Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
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    Maybe also means surrendering greater control of the production as a cost to getting either of them ....
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    I hope they go for a director who'll bring fresh energy rather than just a big name.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited March 11 Posts: 2,641
    I don't think money is the issue, I believe its creative control.

    The producers have a tight grip over their series and rightly so, they know Bond better than anybody. Big directors want more control and more say, as ultimately it's their reputation on the line, not the producers.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I don't think money is the issue, I believe its creative control.

    The producers have a tight grip over their series and rightly so, they know Bond better than anybody. Big directors want more control and more say, as ultimately it's their reputation on the line, not the producers.

    Money is an issue too. They think they Know Bond better. Why hire someone expensive?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    peter wrote: »
    I think the word "Secret feels like a clue. "The Light Of Day" which sounds like a great Bond title, feels like another clue.

    😂 @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , that wouldn’t be a bad title, would it!
    delfloria wrote: »
    Any title that does NOT have "die" in it is OK with me.

    So

    The Light of Die

    Is already included out. So be it.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I don't think money is the issue, I believe its creative control.

    💯 💯 💯…

    Saying that, Villeneuve did meet with EoN after Boyle was fired. There’s interest there, methinks….
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited March 11 Posts: 24,210
    What about "gold"? I think we're good after three titles with that word in them. Time to move on: silver, platinum, ... ;-)

    Seriously, though, I hope they can keep the titles simple or original. In my humble opinion, Brosnan and Craig both went out with the worst titles in their 007 career. 'Die Another Day' and 'No Time To Die' fail to signify anything specific about these films. I find them a bit lazy, applicable to any other Bond film. Even 'Quantum Of Solace' makes sense as the title of the film that will have Bond mourn the loss of Vesper. Even 'TomorrowNeverDies' has a direct link with the plot. But DAD and NTTD are just titles.

    That's just me, of course.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    What about "gold"? I think we're good after three titles with that word in them. Time to move on: silver, platinum, ... ;-)

    Seriously, though, I hope they can keep the titles simple or original. In my humble opinion, Brosnan and Craig both went out with the worst titles in their 007 career. 'Die Another Day' and 'No Time To Die' fail to signify anything specific about these films. I find them a bit lazy, applicable to any other Bond film. Even 'Quantum Of Solace' makes sense as the title of the film that will have Bond mourn the loss of Vesper. Even 'TomorrowNeverDies' has a direct link with the plot. But DAD and NTTD are just titles.

    That's just me, of course.

    I agree with you. The book titles have always been good.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Whelp, looks like Oppenhiemer just won 7 oscars, including best picture, best director and best lead actor.


    I would be amazed if neither Christopher Nolan or Denis Villeneuve is the director of bond 26 now. Snubbing one for the other is a hard enough call, but snubbing both would be madness.

    Winning an Oscar or having a box office hit doesn't automatically make someone the best fit for the job.
  • edited March 11 Posts: 2,275
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    What about "gold"? I think we're good after three titles with that word in them. Time to move on: silver, platinum, ... ;-)

    Platinum-Finger?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Whelp, looks like Oppenhiemer just won 7 oscars, including best picture, best director and best lead actor.


    I would be amazed if neither Christopher Nolan or Denis Villeneuve is the director of bond 26 now. Snubbing one for the other is a hard enough call, but snubbing both would be madness.

    Winning an Oscar or having a box office hit doesn't automatically make someone the best fit for the job.

    I agree. Rami Malek's first job post-Oscar was NTTD and I think a lot of people, fans and general audiences alike, would agree he was one of the weaker villains of the era. Success with one film doesn't immediately translate into another, entirely separate project.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Whelp, looks like Oppenhiemer just won 7 oscars, including best picture, best director and best lead actor.


    I would be amazed if neither Christopher Nolan or Denis Villeneuve is the director of bond 26 now. Snubbing one for the other is a hard enough call, but snubbing both would be madness.

