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  • MI:2 being the worst film in the franchise (for me at least) just goes to show the high standard these films have maintained over the years.

    Very true
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MI:2 being the worst film in the franchise (for me at least) just goes to show the high standard these films have maintained over the years.

    Very true

    At least MI:2 doesn’t have Ethan go on the run from the IMF. All the other MI movies have been guilty of that.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    MI:2 being the worst film in the franchise (for me at least) just goes to show the high standard these films have maintained over the years.

    Very true

    At least MI:2 doesn’t have Ethan go on the run from the IMF. All the other MI movies have been guilty of that.

    It's a very tiresome aspect of most of the series, I'll admit, much like how the Fast & Furious series twists its villains, most of which do some really vile and illegal acts, into just another close family member by the end of each respective movie.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    MI2 was a sign of the times such as the Limp Bizkit take on theme. I like it as dumb popcorn action flick but not as an MI movie
  • MI2 was a sign of the times such as the Limp Bizkit take on theme. I like it as dumb popcorn action flick but not as an MI movie

    I quite agree Mr. @Last_Rat_Standing
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    I watched mission impossible 3 and they have a new director each time is the director the same person or character recast or just new characters that get appointed to director? It seems strange that imf is a American agency but they have agents not from the US.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Spoiler alert *
    Its fictitious
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I watched mission impossible 3 and they have a new director each time is the director the same person or character recast or just new characters that get appointed to director? It seems strange that imf is a American agency but they have agents not from the US.

    Yes it's quite funny when Ethan's boss is a Welshman in one of them :)
    It might have been nice if the IMF had been a bit more of an international agency rather than depicted as a US one.
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 118
    mtm wrote: »
    I watched mission impossible 3 and they have a new director each time is the director the same person or character recast or just new characters that get appointed to director? It seems strange that imf is a American agency but they have agents not from the US.

    Yes it's quite funny when Ethan's boss is a Welshman in one of them :)
    It might have been nice if the IMF had been a bit more of an international agency rather than depicted as a US one.

    Oh ok so it's a new character everything? Yah so they are US based but hire people from different countries? @mtm
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Credit were it's due though, the MI team never repeats themselves. I like the fact that all the films are a bit different, sometimes I want to turn my brain off and watch MI2.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 15,623
    mtm wrote: »
    I watched mission impossible 3 and they have a new director each time is the director the same person or character recast or just new characters that get appointed to director? It seems strange that imf is a American agency but they have agents not from the US.

    Yes it's quite funny when Ethan's boss is a Welshman in one of them :)
    It might have been nice if the IMF had been a bit more of an international agency rather than depicted as a US one.

    Oh ok so it's a new character everything? Yah so they are US based but hire people from different countries? @mtm

    Yes it's a new character every time. I think Ethan has had five different bosses so far that I can think of! Two of them have even died on the job.
    And yes it does seem weird they have Aussie and Brits working for them. I guess the CIA probably does, but it still seems strange. If IMF had been a bit more of a UN sort of operation it might make it feel a bit more distinct from other spy shows; although I suppose UNCLE was like that, and they couldn't have "the President will disavow any knowledge of your actions"!
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Credit were it's due though, the MI team never repeats themselves.

    Well, yes and no. Which film am I describing here? Ethan must steal something dangerous in an elaborate heist because he needs it in order to trap the baddie, even though there's a huge risk associated with that thing being out in the open. His adversary is a Government agent gone rogue :)
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited March 2023 Posts: 2,618
    mtm wrote: »
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Credit were it's due though, the MI team never repeats themselves.

    Well, yes and no. Which film am I describing here? Ethan must steal something dangerous in an elaborate heist because he needs it in order to trap the baddie, even though there's a huge risk associated with that thing being out in the open. His adversary is a Government agent gone rogue :)

    😅 Touché my friend
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    MI2 was a sign of the times such as the Limp Bizkit take on theme. I like it as dumb popcorn action flick but not as an MI movie

    That's always been my take on M:I-2 as well. It never feels like a Mission: Impossible movie. If it were just a generic standalone Cruise action movie with a really cheesy title like "Termination Vendetta" or "Operation Firewall," I'd probably like it a lot more.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    MI2 was a sign of the times such as the Limp Bizkit take on theme. I like it as dumb popcorn action flick but not as an MI movie

    That's always been my take on M:I-2 as well. It never feels like a Mission: Impossible movie. If it were just a generic standalone Cruise action movie with a really cheesy title like "Termination Vendetta" or "Operation Firewall," I'd probably like it a lot more.

    THE DEVIL'S DOVES
  • Posts: 118
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I watched mission impossible 3 and they have a new director each time is the director the same person or character recast or just new characters that get appointed to director? It seems strange that imf is a American agency but they have agents not from the US.

    Yes it's quite funny when Ethan's boss is a Welshman in one of them :)
    It might have been nice if the IMF had been a bit more of an international agency rather than depicted as a US one.

