Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I must admit I wouldn't be surprised if Bond #7 will be somewhat of a departure from the traditional Bonds we've known over the years.

    I wish I was more adaptable with Bond, but I resented the Gardner novels when he promoted Bond to Captain Bond. It was a minor plot point, but it felt wrong him not being Commander Bond
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I never minded the promotion, the issue was that it never sounded as cool :D
  • Sorry for asking, I may have lost the track in the latest days, but what exactly does actually indicate that the ATJ rumors are more than just the usual rumors?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited January 2023 Posts: 4,053
    I wonder if RK’s comments in general mean he’s coming back as Tanner. I hope not, or at least write the character better. He’s fairly one note in DC’s films. Plus, honestly I think the writers and director will be decided first. We have a feeling P & W are back and Cary isn’t coming back.
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Sorry for asking, I may have lost the track in the latest days, but what exactly does actually indicate that the ATJ rumors are more than just the usual rumors?

    They are rumours that he met with Babs and it went well. A certain few others (some on here) who appear to have a bit more informed internal knowledge of EON think he is now looking likely as the main candidate.

    Other than that, it's just rumours still.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited January 2023 Posts: 2,483
    mtm wrote: »
    I never minded the promotion, the issue was that it never sounded as cool :D

    Haha see that was my issue as well mate. Captain Bond just doesn't sound cool
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Sorry lads, these points seem solid:

    https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1718258/Next-James-Bond-Aaron-Taylor-Johnson-Rory-Kinnear

    I do like Mescal, though not sure for Bond... Really looking forward to Gladiator II though.

    What are you sorry for? There is nothing in that article which makes this conclusive either way.

    I doubt Rory Kinnear will know who the next candidate is for Bond. He's only an actor, not Bab's closest ally. And secondly, even if the rumours were true that ATJ is the next Bond, do you expect Rory to blurt this out if he knew? He would have no choice but to dispel any rumours until an announcement is made by EON.

    If he did anything else, I doubt he'd be allowed near the set of a Bond film ever again.

    To those who truly stepped on the hype train early, obv.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Sorry for asking, I may have lost the track in the latest days, but what exactly does actually indicate that the ATJ rumors are more than just the usual rumors?

    They are rumours that he met with Babs and it went well. A certain few others (some on here) who appear to have a bit more informed internal knowledge of EON think he is now looking likely as the main candidate.

    Other than that, it's just rumours still.

    Yes, and by default, everything remains a rumour until we receive official statements from EON. I love to speculate, dream and discuss, but I treat no "news" as fact until confirmed.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.
  • mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    Do you know when Aidan’s Fifteen Love is being released?
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited January 2023 Posts: 5,834
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.
    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.
    But it's not enough to completely disregard any possibilities and we can still get excited and jump on the "hype train" about the fact that we now know for sure that meetings have been had and we have a name of someone who they're interested in.

    An actor who's worked with EON hypothesising on how the casting process could turn out for that someone doesn't change anything. Realistically, I'm sure Kinnear knows as much as we do in terms of what Barbara and Michael or anyone else is thinking.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.
    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.
    But it's not enough to completely disregard any possibilities and we can still get excited and jump on the "hype train" about the fact that we now know for sure that meetings have been had and we have a name of someone who they're interested in.

    An actor who's worked with EON hypothesising on how the casting process could turn out for that someone doesn't change anything. Realistically, I'm sure Kinnear knows as much as we do in terms of what Barbara and Michael or anyone else is thinking.

    It is not about what he knows, it is about his insight as a professional and someone who has been closer to Barbara and Michael than we can ever dream of on mi6comm.

    @ByRoyalDecree I reckon mid 2023.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I must say I'm grateful for ATJ's James Bond rumour. I thought we won't have anything to discuss for a very long while....I won't be unhappy if ATJ's James Bond rumour turns out to be true.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2023 Posts: 14,861
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it. It's something you don't have to be an insider to know or not know, because it's all public knowledge.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.
    I must say I'm grateful for ATJ's James Bond rumour. I thought we won't have anything to discuss for a very long while....I won't be unhappy if ATJ's James Bond rumour turns out to be true.

