EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • Posts: 5,125
    Venutius wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I do think that one of SF's strengths is giving us a deserted, almost Gothic looking version of Scotland.
    Indeed. Just off the top of my head, there's Gothic elements in the ancestral home in an isolated setting; the past intervening in the present; a pursued protagonist; a hero-villain; the revealing of and confrontation with buried secrets, And your basic extreme weather, darkness and death, obvs. All good stuff. Beats the Home Alone analogies, at least.

    Definitely it's more Straw Dogs than Home Alone as many have said ;) I like the feel and look of it though. I know some people criticise SF's third act (even critics/audiences who love the movie) but I really like how it comes together.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I wouldn't necessarily bank on a Brosnan return with Bond in America either frankly, but we'll see what we get, and of course never say never! Anyway, let's see what comes of these tariffs first, if anything.
    I don't want to drag this further into politics than it has already, but I do want to clear up two points. 1) I don't know what is meant by 'progressive' if it's another way of calling someone left wing, then that is not true (in my case). 2) posting that gif mocking Trump is the worst thing I have ever done. What's the worst that he has ever done?


    Also, I had to google what TDS is. If it came down to a choice of having TDS or being the village idiot, i'll take a dose of TDS.


    MajorDSmythe out
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    mtm wrote: »
    Thing is, if they make in America it'll be more expensive, and we won't get the budget onscreen where it should be. That's why this 'plan' is so stupid.
    And already it will have added uncertainty to the industry (an industry already going through a rough patch and which really didn't need it), so it's quite possible that we're looking at a longer delay. Anyone expecting this to go down well on a forum of Bond fans, or just fans of western movies in general, who are eager for the next film are on another planet. No derangement required, just a basic understanding of the situation.

    Yeah, I think these are both fair points. Not to get too deep into politics (I'm not a fan of discussing it here - best stick to Bond) but the sense I get isn't that this forum is full of left wingers

    Yes that's far from my impression too! :D In fact I have thought before that there's an interesting discussion to be had there about whether Bond and his attitudes and just the overall sense of conservatism (with a small 'c') he stands for perhaps naturally attracts as many or perhaps more right wing people than left wing, but generally it's felt like it probably leads to a quieter life to let that one lie! :)
  • edited 1:53pm Posts: 5,125
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I wouldn't necessarily bank on a Brosnan return with Bond in America either frankly, but we'll see what we get, and of course never say never! Anyway, let's see what comes of these tariffs first, if anything.
    I don't want to drag this further into politics than it has already, but I do want to clear up two points. 1) I don't know what is meant by 'progressive' if it's another way of calling someone left wing, then that is not true (in my case). 2) posting that gif mocking Trump is the worst thing I have ever done. What's the worst that he has ever done?


    Also, I had to google what TDS is. If it came down to a choice of having TDS or being the village idiot, i'll take a dose of TDS.


    MajorDSmythe out
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    mtm wrote: »
    Thing is, if they make in America it'll be more expensive, and we won't get the budget onscreen where it should be. That's why this 'plan' is so stupid.
    And already it will have added uncertainty to the industry (an industry already going through a rough patch and which really didn't need it), so it's quite possible that we're looking at a longer delay. Anyone expecting this to go down well on a forum of Bond fans, or just fans of western movies in general, who are eager for the next film are on another planet. No derangement required, just a basic understanding of the situation.

    Yeah, I think these are both fair points. Not to get too deep into politics (I'm not a fan of discussing it here - best stick to Bond) but the sense I get isn't that this forum is full of left wingers

    Yes that's far from my impression too! :D In fact I have thought before that there's an interesting discussion to be had there about whether Bond and his attitudes and just the overall sense of conservatism (with a small 'c') he stands for perhaps naturally attracts as many or perhaps more right wing people than left wing, but generally it's felt like it probably leads to a quieter life to let that one lie! :)

    Perhaps! Although as is the case with most things if the conversation is sensible there's no reason it can't be discussed.

    I think James Bond has always had criticism from more left and right wing individuals, usually for moral/political reasons. But personally, I know people who would call themselves 'small c conservatives' as well as individuals who work for Trade Unions and are actually quite active in left wing politics who would openly say they like the films and character. It definitely skews more male in my experience, but obviously there are women Bond fans too.

    Regardless I don't think the world (or even the internet!) is split between conservatives and progressives. We all have our nuances, and there's going to be an element here where our political views on, say, the economy, renewable energy, or even Donald Trump are simply not going to be relevant to our enjoyment of Bond. There might be overlap with our very broad sensibilities or even political views in terms of what we discuss about Bond here (ie. would a more socially liberal individual be more likely to be supportive of a Bond who isn't played by a white actor? I don't think this is always the case incidentally - I'm sure plenty of conservative leaning fans are fine with such a Bond given the right actor - and I think often it's that lack of nuance which destroys that particular conversation and gets people unnecessarily riled up. But it's not impossible for it to be the case either). Ultimately though, again, I think it's fair to say this forum has a spectrum of views when you really get into this.

    It's an interesting conversation... although maybe not relevant to this thread, haha. Anyway, very off topic.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 1,852
    007HallY wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I do think that one of SF's strengths is giving us a deserted, almost Gothic looking version of Scotland.
    Indeed. Just off the top of my head, there's Gothic elements in the ancestral home in an isolated setting; the past intervening in the present; a pursued protagonist; a hero-villain; the revealing of and confrontation with buried secrets, And your basic extreme weather, darkness and death, obvs. All good stuff. Beats the Home Alone analogies, at least.

    Definitely it's more Straw Dogs than Home Alone as many have said ;) I like the feel and look of it though. I know some people criticise SF's third act (even critics/audiences who love the movie) but I really like how it comes together.

    I love the third act. It's what keeps Skyfall watchable for me. I got to talk to Chris Corbould once about him directing the sequence of Silva's attack, so I'm very fond of that finale.
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    wouldn't mind seeing another "James Bond in America." Was the last one LTK?

    Generally Bond doesn't do US very well. I'd rather America be shown sparingly. Be that as it may, I think it would be a major creative hindrance to favour the US over other locations. Especially since the United States are hardly exotic anymore.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,600
    wouldn't mind seeing another "James Bond in America." Was the last one LTK?

    CR, if you count the Miami International chase. But the last time a crew shot in the US? Had to be LTK.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Dakato Johnson
    Posts: 7,128
    Love Bond in the US. Just make sure it's every once in a while and not all the time. I want Bond in Texas vs General Midwinter, like in Billion Dollar Brain.

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Will the tariff potentially delay development on Bond 26? Is 2027 now in doubt?
  • Posts: 15,573
    Will the tariff potentially delay development on Bond 26? Is 2027 now in doubt?

    I think it has a big chance of delaying things, yes.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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