SKYFALL: Is this the best Bond film?

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    BT3366 wrote: »

    Does anybody else find the action in SF the most underwhelming of Craig's era?
    The PTS was well done. The action in the rest of the movie was just okay. Following the amazing QOS did it no favours, either. It was kind of standard thriller-level action. SP was much better in this regard IMO.

  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited November 2021 Posts: 539
    Agreed. The hand to hand stuff in SF was a big drop off from CR and QOS. I get that Patrice is also an elite killer so Bond's not going to just steamroller him, but so was Slate and that fight was really well done. In Shanghai, ok, he's been shot, he's failed his physical and he's had an irradiated bullet in him for three months, so he's not at the top of his game, but the bit in the casino where Dan's got his fists up in the komodo pit are a bit too 1940s Boy's Own 'who wants to fight me?'
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython The Black Lodge
    edited November 2021 Posts: 5,442
    “Deadly serious”? I don’t think so.

    And the action is SO MUCH BETTER than the nonsense in QOS.
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Agreed. The hand to hand stuff in SF was a big drop off from CR and QOS. I get that Patrice is also an elite killer so Bond's not going to just steamroller him, but so was Slate and that fight was really well done. In Shanghai, ok, he's been shot, he's failed his physical and he's had an irradiated bullet in him for three months, so he's not at the top of his game, but the bit in the casino where Dan's got his fists up in the komodo pit are a bit too 1940s Boy's Own 'who wants to fight me?'
    That actually presents another problem just like in TWINE with Bond's injured shoulder -- by mid-film, he's back to form, his previous problems are conveniently forgotten and it's on with business.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited December 2021 Posts: 539
    Yes. I get that it was the reduced uranium bullet that was causing his problems, not his age, but he recovered a bit too sharpish once he'd dug it out. Guess the lingering side effects were swept aside by the mighty crushing force of CraigBond's T-levels! I do wish they'd kept the footage from the trailer of Bond trying and failing to run for very long in Regents Park - it was an obvious counterpoint to the later shots of him running flat out down the street to M's hearing. The contrast between the two running scenes would've really emphasised that only then was Bond back to his best. The run through the streets moreorless did, anyway, but it would've really underlined it if the earlier scene had survived and it would've stopped it looking like he was totally fine as soon as the shrapnel was out.
  • chrisisall wrote: »
    BT3366 wrote: »

    Does anybody else find the action in SF the most underwhelming of Craig's era?
    The PTS was well done. The action in the rest of the movie was just okay. Following the amazing QOS did it no favours, either. It was kind of standard thriller-level action. SP was much better in this regard IMO.

    Well calling QOS “ amazing “ is a but controversial,but that’s for another thread.

    The PTS was very well done,but Bond getting shot ( Twice! ) towards the end of it was where believability went out the window.Fixing your cuffs while jumping from one train carriage to another may be very “ Bond “ but after you are seriously shot? All that and he manages a knock drag out fight with Patrice right after.And let’s not get started on Bond surviving getting shot by Moneypenny,surviving that massive fall and apparent drowning.

    If after the opening credits they had shown how he had survived,that would be something.But no,we just ignore that and rejoin him after the credits shagging some hottie on a beach.

    There are many other scenes where the film just got too silly for me.I can’t spend all day chatting here about them,but here are some “ highlights “

    The hard drive plot being forgotten about.

    Silvas plan making absolutely no sense ( Good thing Q didn’t plug in that laptop during his interrogation eh? ).

    M quoting a poem to a packed enquiry instead of ordering the building locked down knowing Silva is on the loose.

    Bond taking M to a house in an isolated part of Scotland with no back up gives them “ an advantage “.

    A waste of Berenice Marhlohe as a potentially great Bond girl.

    Bonds plan ending up getting M killed.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython The Black Lodge
    Posts: 5,442
    Really? The hard drive again? When are many of you going to learn that the film isn’t even about the hard drive? It’s just a minor plot device. The real story has always been about Silva coming back to kill M. Why does the hard drive matter so much to some folks?
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 16,985
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    BT3366 wrote: »

    Does anybody else find the action in SF the most underwhelming of Craig's era?
    The PTS was well done. The action in the rest of the movie was just okay. Following the amazing QOS did it no favours, either. It was kind of standard thriller-level action. SP was much better in this regard IMO.

    Well calling QOS “ amazing “ is a but controversial,but that’s for another thread.

    The PTS was very well done,but Bond getting shot ( Twice! ) towards the end of it was where believability went out the window.Fixing your cuffs while jumping from one train carriage to another may be very “ Bond “ but after you are seriously shot? All that and he manages a knock drag out fight with Patrice right after.And let’s not get started on Bond surviving getting shot by Moneypenny,surviving that massive fall and apparent drowning.

    If after the opening credits they had shown how he had survived,that would be something.But no,we just ignore that and rejoin him after the credits shagging some hottie on a beach.

    There are many other scenes where the film just got too silly for me.I can’t spend all day chatting here about them,but here are some “ highlights “

    The hard drive plot being forgotten about.

    Silvas plan making absolutely no sense ( Good thing Q didn’t plug in that laptop during his interrogation eh? ).

    M quoting a poem to a packed enquiry instead of ordering the building locked down knowing Silva is on the loose.

    Bond taking M to a house in an isolated part of Scotland with no back up gives them “ an advantage “.

    A waste of Berenice Marhlohe as a potentially great Bond girl.

    Bonds plan ending up getting M killed.

    I agree with every bit of this, AL.
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