    He doesn't massively excite me and I'm not 100% convinced by him, but he's far from the worst option we've had in this thread. I could certainly be interested in a film starring him.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited January 2023 Posts: 1,318
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.

    Do you understand the definition of tends? You're again making things up.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited January 2023 Posts: 5,834
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.
    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.
    But it's not enough to completely disregard any possibilities and we can still get excited and jump on the "hype train" about the fact that we now know for sure that meetings have been had and we have a name of someone who they're interested in.

    An actor who's worked with EON hypothesising on how the casting process could turn out for that someone doesn't change anything. Realistically, I'm sure Kinnear knows as much as we do in terms of what Barbara and Michael or anyone else is thinking.
    It is not about what he knows, it is about his insight as a professional and someone who has been closer to Barbara and Michael.
    Yes but we're talking about a process that Kinnear would never have been around. He wasn't cast until Quantum. I don't think any amount of interaction with Barbara and Michael would have let him know who they would pick or who they wouldn't. I imagine Barbara would have never even brought it up to anyone but Michael behind closed doors. Barbara was all about Craig until the very end.

    Plus his comments aren't even about them it's more about whose presented as a frontrunner by the press I'd say, and the industry and how it's reported has changed so much since 2005, it's more likely for us to get this kind of information to the point that I would not be surprised at all if the name gets out before EON even want it to, and maybe it has already?

    Again, I think Kinnear's comments are realistic and make a lot of sense, but they don't rule out Taylor-Johnson whatsoever and I'm not just saying that because it's a casting I'd be quite happy with.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2023 Posts: 14,861
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.

    Do you understand the definition of tends? You're again making things up.

    'tends'? As in 'actors tend to have to think of anything on the spot to say to One Show presenters'? As in 'the frontrunner tends to get the part: see Pierce Brosnan (twice); Roger Moore'?

    What am I making up exactly?
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    And at this point we all take a deep breath and relax!
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited January 2023 Posts: 1,318
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.

    Do you understand the definition of tends? You're again making things up.

    'tends'? As in 'actors tend to have to think of anything on the spot to say to One Show presenters'?

    What am I making up exactly?

    The No Time To Die star told The One Show: “I always feel slightly bad for the people who are being highlighted because that never tends to be them. They are very good at keeping the real person secret. I’d be interested to see who does take over, obviously, but it tends not to be the frontrunner, that’s historically [how it has been].”

    @Denbigh He never ruled him out though, you guys are going in too hard on this one. The man said tends and he's right, historically speaking.

    Anyway, next. Onto the next "frontrunner". We have a long time to go, I reckon.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited January 2023 Posts: 5,834
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.

    Do you understand the definition of tends? You're again making things up.

    'tends'? As in 'actors tend to have to think of anything on the spot to say to One Show presenters'?

    What am I making up exactly?
    @Denbigh He never ruled him out though, you guys are going in too hard on this one. The man said tends and he's right, historically speaking.
    I’m not saying Kinnear is ruling him out. I was just explaining why I feel his comments don’t as I expect some people may think they do.
  • edited January 2023 Posts: 1,215
    Kinnear's point is fair, though I'd say the times have changed quite a bit since Daniel was announced as Bond and while he's right about the "frontrunners" not getting the gig, I think it's moreso the Hardys and Elbas of the world. ATJ wasn't really considered a frontrunner until news of his meeting with the producers and the impression he made on them broke. When the next Bond is cast, I don't think the official announcement will be the first we hear of it.

    Given the way casting news for big budget franchises is shared and distributed these days, I'm sure we'll hear his name associated with rumours and frontrunners/betting favourites much like we have with ATJ, before the official announcement is made.
  • They are rumours that he met with Babs and it went well. A certain few others (some on here) who appear to have a bit more informed internal knowledge of EON think he is now looking likely as the main candidate.

    Other than that, it's just rumours still.

    Thank you for the answer!
    Hopefully we will hear some official news this year, even though I doubt it.

    Also, shouldn't they hire a director first, before they choose an actor? If I remember correctly, Campbell was hired long before Craig was cast?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 2023 Posts: 14,861
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.

    Do you understand the definition of tends? You're again making things up.

