Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    With Villeneuve I could believe that someone like Josh O’Connor is more in the running.
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    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.
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    M_Blaise wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    He's a little older. There are still a couple of years until the film is made.

    But Craig was too old too, so who knows?

    Craig too old? He was the youngest since Lazenby! Younger than Brosnan or Dalton when cast in the role.

    He was too old for Casino Royale's Bond. Did he get his license to kill at 37?

    That movie was written for someone younger.

    37 sounds extremely reasonable considering the amount of skill and knowledge needed to be a double O.

    I don't think so, you would already be physically in decline at that age.

    So no point in having any double O's over 37, gotcha. Guess you must think most Bond films are just too unbelievable then.


    I didn't say that, but 37 to start the 00 business...

    It's pretty late.

    Yes, it's a fantasy and anyway someone who drinks and eats like Bond would look like Connery in DAF and not really a super agent.
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    40 is peak Bond. 50 is peak Wick. Could even give him a 00 number
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.

    That's why I say maybe (and that's a big maybe) Linley will be Suter's Remington Steele: not something groundbreaking that will make him famous, but a series that will give him some level of exposure, a modest fanbase and a stepping stone for bigger things.

    Regarding television, I don't think it's seen as a lesser medium compared to cinema, as it used to. A lot of actors go from one to the other seamlessly now. Cate Blanchett, Nicole Kidman, Martin Sheen, all went for acclaimed small screen roles.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.

    That's why I say maybe (and that's a big maybe) Linley will be Suter's Remington Steele: not something groundbreaking that will make him famous, but a series that will give him some level of exposure, a modest fanbase and a stepping stone for bigger things.

    Regarding television, I don't think it's seen as a lesser medium compared to cinema, as it used to. A lot of actors go from one to the other seamlessly now. Cate Blanchett, Nicole Kidman, Martin Sheen, all went for acclaimed small screen roles.

    Yeah, perhaps. I’d need to see it myself. He seems quite suave in the trailer I guess, but I don’t have much to go on apart from that.

    I wouldn’t say TV’s a lesser medium, but I think there’s a difference between a BritBox murder mystery and a higher budget series. I don’t think Suter has quite had that level of exposure/a role that high end yet.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Not buying the Leo Suter bloke, that trailer had him oozing cringe and trying way too hard to be suave. It felt more like a parody of Bond than a screentest. Also, let’s not forget Denis Villeneuve is directing. This is his next lead, I can't imagine him wanting to hire the next BritBox sensation. I doubt “star of the new cozy murder mystery” is topping his casting wishlist.

    Meanwhile, Jacob Elordi continues to feel like the guy. I haven't even watched The Narrow Road to the Deep North properly yet (just caught a few scenes on Sunday) but he looked emotionally wrecked and fully committed in every frame. This is a screencap from the show, but honestly, if you told me it was a still from Bond 26, I'd nod, believe you, and be very excited.

    He feels like a Villeneuve and Amazon choice. We all know it. Convince me he’s not the one.

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    I think saying an actor is "oozing cringe" while pushing for an Australian, who is only capable of one facial expression, is a bit ironic
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Elordi is a block of wood, no thanks.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 31 Posts: 18,660
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.

    I'll be interested to see how he handles Lynley and will give it a go. But like you, I struggle to see him as a big movie star, and more than that: I just can't see him as the lead in a Denis Villeneuve film.
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    Lynley looks entertaining enough going by that trailer, so I'll make sure to check it out. What car do we see Suter driving in that trailer?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 31 Posts: 18,660
    He's got a Jensen Interceptor. Which is the same model the previous screen version of Inspector Lynley drove so I don't know if it's mentioned in the books or something. Although I think he then drove a Bristol in later series so maybe the Jensen in this one is just a nod to the old series.
    One of the continuation novelists gave Bond an Interceptor: I think it was William Boyd in Solo?
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited July 31 Posts: 864
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.

    I'll be interested to see how he handles Lynley and will give it a go. But like you, I struggle to see him as a big movie star, and more than that: I just can't see him as the lead in a Denis Villeneuve film.

    Can you name me a thirty-something actor who is a "big movie star" that is also a possible Bond contender? No snark, but a serious question. I wouldn't put Elordi OR ATJ in that category. I would say Holland and Chalamet fit that bill but I don't think they're right for Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.

    I'll be interested to see how he handles Lynley and will give it a go. But like you, I struggle to see him as a big movie star, and more than that: I just can't see him as the lead in a Denis Villeneuve film.

    Can you name me a thirty-something actor who is a "big movie star" that is also a possible Bond contender? No snark, but a serious question. I wouldn't put Elordi OR ATJ in that category. I would say Holland and Chalamet fit that bill but I don't think they're right for Bond.

    I wouldn't and didn't say they have to be a big movie star, but more like a serious movie actor who could stand alongside the sort of quality of those in films like Dune or Arrival. Could I imagine Harris Dickinson or Josh O'Connor being cast in big roles in Dune 3 or 4? Yes I could. Suter I just feel is harder to see in that company, although I'm not saying it could never happen.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited July 31 Posts: 6,890
    mtm wrote: »
    With Villeneuve I could believe that someone like Josh O’Connor is more in the running.

