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We are in agreement then, the lack of stakes was due to the villain not having a decent grand scheme, not because of the lack of an ally or love interest character being killed off.
I'm not a "SP defender", someone can disagree with your view without holding the complete opposite one.
And I’d guess the historic go-to sacrificial lamb, a Bond woman, will be seen less and less at the altar. After Severine, it’s not as chic, nor appetizing to do away with a woman character.
That leaves an ally of Bond to take-on this duty. I’d say any Mathis-like characters will have to watch their backs from here on out.
Sure. The love of Bond’s life or long running characters dying shouldn’t always be a thing. But there is a lot of death in Bond, and to some extent you’re always wondering which of Bond’s allies or even love interest is going to make it in each film.
I suppose to do something different with even that expectation you could have a Bond ally meet a gruesome fate that completely changes them, but doesn’t kill them. I’m thinking of Mathis in one of Raymond Benson’s novels being tortured to make him go blind. Or of course Felix Leiter getting mauled by sharks. Could be quite interesting and show how dangerous Bond’s world is.
Love it. How original. Nicely done :) A twist on our expectations, right from the get go.
My biggest concern. You have convinced me to watch it.
Cool, now if only he could stop being a ridiculous pony haired buffoon...
When he accepts voice work to portray Mickey Mouse the question of whether his voice is OK for Bond will be asked no more. As for pony-haired buffoon, that won't stop. His proponents and he seem to think his hair is one of his greatest assets.
I'm not an ATJ advocate at all, but there is such as thing as... a haircut.
Has Damson Idris come up? Good-looking British lead actor of the right age, I guess he should be in the mix.
What concerns me is he’s not a very interesting actor. He’s had some great roles - leads in blockbusters and smaller budget films, and certainly interesting supporting roles - and I feel he’s been unmemorable in the majority of them at best, and quite disappointing at worst. That’s the dealbreaker for me.
If he was picked I’d certainly give him the benefit of the doubt. But my instinct is stronger candidates could shine through.
Terence Young called it Connery’s “Frog” face. Whenever he saw it he’d comment “Sean…Frog!” and Connery would immediately correct it.
That's it, haha. That's in the old Criterion commentaries isn't it? The ones supposedly banned but are all online (and actually quite interesting). Sounds weird but with young Connery you notice the creases on both side of his cheeks and quite full lips that give him that 'duck's mouth' (at least in my opinion). Not a criticism at all, and I think it's what gave him a really cool wry smile.
Personally I like when an actor has an interesting face and has those little quirks (again, Craig and Brosnan had it with their pouting, and actually I'd say it gives the impression both have the 'cruel' mouths of Fleming's Bond. No idea if it's more conscious on ATJ's part or if it's just an affliction).
An affliction of great vanity….!
If this guy is chosen and he’s to be an ambassador for the next decade or more, he really needs to clean up his public persona. He comes off as a jack ass.
He’s probably as nice as pie, but his persona needs some work. A lot of work.
On top of that, his acting isn’t bad, but, like many have complained repeatedly, he’s somehow very forgettable. I can’t explain it, other than to say it must be a lack of big movie star charisma.
Pascal and Heyman can fix it.
To be fair I don’t know if he’s some sort of PR disaster waiting to happen. I think while some of us find him annoying he does a lot of publicity for his films - I’ve see him pop up on YouTube doing videos for Variety or Mythical Kitchen etc - and I’ve never seen much negative reaction (the opposite in fact). Heck, I enjoyed some of those interviews. You could definitely argue he comes across quite well. The only thing negative I’ve heard about him is the background of his marriage/the age gap and when they met, and that’s less about him.
Again, my issue is his ability as an actor. I’ve seen nothing in his recent work that convinces me he’s the best option. I agree, I don’t think he has that charisma needed for Bond. But I could be comically wrong!
Yeah I always feel he rather disappears in the films I've seen. He was given an absolute gift with his supporting role in Fall Guy and does zero with it: kind of comparable to the parts Craig and Brosnan had in stuff like Logan Lucky or Mars Attacks which they borderline stole the respective movies with. I feel like Hollywood is persevering with him because he looks like a leading man yet he never gives them a leading man performance (not sure Kraven will have helped).
Maybe 28 Years is the one he's finally become interesting, I haven't seen it yet.
I know, I know, some will say “they owe us nothing”, “fanservicing is always bad”, blah blah, but that’s not the point, it’s just statistical analysis.
Shall we? Mods? :)
I suppose you could argue there's something to him. I thought he was great in Nowhere Boy, and I liked him in Kick Ass. I would have said at one point he was one of the most interesting British actors around.
Then again, I'm sure there are people who also rate his more recent performances quite highly - Bullit Train, Nocturnal Animals, Nosferatu etc. I'd personally say he was disappointing in all of those. Not bad by any stretch, don't get me wrong. He's a relatively effective character actor. But he's never quite the stand out. It's something I really noticed by Godzilla. I think to be Bond you need that extra something.
But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's there. I don't think ATJ is uncharismatic incidentally. And honestly, compared to other potential Bonds like Aidan Turner and (I know this might be a controversial thing to say) Theo James, I think he does have more of that movie star presence to him even though I don't think he's as good an actor. Don't think it'll be him, but I can understand considering him.
I guess it depends on the actor and the film. I think mid 30s is an ideal age for Bond though. They may well go for a Bond earlier in his career, but one who's established (a sort of year two or three type thing which they've basically done in the new Batman and Superman films).
Put me down for late 30s/early 40s. In all honesty I think Bond needs to be ageless., an indeterminate age of a man with the energy of youth and experience of a seasoned agent.
I feel the same, my friend.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to do a poll on this? Get everyone to participate?