Best/Worst Bond Score

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  • eddychaputeddychaput Montreal, Canada
    Posts: 364
    Best: TB (although OHMSS is a close 2nd)
    Worst: GE. Boring answer, I know, what can I say. I'm in the majority camp.

    As for rankings/classifications, I'd go:

    Gold standard:
    TB
    OHMSS
    CR
    TLD
    LALD
    YOLT

    Very good:
    FRWL
    GF
    TND
    TMWTGG
    DAF

    Decent:
    AVTAK
    OP
    LTK
    SK
    SP
    QOS
    SF

    Not a big fan:
    DAD
    FYO (there are a couple of cues I like. Not a bad score, just one that doesn't grab me that much)
    DN (as music per say, it's actually good. As a Bond score, it's iffy)
    TWINE (similar to TND, but somehow a lot more generic)
    TSWLM (sure, it has some charm, but overall it's just not for me)

    No thanks:
    GE
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    This possibly belongs in the James Bond Questions thread but I thought here was a better place to ask something that just struck me watching FRWL:

    I think we'd mostly agree that Bond theme apart, the score for DN isnt that great. In FRWL the score is by John Barry and its pretty good throughout right?

    So why on earth at the end during the boat chase do they use that god awful track from DN that sounds like its from a 50's B movie?

    You surely cant be telling me that John Barry couldnt knock out a better piece of music than this in his lunch break?

    The only logical conclusion I can draw is that initially they decided they didnt want any music with that scene, Barry scored the film and went off on holiday or something and then at the 11th hour someone decided that the scene really needed some music so they just did a quick copy and paste. Given the acrimony between Barry and Norman I can t envisage why John would use a (poor) track from the previous soundtrack of his own volition.

    Maybe it was a decision by Cubby & Harry to have some sort of continuity?
  • edited February 2016 Posts: 489
    Worse- NSNA and GE

    Best- OHMSS, TLD, TB and YOLT
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,388
    This possibly belongs in the James Bond Questions thread but I thought here was a better place to ask something that just struck me watching FRWL:

    I think we'd mostly agree that Bond theme apart, the score for DN isnt that great. In FRWL the score is by John Barry and its pretty good throughout right?

    So why on earth at the end during the boat chase do they use that god awful track from DN that sounds like its from a 50's B movie?

    You surely cant be telling me that John Barry couldnt knock out a better piece of music than this in his lunch break?

    The only logical conclusion I can draw is that initially they decided they didnt want any music with that scene, Barry scored the film and went off on holiday or something and then at the 11th hour someone decided that the scene really needed some music so they just did a quick copy and paste. Given the acrimony between Barry and Norman I can t envisage why John would use a (poor) track from the previous soundtrack of his own volition.

    Maybe it was a decision by Cubby & Harry to have some sort of continuity?

    I'd probably leave it up to time constraints. If you recall, there are a couple versions of Thunderball in distribution where the last scene has 2 different versions. The ultimate/blu-ray version has the unfinished score using the DN Bond theme where as the VHS/Special edition have the completed score with a heavier Bombastic version of the Bond theme. That was of course because John Barry didn't have enough time to finish the score before the film's competition but had most of the score complete. So I'd probably the same reasons applied to FRWL's boat finale.

    Finished Soundtrack Version - http://picosong.com/hCme/
    Original Unfinished / Blu-Ray version. http://picosong.com/hCmL/
  • GE good film, score too low key for me, or rather there is way too much of the low key.
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    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2. Thunderball
    3. You Only Live Twice
    4. Moonraker
    5. Quantum of Solace
    6. Casino Royale
    7. A View to a Kill
    8. Goldfinger
    9. GoldenEye
    10. The Spy Who Loved Me
    11. Tomorrow Never Dies
    12. The Living Daylights
    13. Octopussy
    14. Live and Let Die
    15. From Russia with Love
    16. Skyfall
    17. The World Is Not Enough
    18. Die Another Day
    19. No Time to Die
    20. Licence to Kill
    21. Diamonds Are Forever
    22. The Man with the Golden Gun
    23. Spectre
    24. Dr. No
    25. For Your Eyes Only
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    @FoxRox, very happy to see GE cracking your top 10. I love that score too :)
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    @GoldenGun It's not a popular opinion, but I'm glad there's at least a couple of us! I really love its uniqueness within the series and earnestly do enjoy it a lot. This is a particularly tough list to make because I really like most of the scores, though. The weaker ones are still good usually.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    @GoldenGun It's not a popular opinion, but I'm glad there's at least a couple of us! I really love its uniqueness within the series and earnestly do enjoy it a lot. This is a particularly tough list to make because I really like most of the scores, though. The weaker ones are still good usually.