    Or Harris Dickinson (my gut says he's the frontrunner). Or Paul Mescal.

    I still maintain these are the likely three, with possibly Elordi thrown in there (although he feels more Moore/Brosnan and Villeneuve/Knight are *much* more Dalton/Craig).

    Villeneuve is on record saying CR and SF are his two favorites, so that's the tone we will likely get. A bit brooding, a bit dark. Amazon didn't hire Villeneuve and Knight for a light romp.

    In an alternate, and better, universe we would definitely be getting Helen McCrory as M now. I know I go on about her from time to time, but she stole the show in Peaky Blinders. Not easy to do with Cillian Murphy around.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited July 31 Posts: 18,660
    echo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    With Villeneuve I could believe that someone like Josh O’Connor is more in the running.

    Or Harris Dickinson (my gut says he's the frontrunner). Or Paul Mescal.

    I still maintain these are the likely three, with possibly Elordi thrown in there (although he feels more Moore/Brosnan and Villeneuve/Knight are *much* more Dalton/Craig).

    Yeah agreed. I'm not keen on Elordi but he probably just about scrapes into the category of actors I could maybe see in a Villeneuve/Knight movie, however yeah: Mescal, Dickinson or O'Connor feel more in the right ballpark. Callum Turner too.
    At this point I'd be surprised if the actor picked doesn't have that same whiff of quality about them like the director and writer, I don't think it's likely to be the guy who's playing the lead in the Beeb's new Sunday night detective show. Let's face it, Villeneuve's name will be enough to turn a lot of very impressive actors' heads.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I'm not convinced guys like Mescal and Dickinson are great actors so much as they get big projects thrown their way, If Leo Suter was in Gladiator 2 he might get talked about in the same way.
  • Suter reeks of bland fan-casting. Bond 26 is shaping up to be something on par with Skyfall, production wise. I already have more faith in the new team behind it than EON; I don't think they'll cast a journeyman choice of lead actor. Dickinson seems very likely, although his Mendes commitments cast a little doubt. Gone are the days of wishing an Adrian Paul type actor would be cast. Amazon are clearly on the path of high quality cinema.
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    It’ll be this fella

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I would not be surprised, and would not be uncomfortable with the selection…
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I would not be surprised, and would not be uncomfortable with the selection…
    Me neither :)
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    And if C. Turner is selected I shall raise a glass to @Denbigh ; he will be proven a visionary…
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    talos7 wrote: »
    And if C. Turner is selected I shall raise a glass to @Denbigh ; he will be proven a visionary…
    Indeed 😁🤞
  • edited July 31 Posts: 5,658
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I can definitely understand perhaps they'd be looking more for higher profile actors (not A-Listers but those who have been more in films/higher profile stuff and have some level of recognition). Suter's CV is a wee bit thin if I'm honest, and I can understand maybe a television actor might not have the same level of experience (both in terms of performance and handling the levels of fame this role brings). And it may well be the case his charisma doesn't quite translate onto the big screen (it's happened before - for every Brosnan or Moore you get an Aidan Turner). But honestly, I think the rule of thumb is always go for the best option. And ultimately none of us know how an individual will handle fame.

    I'll be interested to see how he handles Lynley and will give it a go. But like you, I struggle to see him as a big movie star, and more than that: I just can't see him as the lead in a Denis Villeneuve film.

    Yeah, it’s a bit tricky for me too. I’ve seen him in bits and pieces and he’s been fine - good even. But I’ve always come away not actually remembering what he looked like. He’s a bit generic in that way. I’m not sure if I quite see him as the next Moore or Brosnan, but you never know. I don’t know if he’d necessarily bring anything unique to Bond.

    It could be a make or break thing though: maybe he’s called in to audition as a long shot and nails it. Maybe with the right circumstances they’d settle for him. If that’s the case fair play. We obviously don’t know which actors will be auditioning for this role, and in theory it could be anyone - even the guy playing Langley on the Beep.

    Anyway, I’m a fan of Turner as well and can see him being potentially very good.
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    He’s got this old world look , very flemingesque. Good, deep voice, charisma, screen presence, curriculum, right age, decent thespian. And I can definitely imagine him in a Villeneuve/Knight film.

    Guessing aside. It’s the next step isn’t it? Finding the actor, announcing it. When do we think Knight will have a first version of a script, so they can start their search? End of the year? Spring 2026? Next Summer? Oh, look, right back at the guessing game 😁
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I'm not convinced guys like Mescal and Dickinson are great actors so much as they get big projects thrown their way, If Leo Suter was in Gladiator 2 he might get talked about in the same way.

    Have you seen Aftersun or Babygirl? Or are you just speculating?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I had this dream I was hanging out with Callum Turner and a couple other guys, and when he walked off I asked him if he's ready to be Bond, James Bond. He just smirked like he knew something we didn't.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    How much will who the writer sees as Bond influence the casting?

    As the story, which probably already exists in some form , develops, the essence of the character will emerge. This will no doubt effect the casting of the next 007.
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