Behind the scenes Bond - various

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Ah cool- I do think that collapsing bridge is a really lovely model shot; it looks fantastic.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited September 2023 Posts: 559
    Pretty sure that second one is from the miniseries Framed (1992).
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    Pretty sure that second one is from the miniseries Framed (1992).

    I have to admit I wasn't 100% sure on that one, so my bad.
    Sorry.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited September 2023 Posts: 559
    Benny wrote: »
    Pretty sure that second one is from the miniseries Framed (1992).

    I have to admit I wasn't 100% sure on that one, so my bad.
    Sorry.

    Don't be! Easy mistake to make. I've just seen too many Dalton films.
  • any pictures to explain how Felix is so chipper at the end of the film considering his wife has been raped and murdered and hes been mauled by a great white?
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited September 2023 Posts: 559
    any pictures to explain how Felix is so chipper at the end of the film considering his wife has been raped and murdered and hes been mauled by a great white?

    I once read that the phone call between Bond and Felix was originally longer and Della was mentioned. Could just be rumour, but I definitely remember reading that. May have been part of a workprint.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    any pictures to explain how Felix is so chipper at the end of the film considering his wife has been raped and murdered and hes been mauled by a great white?

    Massive IV of morphine just out of shot, presumably.
  • mtm wrote: »
    any pictures to explain how Felix is so chipper at the end of the film considering his wife has been raped and murdered and hes been mauled by a great white?

    Massive IV of morphine just out of shot, presumably.

    emotional arcs werent really a thing in 80s Bond were they..Bond took Dellas death worse than Felix mind
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    any pictures to explain how Felix is so chipper at the end of the film considering his wife has been raped and murdered and hes been mauled by a great white?

    Massive IV of morphine just out of shot, presumably.

    emotional arcs werent really a thing in 80s Bond were they..Bond took Dellas death worse than Felix mind

    He sort of did... and then never mentioned her again! :D It's a bit of an odd film really: just kill Felix, writers!

    Has any Bond actor looked more uncomfortable in the 'with the girls' shots? He looks like he actively hates Caroline Bliss there :D
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    mtm wrote: »
    any pictures to explain how Felix is so chipper at the end of the film considering his wife has been raped and murdered and hes been mauled by a great white?

    Massive IV of morphine just out of shot, presumably.

    My Dad had an extensive operation some years back, and his pain meds made him the happiest guy on the planet.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I regret having never gotten a third Bond film with Tim. He definitely looked the part in '91 (minus the mustache.)

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think he's also much better in that film too: he's embraced his inner cheese a bit more and is way more charismatic than he was as Bond in my opinion. Maybe it was the direction.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I regret having never gotten a third Bond film with Tim. He definitely looked the part in '91 (minus the mustache.)

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    He turned into a fascist....
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    chrisisall wrote: »
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    Benny wrote: »
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    Darth Dimi wakes up.
    Darth Dimi checks the forum.
    Darth Dimi sees pictures of Talisa Soto.
    Darth Dimi smiles.

    When she walked into my pre-pandemic store I was truly starstruck. All dressed down, not much makeup (clearly not wanting attention), still so amazing. I used restraint. She was 10 feet from me...

    Good thing that you used restraint, otherwise she would've had to use a restraining order.

    She's not small. She could protect herself. See: Mortal Kombat.

    She acquitted herself admirably for someone who was 10,000 years old.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    God Talisa Soto was absolutely gorgeous in 1989. Everyone looks great in this film's behind the scenes, but she just looks otherworldly.
    Timothy looks great, but I do wish they would have had Dalton wear his fringe down, like he did at the end of the film, that haircut in the Casino really doesn't do him any favours.
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    Did anyone else think that this sequence needed just an extra couple of seconds of Sanchez actually realising that Bond was avenging Felix and Della? It's like Bond says "don't you want to know why?" and shows him the lighter (held in both hands, if you look carefully!), but Sanchez has no real time to take it in before he's on fire. I'd have liked just a few seconds of Franz realising why Bond bought his empire down. In a way, it denied the audience the satisfaction of Bond's revenge being complete.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Did anyone else think that this sequence needed just an extra couple of seconds of Sanchez actually realising that Bond was avenging Felix and Della? It's like Bond says "don't you want to know why?" and shows him the lighter (held in both hands, if you look carefully!), but Sanchez has no real time to take it in before he's on fire. I'd have liked just a few seconds of Franz realising why Bond bought his empire down. In a way, it denied the audience the satisfaction of Bond's revenge being complete.