    Yes, I agree. I think I actually like all the scores. I may not be sure about every single track, but in general I can enjoy all of them. A consistenly good aspect in the franchise, I'd say. A bit like the pre-title and title sequences.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    @GoldenGun It's not a popular opinion, but I'm glad there's at least a couple of us! I really love its uniqueness within the series and earnestly do enjoy it a lot. This is a particularly tough list to make because I really like most of the scores, though. The weaker ones are still good usually.

    Yes, I agree. I think I actually like all the scores. I may not be sure about every single track, but in general I can enjoy all of them. A consistenly good aspect in the franchise, I'd say. A bit like the pre-title and title sequences.

    Yeah. Same here. Bond music is the best film music. So consistent. Not sure there's any other franchise where fans are eager to know who and who are doing the music.
  • The Arnold scores:
    1. DAD (really cool, Bond theme takes are well done, and I Will Return would have been a great theme)
    2. TWINE (Really easy listening, dramatic when it needs to be, M and the alarm clock is great as well as Come In 007)
    3. QoS (Oil Fields and Field Trip are great, as is the Vesper/Bond theme overlap at the end of the film.
    4. TND (bit eager with the Bond theme and falls off for the end of the film, but still quite cool and nice listen)
    5. CR (works well with the film to complement the scenes, but doesn't hold up on its own for a listen)

    The Barry scores:
    1. OHMSS (great theme, other music is great too)
    2. YOLT (music suits the setting and is quite original as well)
    3. DAF (Lots of brass, with really cool cues, integrates the theme well, Bond meets Bambi and Thumper is a highlight)
    4. TLD (Pretty good on the whole, not entirely a fan of the Ice Chase cue though, but an overall good score)
    5. GF (Lovely integration of the theme. Sometimes is silent when it shouldn't be though)
    6. AVTAK (Great use of the theme, new OHMSS inspired theme is cool)
    7. TMWTGG (Theme isn't great, but good integration, and Bond theme is used well)
    8. MR (Freefall is great, and the space parts are epic)
    9. TB (Great use of the Bond theme in stealth moments. Not a fan of the 007 cue usage however)
    10. FRWL (Rough around the edges but nice theme and Bond Meets Tania is a highlight)
    11. OP (Theme is boring so uses fall flat. Bond theme is pretty uninspiring (except for Bond Look-Alike). Best part is probably circling violins in palace fight)

    The Rest: Norman Dr. No , Serra,
    1. Martin's LALD (bit quiet in places, but really cool, especially for the first half of the movie)
    2. Kamen's LTK (only shame is that Youtube barely has it. Good use of the Bond theme without being repetitive)
    3. Hamlisch's TSWLM (alright, but most unmemorable apart from Ride to Atlantis and Bond 77, both of which are nice)
    4. Zimmer's NTTD (alright, would probably be more positive if it wasn't for use of All the Time in the World)
    5. Newman's SP (bit boring, but PTS score is great, and score when Bond and Madeleine escape the building (Detonation) is nice as well. Elsewise unremarkable)
    6. Newman's SF (Some cool motifs that I personally think fit better in Spectre. Bond theme and action motifs a bit repetitive though. Score when M reads poetry is quite good)
    7. Conti's FYEO (Alright listen on its own (especially the Bond theme parts like Goodbye, Countess or Submarine, or Melina's Revenge or the Citroen Chase etc.), but in the context of the film it doesn't work. Removes any tension)
    8. Norman's Dr. No (Not great. Probably the style of soundtracks of the time.)
    9. Serra's GE (complete nonsense, can't believe this is one of the few Bond scores on Spotify. Really is quite frustrating).
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    The Arnold scores:
    1. DAD (really cool, Bond theme takes are well done, and I Will Return would have been a great theme)
    2. TWINE (Really easy listening, dramatic when it needs to be, M and the alarm clock is great as well as Come In 007)
    3. QoS (Oil Fields and Field Trip are great, as is the Vesper/Bond theme overlap at the end of the film.
    4. TND (bit eager with the Bond theme and falls off for the end of the film, but still quite cool and nice listen)
    5. CR (works well with the film to complement the scenes, but doesn't hold up on its own for a listen)