    Oh ok so it's a new character everything? Yah so they are US based but hire people from different countries? @mtm

    Yes it's a new character every time. I think Ethan has had five different bosses so far that I can think of! Two of them have even died on the job.
    And yes it does seem weird they have Aussie and Brits working for them. I guess the CIA probably does, but it still seems strange. If IMF had been a bit more of a UN sort of operation it might make it feel a bit more distinct from other spy shows; although I suppose UNCLE was like that, and they couldn't have "the President will disavow any knowledge of your actions"!
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Credit were it's due though, the MI team never repeats themselves.

    Well, yes and no. Which film am I describing here? Ethan must steal something dangerous in an elaborate heist because he needs it in order to trap the baddie, even though there's a huge risk associated with that thing being out in the open. His adversary is a Government agent gone rogue :)

    OK interesting because the director in the first one comes back for dead reckoning.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes that is fun. The man who worked in the silent room is back too.
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    MI2 was a sign of the times such as the Limp Bizkit take on theme. I like it as dumb popcorn action flick but not as an MI movie

    That's always been my take on M:I-2 as well. It never feels like a Mission: Impossible movie. If it were just a generic standalone Cruise action movie with a really cheesy title like "Termination Vendetta" or "Operation Firewall," I'd probably like it a lot more.

    THE DEVIL'S DOVES

    Okay, this officially just made my day. I almost spit out my coffee. Thank you!
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I watched 3 last night. It definitely moved up in my rankings. Now I can see how the whole Ethan/Julia relationship waters it down a little and yes, the helicopter chase through the windmills is a little bland.

    However, the rest of it works for me. The Vatican infiltration is a very fun and well done sequence and the Chesapeake bridge scene is amazing as well as the car chase in Shanghai with only seconds to spare. What it does is add an added layer of personal stakes to the film having Julia unknowingly captured and a personal vendetta against Ethan from Davien being pissed off that he interrupted his plans.
    Speaking of which, Hoffman is hands down the best villian in the series and that's coming from someone who likes Solomon Lane ad well. The fact that he could be so calm and then promptly freaked out inside while being hung out of a plane and then truly terrifying while Ethan is tied to a chair makes him a very compelling and psychotic villian. I would probably put it third in the franchise ranks behind GP and RN and serves as a nice bridge for the last 3 films.

    I still wanted to know what the Rabbits Foot was and what harm it could have done.
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 118
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes that is fun. The man who worked in the silent room is back too.

    @mtm Who's that what's his name?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 15,623
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes that is fun. The man who worked in the silent room is back too.

    @mtm Who's that what's his name?

    The character is William Donloe

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I hope these callbacks are done well. MI:1 was released 27 years ago, will most audiences recognise they characters?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I do find it surprising as MacQuarrie has previously said that he has tried to squeeze in legacy characters to his previous MI films but the stories didn't accept them, so he wrote them out. He's also said many times that fan service is not worth chasing either, as he tried it in Jack Reacher and fans complained anyway.
    He also famously writes the scripts as he's going, so to make two films with a continuing story is a surprising move as well as it doesn't seem to fit his usual way of doing things. He does seem to have changed his approach for these ones.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    I do find it surprising as MacQuarrie has previously said that he has tried to squeeze in legacy characters to his previous MI films but the stories didn't accept them, so he wrote them out. He's also said many times that fan service is not worth chasing either, as he tried it in Jack Reacher and fans complained anyway.
    He also famously writes the scripts as he's going, so to make two films with a continuing story is a surprising move as well as it doesn't seem to fit his usual way of doing things. He does seem to have changed his approach for these ones.

    Well apparently he has a larger, longer, story to tell, and one that suits, or is even dependent on certain legacy characters.

    This really does feel like a grand finale for Ethan Hunt’s story.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    I liked the return of Julia in Fallout as well as the White Widow being the daughter of Max the arms dealer. He's done well so far in creating storylines and characters that reference the previous films.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Even the Max thing was added in post production: when she gives her speech in the club she was actually supposed to be singing. You can see members of the audience bopping along as she just talks on stage.
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    Hoffman is hands down the best villian in the series
    Yes he is indeed. III is Cruise in his prime.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited April 2023 Posts: 1,644
    Sean Harris' Solomon Lane in Rogue Nation is quite chilling. I really bought his villainy.
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    Sean Harris' Solomon Lane in Rogue Nation is quite chilling. I really bought his villainy.

    100% right. He's my favourite bad guy from Mission: Impossible. I hope that maybe he'll return even for a small cameo in MI7.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited April 2023 Posts: 4,488
    https://www.darkhorizons.com/scorseses-moon-is-nearly-four-hours/
    Paramount’s Global President Bob Bakish indicated earlier this month that “Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One” is coming in long, suggesting it will be longer than the 148-minute runtime of “Mission: Impossible – Fallout”.

    NTTD is 163-164 munutes, so wil it be longer then that.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited April 2023 Posts: 15,696
    100 days remaining before Mission: Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One starts its world-wide theatrical release.
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