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A View to a Kill. Let's make it better!

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  • TracyTracy
    Posts: 1,762
    Perhaps Bowie would make him even more bizarre/more creepy
    Still Im glad they went with Chris
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited July 11 Posts: 5,583
    Tracy wrote: »
    Perhaps Bowie would make him even more bizarre/more creepy
    Still Im glad they went with Chris

    Maybe. I think there's something about Walken that's more physically intimidating. But I suppose for most of the film May Day fulfils that role, and to be fair Bowie was quite a physical actor. Both are great choices of actor though, and both really give off that sense of unpredictability Zorin needs.

    From what I understand Bowie didn't much like Bond films, and that was a major reason he turned down this one. Bit of a shame. Would have loved to have seen him play a villain even a bit later (supposedly before he died he was going to play the villain in Denis Villeneuve's Blade Runner 2049. That would have been awesome. Better than Jared Leto anyway).
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    edited July 11 Posts: 793
    I'd keep Moore in the role, as I think his age adds a bit of charm to the movie and makes his conflict with the much younger Zorin more interesting. IMO most of the movie's problems are pacing and "fat" issues, so that's what I'd focus on.
    Trim the scenes at the stud farm.
    Either remove Tibett, as he doesn't do anything that Bond can't do, or combine his role with Chuck Lee. Two expendable sidekicks in one movie is too much.
    Completely redo the fight at the stud farm for obvious reasons.
    Remove the KGB angle, it doesn't lead anywhere. Or keep the KGB but maybe have them help Bond at the end somehow. The way the movie is, their presence in the story isn't justified in any way.
    Related to above, trim the sequence where Bond investigates the pipeline. Maybe Bond himself is captured instead of the KGB agent, but he manages to escape somehow. And the hot tub sequence after it is unecessary and only drags the movie to a halt.
    Remove Moore's "oohhhs." The guy sounds terrified.
    Find a more believable way to get Stacy onto the zeppelin.
    Give Moore a different hairstyle.
    Apart from that, I find AVTAK enjoyable in a quirky way.

  • ringfire211ringfire211
    edited July 11 Posts: 675
    Here is an excellent write-up of AVTAK.

    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/opinion-avtak-dynasty-with-dynamite?id=05378

    Can’t agree more with that review! The film certainly has its faults but I’ve always championed it and it never ceases to entertain me in some shape, way, or form. Christopher Walken remains my all-time favorite Bond villain (Walken and Grace Jones are my favorite villain pair) and the Golden Gate finale is my favorite climax in the series! And while the film has gone down considerably in my ratings over the years (it used to be near the top) it’s still a fun Roger Moore outing. And sooooo sooooo 1985, as the article points out.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,619
    My admiration for AVTAK has only increased after this last viewing. I certainly find it to be one of the better Bond swan songs - at least it’s 10x better than the likes of Diamonds are Forever and Die Another Day. I probably prefer the film to No Time To Die as well. I used to think Moore’s age was the problem but honestly I kind of like the juxtaposition of having an older, more gentlemen like Bond against the unpredictable chaos of Christopher Walken and Grace Jones. I don’t think Tanya Roberts is as bad as people make her out to be also - she feels quite normal when compared to some of the other Bond girls from Moore’s tenure which I quite liked. Perhaps some of the action leaves a lot to be desired but the final 30 minutes are amongst the best moments of any Bond film from the massacre in the mine to Mayday’s sacrifice and finally the confrontation between Bond and Zorin on the Golden Gate Bridge. Decent film I’d argue.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited July 11 Posts: 6,854
    slide_99 wrote: »
    I'd keep Moore in the role, as I think his age adds a bit of charm to the movie and makes his conflict with the much younger Zorin more interesting. IMO most of the movie's problems are pacing and "fat" issues, so that's what I'd focus on.
    Trim the scenes at the stud farm.
    Either remove Tibett, as he doesn't do anything that Bond can't do, or combine his role with Chuck Lee. Two expendable sidekicks in one movie is too much.
    Completely redo the fight at the stud farm for obvious reasons.
    Remove the KGB angle, it doesn't lead anywhere. Or keep the KGB but maybe have them help Bond at the end somehow. The way the movie is, their presence in the story isn't justified in any way.
    Related to above, trim the sequence where Bond investigates the pipeline. Maybe Bond himself is captured instead of the KGB agent, but he manages to escape somehow. And the hot tub sequence after it is unecessary and only drags the movie to a halt.
    Remove Moore's "oohhhs." The guy sounds terrified.
    Find a more believable way to get Stacy onto the zeppelin.
    Give Moore a different hairstyle.
    Apart from that, I find AVTAK enjoyable in a quirky way.

    Remove Tibbett? He's a clear highlight!

    I'd rather remove Stacey!

    If Stacey were killed in the car wash, and then the rest of the movie were Bond and Tibbett in an international buddy movie, I think AVTAK would be a lot better.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 2,212
    I like Tibbett but it only works with Moore as Bond.
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