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Should we get a new M / Q / Moneypenny for BOND 26 and beyond ?

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 8:03am Posts: 18,412
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Why not? He’s great.

    I don't think so. He's rather limited, mostly if not exclusively a comedy actor, he has neither gravitas nor authority to pass as a high ranking civil servant.

    Oh gosh, watch A Very English Scandal if you can, he’s brilliant in it and I think shows everything you’re asking for there.
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I personally disagree about Colman as M, and before I say this I don't want users to think I'm specifically talking about you, but more generally, I think the concern that she'd be 'too similar' to Judi Dench possibly says more about how female legacy in male-dominated roles are perceived, than about Colman's actual potential.

    With male actors who've played M, like Bernard Lee, Robert Brown, and Ralph Fiennes, they don't seem to be held to the same standard of 'difference' from their predecessors. But with women, it’s as if there can only be one version, or else it’s redundant. Colman brings a very different energy to the table: she’s unpredictable, emotionally layered, and can switch between warmth and authority in a way that’s totally her own. I think she could redefine the role just as powerfully as Dench did, not echo it.

    Again, I'm not accusing anyone of this double standard, just pointing out it's possibility.

    It’s a fair point and she does indeed make every role her own, but I think slightly different with Robert Brown as he’s pretty much just a direct replacement for Lee (I would say playing the same character but let’s not get into that! :D ), plus I’m not sure he was even all that great really. He was fine but not much more for me. And I’d say Fiennes was a contrast to the Lee/Brown M.
    But yeah you do make a good point, I’m sure she’d be very good.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,452
    My hope for M should Ralph Fiennes not return would be Jarod Harris. I think Hugh Grant might make a decent Q. I’d nominate Felicity Jones for Moneypenny.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I'm not sure the males M were that similar. Even within their respective tenure. Ralph Fiennes was at times considerably different from Bernard Lee and Robert Brown in any case, morally ambiguous, sometimes borderline melancholic. I always thought Mallory was more military than the others, far less comfortable in the role of a high ranking civil servant.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,892
    Charlotte Rampling for M. Or Jared Harris. Or Jeremy Irons.
    Bu actually, Ralph Fiennes would be the only one I'd like to see returning. Not as Mallory. But simply as M, no explanation required. A good luck charm, transitioning from one era to another, just like Dench.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 749
    Is there nothing to be said for cgi reproductions of Lois Maxwell and Bernard Lee?

    Perhaps swap roles, too?
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,819
    Univex wrote: »
    Charlotte Rampling for M. Or Jared Harris. Or Jeremy Irons.
    Bu actually, Ralph Fiennes would be the only one I'd like to see returning. Not as Mallory. But simply as M, no explanation required. A good luck charm, transitioning from one era to another, just like Dench.
    I think of all other actors from the previous era, Ralph Fiennes is the one most likely to come back. He's got the name recognition and for Fiennes it's an easy paycheck. I'm not saying he necessarily will be back as M, but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 749
    Hope Fiennes, and the character of Mallory, is done and dusted.
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