    I think there's a clear look of "oh damn!" on his face, but indeed, a few more seconds wouldn't have hurt.
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    Yea, the 'oh damn' could have been him recognising that Bond had a lighter, and he was doused in gasoline.
    I'd like to see the UK cinema cut of this movie again actually, because the DVD I have has longer scenes in than I remember in the cinema. I think the Sanchez death scene was shorter in the cinema.
    There were quite a lot of cuts to LTK as I remember.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Yea, the 'oh damn' could have been him recognising that Bond had a lighter, and he was doused in gasoline.
    I'd like to see the UK cinema cut of this movie again actually, because the DVD I have has longer scenes in than I remember in the cinema. I think the Sanchez death scene was shorter in the cinema.
    There were quite a lot of cuts to LTK as I remember.

    There were. I think the Bluray has many of those as a bonus feature.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited September 2023 Posts: 5,949
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    God Talisa Soto was absolutely gorgeous in 1989. Everyone looks great in this film's behind the scenes, but she just looks otherworldly.
    Timothy looks great, but I do wish they would have had Dalton wear his fringe down, like he did at the end of the film, that haircut in the Casino really doesn't do him any favours.

    To be fair, it was the '80s and no one's hair has aged well from that era. Look at Bliss' blowout above.
    Yea, the 'oh damn' could have been him recognising that Bond had a lighter, and he was doused in gasoline.
    I'd like to see the UK cinema cut of this movie again actually, because the DVD I have has longer scenes in than I remember in the cinema. I think the Sanchez death scene was shorter in the cinema.
    There were quite a lot of cuts to LTK as I remember.

    I'm interested in why LTK's violence caused such an uproar in the UK. (In the US, we had already dealt with this with Temple of Doom and Gremlins in 1984, which led to the PG-13 rating.)

    Was the backlash to the violence because Bond is such a cultural icon in the UK? Or was it just the times (Thatcherism?)? I don't see the violence in LTK as any worse than, say, Stromberg being shot or Wint (or was it Kidd?) being lit on fire. But that was the '70s.
  • edited September 2023 Posts: 1,001
    I think LTK was generally more gory than other Bonds. The guy impaled on the forklift and Krest's head exploding are two bits that spring to mind. I think these scenes were more graphic than what went before.

    Off the top of my head, the cuts I remember were. .

    Sanchez using 'the corrector' at the start
    Heller impaled on forklift
    Krest's exploding head
    The drug-grinder thing
    Sanchez Guy Faulks impression

    All of these seemed longer and more graphic when I saw LTK on DVD for the first time.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I don't recall backlash to the film over the violence. I do recall there being much made of the danger being back. That this was a more "adult" film. Cubby had marketed and moved Bond into a family market. The danger dialed back, the sex dialed back a bit. The films of the 70's and 80's you could have a whole family attend. LTK changed all that.
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    Also the screams of Lupe's lover being killed off camera were dubbed out in the theatrical release if I remember correctly.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2023 Posts: 14,923
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    Did anyone else think that this sequence needed just an extra couple of seconds of Sanchez actually realising that Bond was avenging Felix and Della? It's like Bond says "don't you want to know why?" and shows him the lighter (held in both hands, if you look carefully!), but Sanchez has no real time to take it in before he's on fire. I'd have liked just a few seconds of Franz realising why Bond bought his empire down. In a way, it denied the audience the satisfaction of Bond's revenge being complete.

    Yes, agreed. I'm not even very convinced that Sanchez even remembered Felix or knew what was written on the lighter (the scrolly engraving isn't very easy to read! :D ) - if anything his shocked reaction seems to be more down to the realisation the lighter is about to kill him than it is what's written on it.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    As with the film Licence To Kill, there was a hiatus on the Bond series.
    So, this thread will have a brief hiatus. (Had a very busy week at work and haven't had a chance to upload and GoldenEye images just yet.)
    Unlike the break between LTK and GE, this one wont be long.

    JAMES BOND WILL RETURN

  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    @Benny i hope you don't mind if i start posting these here:
    Bond N°17: Goldeneye (1995)
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  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’d rather wait if you don’t mind @TheSkyfallen06
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