliot Carver as well.

    Funny I see McDowell more as Renard, or Zorin, or a more mentor Trevelyan.

    Oh and since we spoke of bald actors, he's getting on in years, but James Hyndman could make a great villain (although please, please, PLEASE, not Blofeld): https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0405247/
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