The James Bond Questions Thread

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    thedove wrote: »
    As a service provider I have been called Buddy and Chief. I am not a fan of the use of Chief. Almost detest it as much as Bond hates being called "Old Man".
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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I watched the first half of OHMSS yesterday and I was wondering, where does Tracy get the money to repay Bond? Did she just say she didn't have it for kicks?
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I watched the first half of OHMSS yesterday and I was wondering, where does Tracy get the money to repay Bond? Did she just say she didn't have it for kicks?

    Probably went and did the croupier
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I watched the first half of OHMSS yesterday and I was wondering, where does Tracy get the money to repay Bond? Did she just say she didn't have it for kicks?

    Probably went and did the croupier

    Sorry mate, that kind of reply is not what I came here for.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I watched the first half of OHMSS yesterday and I was wondering, where does Tracy get the money to repay Bond? Did she just say she didn't have it for kicks?

    Her father.
  • edited June 16 Posts: 2,307
    My assumption was that when she said "I always pay my debts" - she was referring to sleeping with Bond.

    Draco (via his goons) was probably aware of what Bond did to get her out of trouble with the casino (he is aware they slept together as Bond references it), so arranged for the money to be in the bedside cabinet (again I am assuming Tracey left early and the goons snuck in to place the money). That way Bond would leave normally after cashing the chips, and they could intercept him. Also it would make Bond more amenable during his chat with Draco.

    Tracey may not even be aware Draco paid the money back to Bond, but Draco, being a man of some honour - wanted the debts settled before meeting Bond.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    I watched the first half of OHMSS yesterday and I was wondering, where does Tracy get the money to repay Bond? Did she just say she didn't have it for kicks?

    Her father.
    Mallory wrote: »
    My assumption was that when she said "I always pay my debts" - she was referring to sleeping with Bond.

    Draco (via his goons) was probably aware of what Bond did to get her out of trouble with the casino (he is aware they slept together as Bond references it), so arranged for the money to be in the bedside cabinet (again I am assuming Tracey left early and the goons snuck in to place the money). That way Bond would leave normally after cashing the chips, and they could intercept him. Also it would make Bond more amenable during his chat with Draco.

    Tracey may not even be aware Draco paid the money back to Bond, but Draco, being a man of some honour - wanted the debts settled before meeting Bond.

    Aha indeed, thanks guys!
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Michael Gillette have done Fleming and John Gardner, does anyone know when he would do the Raymond Benson ones, I love his artwork, especially on the Gardner ones.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Calvin raised an interesting question recently, now that the EON era is over and we are fans of the James Bond film series and not just EON, should Casino Royale and NSNA be considered "official"? So should Bond 26 really be considered Bond 28 now? :-?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Calvin raised an interesting question recently, now that the EON era is over and we are fans of the James Bond film series and not just EON, should Casino Royale and NSNA be considered "official"? So should Bond 26 really be considered Bond 28 now? :-?

    I fail to see why NSNA and CR67 should be retrospectively included in the list. NSNA was a direct competitor and a clear attempt to undermine EON. CR67 resembled more of a Matt Helm or Derek Flint film than something authentically Bondian. However, the Amazon deal has been sanctioned by EON and promises a genuine continuation of their legacy. The upcoming film is poised to neither compete nor, hopefully, parody the franchise. Designating it as the 26th installment seems logical. Nevertheless, how individuals choose to tally these entries remains entirely their prerogative, of course.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Aside from being a 00 agent, or even a Senior Agent (in the books, it's stated, if my memory serves, that they are Three), but other than those, what other position does Bond holds in MI6?

    Upon watching several films, I've realized how special Bond is within the department, he's been in private meetings with M, sometimes with the head of Ministry of Defence or other higher ranked officials, while yes, I know some of it is a mission briefing, but for example in 'A View To A Kill', Bond is watching the Ascot horserace with M, Moneypenny, and Q (haven't seen any other 00 agents being treated the same as the MI6 does with Bond).
    Even in TWINE, M could've assigned the case with Robert King to other 00 agents (I mean that mission about retrieving the money), but it's looked like it was Bond who's the most special one to hold such higher ranked cases, just observed.

    But you can all correct me if I'm wrong or clarify some things for me, thank you. 😊
  • Bond is the most senior of the 00s and probably significantly outperformed the life expectancy of many other 00s in the building. This long standing would allow him to be good friends with M, Q, and Moneypenny. M also probably trusts him the most for that very reason of his longstanding contribution. Going to the Ascot is result of these long-held bonds.

    The TWINE case didn't require too much expertise, and in the novelisation Bond requests it to avenge the death of another 00. The whole deal was to get the money back, and Bond tacked on the whole buyer part of his own initiative.