    Winning an Oscar or having a box office hit doesn't automatically make someone the best fit for the job.

    I agree. Rami Malek's first job post-Oscar was NTTD and I think a lot of people, fans and general audiences alike, would agree he was one of the weaker villains of the era. Success with one film doesn't immediately translate into another, entirely separate project.

    Just ask Michael Cimino about going from The Deer Hunter to Heaven’s Gate, in terms of success to failure. As for Nolan, Villeneuve working on Bond, I would love the idea. Just remember, James Bond is the real star, above all. I’m sure they would remember that. If one (or both) directed (and co-wrote) one I’m willing to guess some classic villain would comeback, namely Blofeld.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Whelp, looks like Oppenhiemer just won 7 oscars, including best picture, best director and best lead actor.


    I would be amazed if neither Christopher Nolan or Denis Villeneuve is the director of bond 26 now. Snubbing one for the other is a hard enough call, but snubbing both would be madness.

    Winning an Oscar or having a box office hit doesn't automatically make someone the best fit for the job.

    I agree. Rami Malek's first job post-Oscar was NTTD and I think a lot of people, fans and general audiences alike, would agree he was one of the weaker villains of the era. Success with one film doesn't immediately translate into another, entirely separate project.

    But we aren't arguing who is the right choice, we're arguing who they'll pick, and the fact is they DID pick Malek.

    I've been open with the fact that I would prefer someone like Edgar Wright to direct bond 26, but while Nolan and Villeneuve are available they will remain the top 2 most likely options.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I like Edgar Wright. But he doesn't seem to be a director of that grand feel Bond is all about. Indie-like films are the ones Wright excels with.
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    peter wrote: »
    I don't think money is the issue, I believe its creative control.

    💯 💯 💯…

    Saying that, Villeneuve did meet with EoN after Boyle was fired. There’s interest there, methinks….

    I am starting to think @peter knows something but cannot reveal anything yet, so he is dropping hints instead. 🤔 😇
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Feyador wrote: »
    I don't think EON's ever really had a director at their level of critical acclaim and personalized cinema before. I suppose Danny Boyle can be argued as such, but look how that turned out. It would instantly become a "Denis Villeneuve [or Christopher Nolan] James Bond film," arguably becoming as much about the director as the James Bond character.

    Sure they did. Mendes.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    peter wrote: »
    I don't think money is the issue, I believe its creative control.

    💯 💯 💯…

    Saying that, Villeneuve did meet with EoN after Boyle was fired. There’s interest there, methinks….

    I am starting to think @peter knows something but cannot reveal anything yet, so he is dropping hints instead. 🤔 😇

    No, not at all @Colonel_Venus …! There’s one person that I’m close with who is on the intimate side of the comings and goings at EoN, and he has remained very tight lipped over the last few months.

    But we all know that Villeneuve discussed, publicly, that he did meet with EoN after Boyle was fired. He admitted he very much wanted to direct Craig’s last film, but they couldn’t make his schedule work at the time (he was deep in preproduction on Dune)

    Since this “declaration” Villeneuve has continued admissions that he is a fan of Bond, and he would love to direct one of these films. Hes said this several times and quite honestly and emphatically….

    We know he was at Broccoli’s table a few weeks ago (was it at the BAFTA ceremony?), and literally a couple of days later, he dropped out of a series he’d been developing with Jake Gylenhaal.

    And then, since dropping this series, he has said there’s a secret project that he’s not at liberty to speak about, but it needs to kind of hurry up (if he’s to involve himself).

    So I’ve merely taken what we know, what’s been said, and there is, as far as we know, interest on both sides, that it is, at least, possible, that he *may* be the leading candidate to kick start the new Era.

    But IF this secret project is indeed the next Bond film, it sounds like it’s time sensitive (which would hypothetically mean that stars still have to align in a big way to make this happen).
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    That would be awesome. My fingers are crossed. My hopes are just that. I don't think DV can work given his schedule. At least not for the timeframe we'd want.
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    I like Edgar Wright. But he doesn't seem to be a director of that grand feel Bond is all about. Indie-like films are the ones Wright excels with.