    'tends'? As in 'actors tend to have to think of anything on the spot to say to One Show presenters'?

    What am I making up exactly?

    The No Time To Die star told The One Show: “I always feel slightly bad for the people who are being highlighted because that never tends to be them. They are very good at keeping the real person secret. I’d be interested to see who does take over, obviously, but it tends not to be the frontrunner, that’s historically [how it has been].”

    @Denbigh He never ruled him out though, you guys are going in too hard on this one. The man said tends and he's right, historically speaking.

    He's not though, it's been the obvious choice quite a few times. It just wasn't last time, that's all. Time before that: the obvious choice everyone knew it would be.
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Also, shouldn't they hire a director first, before they choose an actor? If I remember correctly, Campbell was hired long before Craig was cast?

    Yeah, a lot of us think the same. Even if it's James Bond, it is this new director's next film and you'd think they'd be choosing the cast.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited January 2023 Posts: 1,420
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    As jetset says, the article is meaningless.

    It is not, as he raises good points, tbf.

    As already pointed out; he doesn't. No offence to him, but it's simply not true that the frontrunner never gets it.
    He has also never been present when a Bond actor was being cast, and is unlikely to be this time.

    What he says changes nothing, it's just something he thought of to say on the spur of the moment because he was on live telly. It's just as likely to be/not be ATJ as it was before.

    Do you understand the definition of tends? You're again making things up.

    'tends'? As in 'actors tend to have to think of anything on the spot to say to One Show presenters'?

    What am I making up exactly?

    The No Time To Die star told The One Show: “I always feel slightly bad for the people who are being highlighted because that never tends to be them. They are very good at keeping the real person secret. I’d be interested to see who does take over, obviously, but it tends not to be the frontrunner, that’s historically [how it has been].”

    @Denbigh He never ruled him out though, you guys are going in too hard on this one. The man said tends and he's right, historically speaking.

    He's not though, it's been the obvious choice quite a few times. It just wasn't last time, that's all. Time before that: the obvious choice everyone knew it would be.
    Kojak007 wrote: »
    Also, shouldn't they hire a director first, before they choose an actor? If I remember correctly, Campbell was hired long before Craig was cast?

    Yeah, a lot of us think the same. Even if it's James Bond, it is this new director's next film and you'd think they'd be choosing the cast.

    Those in-the-know have said it would typically be script-director-actor. @Kojak007
  • I guess Kinnear's point is interesting, but, as @battleshipgreygt said, ATJ is far from being a traditional frontrunner. At least according to mass audiences standards that generally talk more about Hardy, Elba, or Cavill. While some of us mentioned Taylor-Johnson here, it wasn't so much the case outside. Besides that, Kinnear can think whatever he wants, I guess he probably doesn't know anything about Barbara's thoughts.

    Obviously it doesn't mean ATJ will be ultimately chosen and, considering we're early in the casting process, he reminds me in many ways of Sam Neill who, in '86, was tested pretty early in the process, made an impression on Barbara and Michael G. Wilson, but wasn't ultimately chosen because Cubby wasn't totally satisfied and preferred to test other actors. We are again early in the process and, unless Amazon is pressuring Eon, I suppose other actors will meet the producers and may impress Barbara and Michael more than ATJ.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    100& @Herr_Stockmann :)
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Yes, when you break it down, Kinnear was about as neutral and diplomatic as he could be in the circumstances (ie. put on the spot on live tv). As others have said, there's no reason he'd be privy to any discussions and if he's heard anything at all, it's very unlikely to be from BB or MGW directly. Nothing he said suggested that he knows anything more than we do, tbf.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Yes, when you break it down, Kinnear was about as neutral and diplomatic as he could be in the circumstances (ie. put on the spot on live tv). As others have said, there's no reason he'd be privy to any discussions and if he's heard anything at all, it's very unlikely to be from BB or MGW directly. Nothing he said suggested that he knows anything more than we do, tbf.

    The janitor at EON has more actual inside information.
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    My hunch is Kinnear was just rendering his opinion based on how well he knows Barbara and Michael.
    He could very well be done with the series himself as we're most likely looking at a hard reboot.
    I doubt he truly knows exactly what's going on with B26.
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