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  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 10 Posts: 1,373
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    For a bit of colour and wild creativity for Bond 26, I think a modern villian who lives and dresses like a 17th century Englishman would be entertaining. He's a loner villain who dresses like Edward Teach, but is very hard for Bond to defeat. He is shadowy and highly elusive.

    Not quite the same but Connery looked positively charming as a villain with a formal fashion style in The Avengers.

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    I thought it worked for that film. It could work for Bond too. I certainly wouldn't mind it. So far, I've always rather liked the outfits of our villains.

    Yeah. It did work for that film. Albeit this 17th century Bond villain won't be a joking around. He would be as serious as ever. He would simply be an enigma for Bond.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    I do think they'd be better served having a grounded plot for the next film. I don't envy writers and producers, it must be tough to try to come up with credible threats that aren't too close to anything real world.

    Yes, as Purvis or Wade said before NTTD, the Bond villain has become a reality. While they might think that makes it harder to write new or non cliché Bond stories, most I think would disagree. There are numerous real life Goldfingers and Blofelds in the world now, unfortunately. However, many people can find ways to be creative (not just with Bond), but other great modern day characters too. The trick is not to make your parodies or satires feel forced or obvious.
  • Colonel_VenusColonel_Venus
    edited March 10 Posts: 486
    peter wrote: »
    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is planning on squeezing in bond before Messiah, then that means an announcement can't be far away.

    It's not about squeezing in Bond before Messiah. He 100% wants to make a movie before Messiah anyway. It's about squeezing in Bond before Messiah AND another movie (Rendezvous with Rama or Cleopatra). Otherwise you are right, if he is going to direct Bond 26, it will be announced within months.

    Only if it’s the project that “needs to see the light of day quickly”, which means if this secret project’s script isn’t ready in some allotted time, then there won’t be any such announcement.

    Btw, if that secret project is Bond 26, I wonder why it "“needs to see the light of day quickly”. If it's Bond, did he mean that it needs to happen ASAP because he has a busy schedule and won't have much time later, or did he mean that EON wants to start making it ASAP?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    If Villeneuve is planning on squeezing in bond before Messiah, then that means an announcement can't be far away.

    It's not about squeezing in Bond before Messiah. He 100% wants to make a movie before Messiah anyway. It's about squeezing in Bond before Messiah AND another movie (Rendezvous with Rama or Cleopatra). Otherwise you are right, if he is going to direct Bond 26, it will be announced within months.

    Only if it’s the project that “needs to see the light of day quickly”, which means if this secret project’s script isn’t ready in some allotted time, then there won’t be any such announcement.

    Btw, if that secret project is Bond 26, I wonder why it "“needs to see the light of day quickly”. If it's Bond, did he mean that it needs to happen ASAP because he has a busy schedule and won't have much time later, or did he mean that EON wants to start making it ASAP?

    I would assume that whatever this secret project is, it has more to do with an opening in his schedule (where its Bond, or not).
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I think the word "Secret feels like a clue. "The Light Of Day" which sounds like a great Bond title, feels like another clue.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 10 Posts: 8,105
    For me "quite quickly" in Villeneuves terms is not November 2026. He completed Dune 2 in 2 years (sans delay), and until recently he made a new great film with stunning regularity. I just don't see him using the phrase "quite quickly" to refer to November 2026. That's a long time for someone like him.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think the word "Secret feels like a clue. "The Light Of Day" which sounds like a great Bond title, feels like another clue.

    😂 @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , that wouldn’t be a bad title, would it!
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    Any title that does NOT have "die" in it is OK with me.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    peter wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think the word "Secret feels like a clue. "The Light Of Day" which sounds like a great Bond title, feels like another clue.

    😂 @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , that wouldn’t be a bad title, would it!

    Oh, evidently @peter without doubt! 😁
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    Actually, quite a good idea for a title. Easy to imagine the symbolism of a new Bond stepping into the light.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    delfloria wrote: »
    Any title that does NOT have "die" in it is OK with me.

    I agree, same with "kill".
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ wrote: »
    I think the word "Secret feels like a clue. "The Light Of Day" which sounds like a great Bond title, feels like another clue.

    😂 @SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ , that wouldn’t be a bad title, would it!

    Oh, evidently @peter without doubt! 😁
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Actually, quite a good idea for a title. Easy to imagine the symbolism of a new Bond stepping into the light.

    Count me in with that as a title!
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Agreed guys! it's sure is a great Bond title :)>- It's also an optimistic-sounding title to launch Bond 7's era.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    delfloria wrote: »
    Any title that does NOT have "die" in it is OK with me.

    Agreed. Also, please don't call a Bond film "James Bond". I'm glad the films have so far avoided that awful trend.
  • DewiWynBondDewiWynBond
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    It's already a title.Fzyf5mEXsAAONYZ.jpg:large
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 11 Posts: 8,105
    Whelp, looks like Oppenhiemer just won 7 oscars, including best picture, best director and best lead actor.