    In reality, I doubt that the actual Minister of Defence would actually get involved that often. It probably makes more sense that the "Minister" was actually some high level civil servant like the Permanent Secretary or something. That would explain why he exists in both Labour and Conservative governments. But he would be called in for any important defence or security measure, so I don't think there's any preference there. We just don't see him in the office when Bond isn't involved.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    We see a slight change in tone with regards to Bond in Mi6 with Thunderball. When he unloads the highly unbelievably story about Derval M is quick to defend him with the head of Station C. Then later when the Home Secretary starts blustering M does not waver. By the time we get to OHMSS M has a fatherly like figure when he waxes on about vanity with Bond.

    By the time of the Moore films I think the Minister was added to help spread out the exposition or to show how important the mission was. Most politicians would not want to see the sausage made in order to have plausible deniability if things go south.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
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    In the soundtrack album of Diamonds Are Forever, why did they cut the opening bars of the title song, which are heard in the film itself?
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    In the soundtrack album of Diamonds Are Forever, why did they cut the opening bars of the title song, which are heard in the film itself?

    I'll need to rewatch the film (argh!), or at least that bit. My bet: because sloppy editing.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
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    To be more specific, I mean why the intro of the song, heard in the film (4:38 in this video)...

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    ...wasn't included in the original soundtrack album release...

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    ...which featured the track in this edited version (it's not the same album, but the same edit):



    ...with the intro being restored only for the expanded 2003 release of the soundtrack...

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    ...where it sounds like this (once again, this is just a custom YouTube album, but the track is taken from the 2003 album):

  • edited July 18 Posts: 892
    Dr No novel, chap 6 :

    "On either side of the blunt head [of the centipede] there had been curved poison claws. The label on the bottle [with a dead centipede inside, that he saw in a mesueum earlier] had said that its poison was mortal if it hit an artery. Bond had looked curiously at the corkscrew of dead cuticle and had moved on".

    Waht does that even mean ?
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    Dr No novel, chap 6 :

    "On either side of the blunt head [of the centipede] there had been curved poison claws. The label on the bottle [with a dead centipede inside, that he saw in a mesueum earlier] had said that its poison was mortal if it hit an artery. Bond had looked curiously at the corkscrew of dead cuticle and had moved on".

    Waht does that even mean ?

    It’s guess Fleming’s just describing the texture (so like that of dead cuticle) and shape (corkscrew-like) of the centipede.
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    I... didn't think of it. Thank you so much!
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    @mattjoes I always missed that little musical prelude too. I think it adds an extra pinch of magic to what I consider the greatest Bond title song of all. But I can easily imagine someone deciding it's surplus to requirements, maybe a little repetitive. Better to cut to the chase, perhaps?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I guess it's a bit like how the new OHMSS has the film version of the title track which runs longer to the end of the track than the soundtrack version: it's needed in the film but you can see how the album version didn't need those extra bars.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Joe Don baker
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    Yeah, that makes sense. The brass attack at the beginning is a bit more about the surprise of the cat than about the song and the title sequence themselves.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    I've been thinking about this for a very long time now, what is James Bond's real accent?
    Because he's Swiss Scottish, he had probably spent some of his childhood days in Switzerland, so probably he had some thick Swiss Accent, but, he was also Scottish, since he had also spent some time in Scotland as well, so probably he had acquired some Scottish accent, this is also possible because of his parents, his father must have had a thick Scottish Accent and his mother had a thick Swiss Accent.
    Then Bond studied in Eton College, which from what I've learned also have their own accent called 'Etonian Accent'.

    I'm having a hard time hearing in my mind of Bond's actual accent, but for sure the way he speaks in the movies is not the same as how he would actually talk, probably a bit more polished English with some thick Swiss English/Scottish English accents thrown in?

    Need help, thanks for those who will answer. 😊
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Double post
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It's a good question. I guess Bond wouldn't necessarily have picked up a Scottish accent (King Charles went to school in Scotland also but didn't pick up much of the accent!), also people don't necessarily seem to pick up their parents' accents that I've noticed. But you're right that he spent lots of time overseas as a child and you'd think that could affect it, I guess it depends whether his tutors were English or not, which I'd kind of assume they were given the time and his parents' position. In the early 20th century I think a lot of British people were born and raised in various parts of the empire like India etc. and seemed to keep very plummy accents; it's kind of hard to say. But then Fleming described him as looking a bit un-English, maybe that included the way he spoke too.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Thanks @mtm that's interesting.

    Because given his heritage and his childhood life where he have been always in overseas, I think it could affect the way he speak, that for me, very different from the films, or at least, from how we expect him to talk, not even with a standard British accent.
    That's why when I'm reading the books, although I could almost hear his voice, but still blurry because I'm having a hard time about how he speak, if he's Swiss Scottish person and spent most of his childhood days abroad, then probably, it's not a typical British accent we're always hearing or expecting from Bond.

    I think his accent is a bit thick, like Swiss English or something? What could possibly be his accent?

    Thank you @mtm
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