    The Barry scores:
    1. OHMSS (great theme, other music is great too)
    2. YOLT (music suits the setting and is quite original as well)
    3. DAF (Lots of brass, with really cool cues, integrates the theme well, Bond meets Bambi and Thumper is a highlight)
    4. TLD (Pretty good on the whole, not entirely a fan of the Ice Chase cue though, but an overall good score)
    5. GF (Lovely integration of the theme. Sometimes is silent when it shouldn't be though)
    6. AVTAK (Great use of the theme, new OHMSS inspired theme is cool)
    7. TMWTGG (Theme isn't great, but good integration, and Bond theme is used well)
    8. MR (Freefall is great, and the space parts are epic)
    9. TB (Great use of the Bond theme in stealth moments. Not a fan of the 007 cue usage however)
    10. FRWL (Rough around the edges but nice theme and Bond Meets Tania is a highlight)
    11. OP (Theme is boring so uses fall flat. Bond theme is pretty uninspiring (except for Bond Look-Alike). Best part is probably circling violins in palace fight)

    The Rest: Norman Dr. No , Serra,
    1. Martin's LALD (bit quiet in places, but really cool, especially for the first half of the movie)
    2. Kamen's LTK (only shame is that Youtube barely has it. Good use of the Bond theme without being repetitive)
    3. Hamlisch's TSWLM (alright, but most unmemorable apart from Ride to Atlantis and Bond 77, both of which are nice)
    4. Zimmer's NTTD (alright, would probably be more positive if it wasn't for use of All the Time in the World)
    5. Newman's SP (bit boring, but PTS score is great, and score when Bond and Madeleine escape the building (Detonation) is nice as well. Elsewise unremarkable)
    6. Newman's SF (Some cool motifs that I personally think fit better in Spectre. Bond theme and action motifs a bit repetitive though. Score when M reads poetry is quite good)
    7. Conti's FYEO (Alright listen on its own (especially the Bond theme parts like Goodbye, Countess or Submarine, or Melina's Revenge or the Citroen Chase etc.), but in the context of the film it doesn't work. Removes any tension)
    8. Norman's Dr. No (Not great. Probably the style of soundtracks of the time.)
    9. Serra's GE (complete nonsense, can't believe this is one of the few Bond scores on Spotify. Really is quite frustrating).

    Great write up!

    Respectfully disagree regarding Kamen's use of the Bond theme not being repetitive. He's already overused it before the PTS ends!
  • Thank you!

    I must say that I circle around about the multiple uses of the very brassy and loud effort, at least on their own, but for me it works in the film. Either way, the quieter Bond themes, such as when Bond prepares to kill Sanchez or when he walks into Lupe's room, are spectacular.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Doing these two offhand, first come to mind:

    Best score: You Only Live Twice (just gorgeous)
    Worse score: Goldeneye (in an otherwise perfect Bond movie)
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited June 25 Posts: 8,307
    Best: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Least Favourite: Dr. No
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    edited June 25 Posts: 2,622
    Best: LALD
    (MR a close second)
    Worst: QOS
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,642
    Best Barry 007 score: The Living Daylights
    Best non-Barry 007 score: GoldenEye
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    Worst 007 score: Skyfall
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited June 27 Posts: 3,976
    Ranking of 007 Scores

    (Barry):
    1. On Her Majesty's Secret Service (just perfect in every aspect, I don't know, everything about this film is perfect, as Louis Armstrong said: "Nothing more, nothing less")
    2. A View To A Kill (May not be a fan of the film itself but goodness, the score is lovely from 'Wine With Stacey' which is the main highlight, to the 'Golden Gate Bridge Fight', it's 80s, but the scores doesn't sound dated at all, Barry managed to encapsulate the classy feel of the scores).
    3. You Only Live Twice (Exquisite and lovely)
    4. From Russia With Love (Mystery, danger, and intrigue, very Hitchcockian, yes, but it fits well within the film, I think the scores in this film fit well with the mood and tone of the Fleming Books, as they're not fantastical, not bombastic, but full of intrigue and grounded, if I'm going to read the books again, and think of a score to give background music to my reading, at least in my mind, scores like in FRWL may fit in).
    5. Thunderball (Very grand, elegant and exquisite, a breathe of fresh air after the dramatic and serious in sound that's Goldfinger).
    6. Goldfinger (The scores sounded and felt like they're telling the film's story already, the scores captured the film's mood).
    7. The Living Daylights (I do missed the classy sophisticated Bondian scores in this particular film, 'The Inflight Fight', for example, is nice to hear as a score on its own, but I don't think of it as Bondian style, I do say, the score is a bit dated, very 80s in sound with the use of beats and some effects, didn't aged well for me, very New Wave in feel).
    8. Diamonds Are Forever (Scores sounded a bit like those played in Soap Opera TV shows, it's like Barry was trying to make it dramatic and bombastic at the same time, but didn't quite worked, it's like trying to bake the most perfect cake but it ended up overcooked).
    9. Octopussy (I liked 'The Palace Fight', but that's all, not bad, but none have stood out in order to be one of the best scores, they're decent, but compared to the other Bond scores above, the scores here are a bit neutral in comparison).
    10. Moonraker (For how I liked Moonraker, sadly, upon rewatching the film, the score here felt a bit of Star Wars, just listen to the 'Flight In To Space', one may think of Close Encounters of A Third Kind, too much over the top, although I still liked the film, but it's too much for Bond).
    11. The Man With The Golden Gun (Bond scores in Oriental Style, YOLT did it great and more exquisite or creative, this one, on the other hand, more like an exaggerated showing of what Bond in Asia sounds like and it's not good).