    I would be amazed if neither Christopher Nolan or Denis Villeneuve is the director of bond 26 now. Snubbing one for the other is a hard enough call, but snubbing both would be madness.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Yeah, I think it's either Nolan or Villeneuve. But Villeneuve looks more likely.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Nolan is very expensive. I mean, VERY expensive.

  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited March 11 Posts: 565
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    Any title that does NOT have "die" in it is OK with me.

    Agreed. Also, please don't call a Bond film "James Bond". I'm glad the films have so far avoided that awful trend.

    James Bond Chapter 1: The Legend Begins
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 11 Posts: 8,105
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Nolan is very expensive. I mean, VERY expensive.

    Amazon are more than happy to throw 250 million if it means getting the next era off the ground, I'm sure. Apple just spent 700 million on Argylle, Napolean and Killers of the Flower Moon, I'm pretty sure they all lost money or just broke even.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 11 Posts: 1,373
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Nolan is very expensive. I mean, VERY expensive.

    I can say Nolan being a huge Bond fan wouldn't mind taking a pay cut just to put his name on the list of Bond directors. Same as Villeneuve. Them two are the only big name directors, who keep talking about Bond. The two directors really love Bond.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Nolan is very expensive. I mean, VERY expensive.

    Amazon are more than happy to throw 250 million if it means getting the next era off the ground, I'm sure. Apple just spent 700 million on Argylle, Napolean and Killers of the Flower Moon, I'm pretty sure they all lost money or just broke even.

    Amazon? sure. EON? I doubt it.
  • Colonel_VenusColonel_Venus
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    I never understood the “director X is expensive! EON cannot afford them!” argument. Bond movies are among the highest budget movies. EON can afford any director.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited March 11 Posts: 735
    Would love to see it upon reflection, but no way they go for either Villeneuve or Nolan if they want a "lighter" Bond. Not that they necessarily do, of course ...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    I never understood the “director X is expensive! EON cannot afford them!” argument. Bond movies are among the highest budget movies. EON can afford any director.

    And they can always make a deal for a % of box office dollars. They can make the math work, providing that that’s what it’ll cost to get the director they want.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
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    I don't think EON's ever really had a director at their level of critical acclaim and personalized cinema before. I suppose Danny Boyle can be argued as such, but look how that turned out. It would instantly become a "Denis Villeneuve [or Christopher Nolan] James Bond film," arguably becoming as much about the director as the James Bond character.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Feyador wrote: »
    I don't think EON's ever really had a director at their level of critical acclaim and personalized cinema before. I suppose Danny Boyle can be argued as such, but look how that turned out. It would instantly become a "Denis Villeneuve [or Christopher Nolan] James Bond film," arguably becoming as much about the director as the James Bond character.

    But that's arguably what EON will want to give the series a new life after Craig. They need to create buzz from somewhere.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 11 Posts: 2,939
    I think the fact that it’s a Bond film will outweigh the director’s name. The truth is as well a lot of casual viewers don’t know who Villeneuve or even Nolan are, even if they know their films (I always say it was surprising talking to non filmey friends of mine when Oppenheimer was released - Nolan was literally just a name in a poster to them. They really didn’t know or care who he was).

    It might create buzz amongst fans or film buffs, but not general audiences. It also doesn’t guarantee a successful film using one of these directors (financially or creatively).
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Feyador wrote: »
    I don't think EON's ever really had a director at their level of critical acclaim and personalized cinema before. I suppose Danny Boyle can be argued as such, but look how that turned out. It would instantly become a "Denis Villeneuve [or Christopher Nolan] James Bond film," arguably becoming as much about the director as the James Bond character.

    But that's arguably what EON will want to give the series a new life after Craig. They need to create buzz from somewhere.

    You don't think a new Bond film with a brand new Bond actor will be enough to do that? It's worked for them up to this point.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited March 11 Posts: 735
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Feyador wrote: »
    I don't think EON's ever really had a director at their level of critical acclaim and personalized cinema before. I suppose Danny Boyle can be argued as such, but look how that turned out. It would instantly become a "Denis Villeneuve [or Christopher Nolan] James Bond film," arguably becoming as much about the director as the James Bond character.
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Feyador wrote: »
    I don't think EON's ever really had a director at their level of critical acclaim and personalized cinema before. I suppose Danny Boyle can be argued as such, but look how that turned out. It would instantly become a "Denis Villeneuve [or Christopher Nolan] James Bond film," arguably becoming as much about the director as the James Bond character.

    But that's arguably what EON will want to give the series a new life after Craig. They need to create buzz from somewhere.

    Yes, but ... would they want to risk that overshadowing the introduction of a new actor? Might be risky ....
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Colonel_Venus wrote: »
    I never understood the “director X is expensive! EON cannot afford them!” argument. Bond movies are among the highest budget movies. EON can afford any director.

    They can but... do they want?

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