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The action was top notch as usual, but I felt the film flagging a little at times. I pray that Part 2 will have a leaner runtime.
After 1 viewing...
1. Mission Impossible: Fallout
2. Mission Impossible
3. Mission Impossible 3
4. Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol
5. Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning (1)
6. Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation
7. Mission Impossible 2
There might be some good one liners but the chummy dialogue between Hunt and Luther is awful. And a lot of it makes no sense. Hunt was so impressed with his student because she reminded him of life before missions so he recommended her to go on missions immediately?
And Hoffman's "kill her in front of you/you in front of her" thing sounds like an amateur trying to write threatening dialogue. Why is one threat worse than the other?
I felt the same. Isn't it just the same basic plot as MI:GP,
I feel like:
I still love how Hunt could've ended up killing Gabriel had Paris spoken to him just a few minutes prior to their fight atop the train. If only!
I've enjoyed reading his stuff before, but I think he misses the point there a bit. The Tom-on-a-rope scene is obviously fantastic, but he's saying that only set pieces which the whole movie revolves around, with stakes, work? So that's all Bond PTSes out the window for starters!
He also completely ignores the fantastic opera set piece from Rogue Nation. Which isn't as simple and elegant as the CIA heist, sure, but it's a masterclass in building suspense and tension, culminating in a wonderful and satisfyingly intelligent climax.
I feel there's a touch of snobbishness there about action scenes too, so I'd have to disagree with him. Plus it's a bit worrying that he misremembers the scene he's praising to the extent he thinks a character was present who wasn't there at all! :)
I can see why the films blended together for you, but then I imagine that's true for most people who have seen the recent Bond movies but aren't massive fans like us. Was Spectre the one with the tube train coming through the roof...? What's the one where he goes to Italy and drives an Aston Martin...? :D
Bond fans, by their nature, know exactly which film is which. Even casual fans may not. Thankfully, as a fan of both, I can distinctly remember the films from each as clear as day. It's a great way to be! :)
And good catch on his mistaking a character that’s not in the scene (that he’s using as an example!!!), but the over all idea that this set piece does indeed stick in most people’s memories (generally, 😂), is fascinating and there’s a reason for it.
I do remember bits and pieces from the opera scene (couldn’t tell you from which film, though, which does really grate), but not with the clarity of that simple heist in the first film!
And I hear you and I agree with you about why casual viewers of any series will have this blending-of-films effect. What bothers me is, I usually absorb films and I, usually, have the uncanny ability to recall them (even films I dislike— including M:I 2); my amnesia has specifically been with these last three films, and I truly have no idea why. I thought this article was perhaps touching on some reasons…
It's worth the trip for the stunts and spectacle alone. I can't think of anything I saw in Indy 5 that warranted going to the cinema like, say, the finale in this one does. It is getting ridiculously pricy though and easier to avoid theaters when I know most of it is going to be online or streaming in a month or two anyway.
The action is very good. The car chase is the perfect entertainment and the last action scene shines because they managed to do something I've never seen before.
Some mentioned that Benji is a bit annoying because he messes up too much. Where did he fail here? I didn't feel this way at all and liked him as much as always.
Why isn't Ethan allowed to kiss any woman in this film? Okay, Grace is maybe too young. But Ilsa was totally ready for him in Venice, wasn't she? 🙃This is the big plus for Bond: He knows how to seduce women.
Why did we need this backstory where Gabriel killed a woman Hunt cared about? It isn't explained at all.
DR1 is different tho.
It’s a M:I film where the action is perfectly tied and justified by the thematic foundations of the movie.
Themes within a M:I flick? What? Yup.
From this standpoint it is the perfect follow up to the last three Bond: a crepuscular, melancholic tale about a wounded world that is running like a train towards uncertain territories where no one knows anymore what is real and what is worth. A metaphor for Hollywood itself and a reminder of the value of tradition.
Mod Edit - Edited to contain potential spoiler.
backstory/retcon development and I do feel massively disappointed after two and half films of build up for Ethan and Ilsa being together, they drop the ball like this, plus they replace her too quickly. Her absence needed to be felt much more
Please don't read click on the spoilers if you haven't seen the film, the twists and turns are so exciting when you know nothing about the film
I certainly agree with you on that @Jordo007
We'll see. But Ethan in particular didn't show enough emotion for someone he's been through that much with. He showed more emotion when Lindsey Farris died in MI:3.
I'd give the film an 8 out of 10 right now after first viewing.
The action is phenomenal, there's great tension in this one too. I do think there were a few head scratching plot points, that'll probably make sense upon multiple viewings and at times the lighter tone does hamstring certain moments
Unfortunately for me this does feel like part 1 of 2 rather than it's own complete film, but that's to be expected. In some scenes it felt purposely vague to reveal more in the next film
Correct. Nothing missing.
Absolutely gorgeous. Wish she was in a Bond film.
Also how many times has "the world's changing" been used in dialogue in major blockbusters over the past five years? [Spolier]
The alleyway fight was fantastic though, my girlfriend clawed my arm watching it 😅 it was so tense, it reminded me of QOS a bit
I think it would've always been much better if they kept it platonic if Ethan was going to find himself constantly at odds with her agenda.
But also the ally-or-foe dilemma was at some point gonna get old with Ilsa, so they really had to make up their minds if she was gonna be 100% in or not.
I'm also not a big fan of that retcon backstory for Ethan, it reeks of the Fast and Furious movies where they introduce a new lost family member for Vin Diesel every couple of movies.
Say what you want about Tom Cruise but he knows how to do action