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DAF or LALD?
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Which is the more enjoyable viewing experience, DAF or LALD?
Connery in a Moore-like film, or Moore in a Connery-like film?
Connery in a Moore-like film, or Moore in a Connery-like film?
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I think it's the second best movie of the 70's. Only TSWLM is better.
I think the early scenes of LALD are a bit more down to Earth and it does feel more like a Connery film. Also a lot of elements in the character like the "I wouldn't have killed you before" he still has some of the Connery meanness. Once you get to the boat chase and JW Pepper it is fully Moore though.
Blaxploitation and gritty New Yorker thrillers of the era, French Connection et al, but still Bond enough. Moore's casting precipitated a few changes: no Q, less Moneypenny, bourbon and a plot about smack.
It's a good movie. Slick dialogue, great soundtrack and a plethora of villains but it's got its criticism. Seymour is wooden. Kanaga bores. Justbgot enough in the tank to make port.
I love the greasy lounge lizardness of DAF. Connery is having a blast. The suggestive dialogue was delicious. Wint and Kidd were amazing. Soundtrack was sly and brilliant and sexy…
Coin-toss. I could watch either/or and enjoy each equally.
LALD, on the other hand, is my second favorite Moore film, and does almost everything perfectly. Moore himself is outstanding in it, the Bond girl and villains are some of the series' finest, the title song and soundtrack are awesome, and it's definitely got the most comedic value for me of the whole series. Other than some pacing issues in the second half, I have no problems with it. In summary, DAF is a guaranteed bottom 5 Bond film for me, while LALD is barely outside my Top 10 as of now.
Have to disagree about Connery. He seems like a
man forcing a good time. He knows the hitherto magic is missing.
I do wonder if he regrets leaving before OHMSS.
Yes, good point about Moore. He is an absolute swine in LALD yet comes across as a lethal asset. Shooting Samedi in the head but eschewing his Dirty Harry hand-cannon for a fist fight with the same foe moments later.
But I don't really consider it a "Connery-like" film
Not as grounded as DN or FRWL or TB
Not as fanstasical as GF or YOLT
Saint-like perhaps?
Meanwhile, as DAF preceeds Moore's arrival in the role, it could be argued that all the so called "Moore style" films are really just a third style of Connery movie
DAF just didn't aged well with an out of shape and already old Connery who was disinterested in the role, a bumbling Bond Girl (a shame as she's one of the best in the books), Blofeld being silly, it's almost more like an Austin Powers film than James Bond, I'm still one of the people standing on the hill that DAF should've really been a revenge film following OHMSS with Bond avenging Tracy's death, or if they really couldn't do it, they should've adapted the book instead, might not work now, but it could work then, for the flaws of the book, it's still Five times better than the Parody film.
They spent 9 months filming OHMSS with a rookie director. It would have been a nightmare worse than YOLT.
I think Connery had a good time in DAF. Maybe he had too much fun.
TMWTGG is more Connery-like. I think that's the reason why fans don't like it.
LALD was more like a double episode of The Saint. In some ways Roger is meaner, but the whole plot is very The Saint IMO.
DAF, until the Brossa era, was at the bottom of my rankings. Coming after the sublime OHMSS, it was a huge drop in quality. Connery is good, but I find it rather slow, with low key action, it does have some great one liners, and nice theme from Shirley, but I think LALD beats it in almost every department!
I agree, Connery was very much forced in DAF, his disinterest and boredom was really obvious in the film, his enthusiasm like in the earlier films was nowhere to be found since YOLT, based on his face, he would rather be anywhere else than being in DAF.
As for OHMSS, he didn't regretted it, at this point, Connery just disliked being with EON, it went from him demanding a huge paycheck, to a paycheck with creative control, to disliking EON, it's a complex situation.
He was given a huge sum of money in DAF, what did he do? Donated it to a Scottish Charity (Fund).
Connery was done with EON.
Did he hate Bond? No, after all, he had worked with McClory many times writing several drafts for 'Warhead', and played Bond in NSNA and later voiced Bond in FRWL video game, he did not hate Bond, he's still open in playing the character.
Him working with McClory was like him trying to turn the tables against EON, a slap to their face.
But he sure hated EON, he did not attended Cubby's funeral.
I think it's Moore who became the bridge in tying the relationship between Connery and Cubby, but I'm not sure if it worked out in the end (again, he was missing in Cubby's funeral).
Both films have exceptional soundtracks.
Connery always loved humor. He was not Timothy Dalton, even in The Rock it's clear what kind of Bond he was.
I think of the "Make sure he doesn't get away." In DN and "She should have kept her mouth shut" in FRWL as a couple of stand outs.
The humor in DAF, and LALD is more bolder and not always used to diffuse tension. "Alimentary My dear Dr. Leiter." and "I have a brudder", "Small World".
"Bolder" or just "Broader"...?
Broad meaning "simple," "unsubtle," "aimed at the lowest common denominator."
Whereas I think Bond humour should always endeavour to be
Deadpan, dry humour, or dry-wit humour[1] is the deliberate display of emotional neutrality or no emotion. The delivery is meant to be blunt, ironic, laconic.