    What about Guy Ritchie instead? His latest movies had surprisingly well done action scenes.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    I like Edgar Wright. But he doesn't seem to be a director of that grand feel Bond is all about. Indie-like films are the ones Wright excels with.

    What about Guy Ritchie instead? His latest movies had surprisingly well done action scenes.

    I think Ritchie, Vaughn & Wright are all similar. Especially Richtie & Vaughn. These guys go for too much style that it becomes cartoonish.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    I like Edgar Wright. But he doesn't seem to be a director of that grand feel Bond is all about. Indie-like films are the ones Wright excels with.

    What about Guy Ritchie instead? His latest movies had surprisingly well done action scenes.

    I think Ritchie, Vaughn & Wright are all similar. Especially Richtie & Vaughn. These guys go for too much style that it becomes cartoonish.

    Fair enough. I think Bond does need a bit of cartoonish to help make things a bit different.
  • Greta Gerwig for director if we can't get Nolan or Villeneuve. Time we had a Bond film directed by a woman.
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    Especially Richtie & Vaughn. These guys go for too much style that it becomes cartoonish.

    I don't think "The Covenant" (2023) or "Wrath of Man" (2021) were cartoonish. These films were actually surprisingly serious in tone.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Especially Richtie & Vaughn. These guys go for too much style that it becomes cartoonish.

    I don't think "The Covenant" (2023) or "Wrath of Man" (2021) were cartoonish. These films were actually surprisingly serious in tone.

    Yeah, I know. I also meant more like the way they move their cameras. Sometimes, they think their films are music videos or commercials.
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    A successful Bond film is always going to come down to an engaging actor and a great story. Audiences don't talk much about who directed a Bond film.
  • edited March 12 Posts: 1,220
    I’ve never been on the Theo James train, but watching him in The Gentlemen… holy smokes… he’s giving one hell of a Bond audition… it’s a shame he’s already almost 40 because the voice, the physicality, the refinement, the edge, the punny one-liners and convincing vulnerability... Shockingly Dalton-esque, in my opinion.

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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’d endorse Theo James for Bond #7 in Bond 26.
    He’s quite excellent in The Gentleman, and displays a few Bondish qualities.
    Confident, charming, tough, good voice, good hair and height. Looks good in military and smart attire. He’s ticking many boxes, and even approaching 40 he’s still got plenty of life in him.
    I’d be quite happy if EON went with him.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited March 12 Posts: 8,226
    Yep, a very strong candidate, I would be happy if he were to be cast.

    The Gif of him buttoning his jacket alone should earn him a screentest. Lol.
  • edited March 12 Posts: 1,389
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    I like Edgar Wright. But he doesn't seem to be a director of that grand feel Bond is all about. Indie-like films are the ones Wright excels with.

    What about Guy Ritchie instead? His latest movies had surprisingly well done action scenes.

    I think Ritchie, Vaughn & Wright are all similar. Especially Richtie & Vaughn. These guys go for too much style that it becomes cartoonish.

    Warth of man and The Covenant are very gritty

    Ritchie can do it and he seems like an easy-going guy.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 12 Posts: 2,114
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    I like Edgar Wright. But he doesn't seem to be a director of that grand feel Bond is all about. Indie-like films are the ones Wright excels with.

    What about Guy Ritchie instead? His latest movies had surprisingly well done action scenes.

    I think Ritchie, Vaughn & Wright are all similar. Especially Richtie & Vaughn. These guys go for too much style that it becomes cartoonish.

    Warth of man and The Covenant are very gritty

    Ritchie can do it and he seems like an easy-going guy.

    So you would to see Bond's bullet coming out of his gun in slow motion and Bond running in slow motion Or Bond screaming in slow motion with his mouth wide as he jumps away from an explosion?
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