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Batman and Supergirl were both the best things about The Flash. It’s a shame that neither Keaton or Calle aren’t going to reprise their roles (for now). In retrospect, it’s impossible for me to watch Ezra Miller in anything now. They need to be institutionalized. Not since Woody Allen or Charlie Sheen have I had this problem. That baby scene at the beginning of the movie should have been cut. It was also lazy to bring back Zod. It should have been a Flash villain. As for Andy Muschietti directing Batman Brave and the Bold, I could go either way. It is time for the Bat-family get some cinematic work done, as well as some new villains. Talia needs a more thought out storyline, and with Damian Wayne being in the movie, this should happen.
💯 @MaxCasino . The only reason I saw The Flash was to see Keaton, and then I was pleasantly surprised by Supergirl. I thought she was intense, genuinely hurt/damaged (physically and emotionally), and she made one helluva superhero. I don’t think I have seen Calle in anything before, or since, but I was mightily impressed by her.
And I did find the idea that Zod as the villain a strange choice…
htf-graph
(clever-twist-in-that-episode.....not-a-usual-caper)
I want this.
Zack Snyder is just as much to blame for the DCEU failing as much as the WB executives. He held back on a lot of things, just to prove his style.
But then again Snyder’s not the smartest filmmaker, and for someone who seems to be quite that big a comic fan, I’ve never gotten the impression he understands Batman as a character. And yeah, despite Batman’s flaws, the no killing thing is pretty important (Even Burton’s Batman, cool as it is, feels a bit hollow/makes Batman less interesting when he simply swears to kill Joker and… well, does it).
Of course with reboots etc we are still getting the joker more then i want (i dont care if Crazy quilt is the main villain of the batman part 2 i dont want the Joker)
In some ways in looking at the comic book movie world I am thankful for Mclory because honestly it forced the writers and directors to be creative and not constantly rely on Blofeld… as someone who was i believe a producer on Highlander the series (as to why after 5 episodes they killed Kalas one of the best and most complex villains in the highlander universe) “ the villain can only escape justice so many times before your hero starts to look like a real idiot”
The "problem" with Joker is that, if done right, he's hard to beat. Example: Plenty of colorful villains in TAS, yet Joker takes the stage during the second half of MOTP. And he's absolutely perfect in that film. Hamill's performance is almost legendary. I love Mad Hatter, Mr. Freeze, Clay-Face, ... but Joker is just that step above for many people.
It makes sense, too, that filmmakers eventually return to Joker. He's the big one, best known to wider audiences. Of course, if they never show other villains, it's hard for those audiences to catch up with other cool villains. But I can imagine that it's hard to commit to a new Batman project and not eventually feel the need to dig up Joker.
Not killing IS what makes the Batman different. If you want a character that kills, 007 is a great alternative.
And during his first year of existence Batman killed multiple times yet was still recognizably Batman--and arguably closer in tone and spirit to the modern Batman than the kid-friendly, no-killing character he became after 1940. One profound difference between Batman and 007 is that one spent three decades as kiddie fare while the other was meant from the start for adults.
I agree. Lex Luthor and General Zod are arguably why Superman is unpopular in cinema. Penguin is getting close to Joker in terms of overuse.
This was awesome.
Yes it was.
Keaton does deserve to comeback as Batman in something better than The Flash. Too bad Batgirl won’t be released.
I just hope George Clooney doesn’t say anything. He’s too predictable.
I was worried he'd walk on stage, punch Arnold in the face and scream something about not talking about his acting.
What? Too soon?
I’d see George Clooney doing that before Keaton. George never shuts up about being Batman. You’d think The Flash would bring closure him.
I do too. He really does look and sound the part. Fine, Batman & Robin was too outlandish and too playful, but Clooney's performance was cool.
He does deserve a third chance at playing Batman. If TDKR does get made, I would still take Keaton over Clooney. Clooney is a bit one note as an actor for me. Also, seems like he’d still joke about B & R more than he should.
Yeah, Clooney has joked about B & R too many times.
Agreed.
I've sincerely enjoyed Clooney only once: OUT OF SIGHT.
Otherwise I find him one note, and his head always shakes like he has Parkinson's (I'm not being facetious or purposefully disrespectful, but in most films I want to grab his head and hold it still (same with the grin that often rises for no reason).
I'd give both my my pinkie fingers to see Keaton given an old-man Batman standalone....
Not my favourite actor, but I can see why he’s had the career he’s had. He’s just one of those actors who personifies a ‘movie star’, I guess in a similar way that someone like Cary Grant did back in his day.