    (Arnold):
    1. The World Is Not Enough (Dramatic but the scores are put in proper places)
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies (Yes, it's the year for TND this time, the scores are balanced in tone yet complemented very much of the film's scenes without pretending too much, 'Paris And Bond' is a very touching score, but the most wonderful score is 'Kowloon Bay', I liked it, it brought me back to the classic Bond of Connery/Lazenby, Arnold captured the Barry style in this film).
    3. Casino Royale (the scores complemented the film very well and decent as a individual scores on their own, although not as great as those other two, a middle of the pack, not bad, but not excellent either).
    4. Die Another Day (Too much high tech, I do liked 'Going Down Together', but apart from that, they all sound very video game-y).
    5. Quantum of Solace (Quantum of Solace suffered for me, from the same case as with Licence To Kill, the scores are not that much different from the action films that came around at that time, that same sound and style that I've also heard in the likes of Mission Impossible, Jason Bourne, Taken, and many more, hearing the score on QoS, reminded me of those other action films released around that same time, again, just as with Licence To Kill which also sound very generic, similar to the 80s action films).

    (Other Composers):
    1. SPECTRE (The one that I liked the most, I liked 'Blindfold' and 'The Safe House' scores, the scores sounded a bit exotic, I liked it, there's something in those scores that I liked).
    2. Skyfall (Great, but unlike SPECTRE, the scores lacked a bit in feelings or atmosphere, it's like just made as an obligatory scores to complement the film only, but as songs on their own, they're lacking a bit in melodies).
    3. Licence To Kill (Here's now what I've compared with Quantum Of Solace, like what I've said in the former film, the score felt a bit trendy like with most action films' scores of the time, I've felt the same in the scores in this film, here, the scores sounded like those 80s Action Films, I've watched some 80s Action Films free on TV and the scores of those films were reminiscent of those in Licence To Kill, those are still decent scores, but very generic).
    4. The Spy Who Loved Me (Some scores can be a bit discotheque, but I've enjoyed it a bit, I do liked 'The Tanker' score, and it's fun, although, it's obviously not one of the best, but the scores in this are something I could enjoy those scores even outside the film itself, as songs on their own).
    5. Live And Let Die (Forgot this one, sorry 😅, anyway, those scores are decent, but they're somewhat repetitive, I've found the scores somewhat tiring while watching the film).
    5. No Time To Die (Some good scores like 'Should We Get To Know Each Other' and 'Home' but some scores also leaned too heavily on On Her Majesty's Secret Service and The Lion King callbacks (like 'Closing The Doors' and 'Square Escape', which I really disliked, it shows the lack of originality and creativity of Hans Zimmer at some point).
    6. For Your Eyes Only (The scores doesn't sound Bondian with the possible exception of 'Take Me Home', the rest were just too much Pop Sounding).
    7. Goldeneye (Yes, seen this coming, but I think others have pointed out the flaws of the scores in this film better that I don't need to emphasize it anymore, is it bad? No, there are no outright bad Bond films, but in the case of Goldeneye, there are some scores that are just better.
  • Interesting! I find the Barry scores impossible to rank. They all have strengths and weaknesses and honestly at times I found myself preferring your order to mine.

    You're missing Dr. No by the way! I doubt it could go any higher than 6th however...
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Great
    FRWL
    GF
    TB
    YOLT
    OHMSS
    DAF
    MR
    OP
    AVTAK
    TLD
    LTK
    GE -- yes! GE. You read it well. GE. Sue me.
    TND
    CR
    QOS
    SF -- yes! It's a shocker, isn't it?
    SP -- yes! It's another shocker, isn't it?
    NTTD -- yes! It's - Oh, you get the point.

    Good
    LALD
    TMWTGG
    FYEO
    TWINE
    DAD

    Mediocre
    DN
    TSWLM

    Terrible
    NSNA

    Awesome though not Bondian
    CR67
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